[40k] Re-tuning my Salamanders for V4

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Okay, I still haven't fully grasped the Chapter Traits system, but is this a
good viable army for the new V4 environment?

1850 Salamanders Army

1 Major Disadvantages @ 0 Pts
#Eye to Eye [0]

1 Chapter Traits @ 0 Pts
#Cleanse and Purify [0]
#Never Despair [0]

1 Codicier (HQ) @ 280 Pts
Bolt Pistol (x1); Force Weapon; Furious Charge Skill
#Psychic Hood [0]
Fear of Darkness [5]

4 Command Squad @ [141] Pts
Bolt Pistol & CCWep. (x3); Flamer (x1); Furious Charge Skill

1 Veteran Sergeant @ [63] Pts
Bolt Pistol (x1); Thunder Hammer (x1); Furious Charge Skill

1 Drop Pod @ [30] Pts
Storm Bolter

1 Dreadnought (Elites) @ 153 Pts
Front Armour: 12; Side Armour: 12; Rear Armour: 10; Dread. CC Weapon;
Heavy Flamer; Assault Cannon
Smoke Launchers [3]
Extra Armour [5]

1 Drop Pod @ [30] Pts
Storm Bolter

1 Dreadnought (Elites) @ 148 Pts
Front Armour: 12; Side Armour: 12; Rear Armour: 10; Dread. CC Weapon;
Heavy Flamer; Assault Cannon
Smoke Launchers [3]

1 Drop Pod @ [30] Pts
Storm Bolter

6 Tactical Squad (Troops) @ 205 Pts
Bolter (x4); Meltagun (x1); Meltagun (x1)

1 Veteran Sergeant @ [60] Pts
Bolt Pistol (x1); Thunder Hammer (x1)

1 Drop Pod @ [30] Pts
Storm Bolter

6 Tactical Squad (Troops) @ 205 Pts
Bolter (x4); Meltagun (x1); Meltagun (x1)

1 Veteran Sergeant @ [60] Pts
Bolt Pistol (x1); Thunder Hammer (x1)

1 Drop Pod @ [30] Pts
Storm Bolter

6 Tactical Squad (Troops) @ 205 Pts
Bolter (x4); Meltagun (x1); Meltagun (x1)

1 Veteran Sergeant @ [60] Pts
Bolt Pistol (x1); Thunder Hammer (x1)

1 Drop Pod @ [30] Pts
Storm Bolter

0 Land Speeder Squadron (Fast Attack) @ 240 Pts

1 LS Tornado #1 @ [80] Pts
Assault Cannon; Heavy Bolter

1 LS Tornado #2 @ [80] Pts
Assault Cannon; Heavy Bolter

1 LS Tornado #3 @ [80] Pts
Assault Cannon; Heavy Bolter

6 Tactical Squad (Troops) @ 205 Pts
Bolter (x4); Meltagun (x1); Meltagun (x1)

1 Veteran Sergeant @ [60] Pts
Bolt Pistol (x1); Thunder Hammer (x1)

1 Drop Pod @ [30] Pts
Storm Bolter

6 Tactical Squad (Troops) @ 205 Pts
Bolter (x4); Meltagun (x1); Meltagun (x1)

1 Veteran Sergeant @ [60] Pts
Bolt Pistol (x1); Thunder Hammer (x1)

1 Drop Pod @ [30] Pts
Storm Bolter

Models in Army: 56
 
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In article <yradnR8Sfo8pYqPfRVn-pg@comcast.com>, Craig Little wrote:
> Okay, I still haven't fully grasped the Chapter Traits system, but is this a
> good viable army for the new V4 environment?

<snip list>

With my immense expertise from a grand total of 3 games with
salamanders I will make the following comments:

* Deep striking 'Fear of darkness' sounds like a very good idea. I was
at the receiving end of that last saturday, and it ran my devastators
off the board. OTOH the librarian and terminator command squad did get
wiped out during my next turn...

* The command squad appear to be geared for close combat. A min-sized
close combat unit won't stay effective for long.

* Thunder hammers are very fluffy for salamanders, but costs twice as
much as power fists for a rather marginal extra effect. Do they all
have to be thunder hammers to satisfy your sense of salamander
fluffyness?

* 5 assault cannons. Nasty.

* There is a major lack of variation in your list. Do all of the
tactical squads have to be identical? Both dual flamer and dual plasma
units can also be highly useful.

* Numbers. No unit is larger than 6 models. This will likely leave you
with few units that qualifies as scoring units at the end of the game.
Especially if you want to get some use out of the 'Never despair'
trait.


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Joakim
 
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"jockelinde" <nouser@notmydomain.se> wrote in message
news:slrnd3ugq1.or3.nouser@crux.id.gu.se...
> In article <yradnR8Sfo8pYqPfRVn-pg@comcast.com>, Craig Little wrote:
>> Okay, I still haven't fully grasped the Chapter Traits system, but is
>> this a
>> good viable army for the new V4 environment?
>
> <snip list>
>
> * Numbers. No unit is larger than 6 models. This will likely leave you
> with few units that qualifies as scoring units at the end of the game.
> Especially if you want to get some use out of the 'Never despair'
> trait.
>
You make a number of valid points, which is why the new list looks a little
something like this:

HQ
Codicier w/Force Weapon, Fear of Darkness & Iron Halo
9-man Command Squad with BPCCW, Krak & Furious Charge (including Vet sarge w
BP and Thunder Hammer) all in drop pod 389

Elites 1
Venerable Dreadnought w/ Storm Bolter/CCw & AssCannon, Tank Hunters, Drop
Pod 165

Elites 2
Dreadnought w/Heavy Flamer/CCw & AssCannon, Drop Pod 145

Elites 3
Dreadnought w/Heavy Flamer/CCw & AssCannon, Drop Pod 145

Troops 1
10 Tactical Marines, 1 Flamer, 1 Meltagun (includes Vet Sarge with BP PFist)
in Drop Pod 231

Troops 2
8 Tactical Marines, 1 Flamer, 1 Meltagun (includes Vet Sarge with BP PFist)
in Drop Pod 201

Troops 3
8 Tactical Marines, 2 Flamers, Frag (includes Vet Sarge with BP PFist) in
Drop Pod 204

Troops 4
8 Tactical Marines, 2 Meltaguns (includes Vet Sarge with BP PFist) in Drop
Pod 205

Fast Attack 1
2 Landspeeder Tornado (HB AC) 160


Total 1845 points, 59 Models, 8 Drop Pods, 5 Assault Cannon