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Hi

For XMAS Santa kindly got me a 'space marine megaforce' pack. In this pack
it has a 'combat squad' - which seems to comprise of 5 regular looking space
marines. But what is a combat squad? the codex doesn't mention them. Do
they count as a troops choice? or can I make them into a command squad - if
so does one of the models have to be distinguished as a sergeant?

Thanks
Garbin
 
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"Garbin" <igcain@lineone.net> wrote in message
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> For XMAS Santa kindly got me a 'space marine megaforce' pack. In this
> pack it has a 'combat squad' - which seems to comprise of 5 regular
> looking space marines. But what is a combat squad? the codex doesn't
> mention them. Do they count as a troops choice? or can I make them into
> a command squad - if so does one of the models have to be distinguished as
> a sergeant?

Marine tactical squads can be taken as 5 - 10 marines, 1 of which is the
sergeant. So yes, you can use these 5 to represent a troops choice. A
sergeant looks just like a normal marine, however you could arm him with a
bolt pistol and close combat weapon if you wanted for no points change.
Normally sergeants just have something that makes them stand out, like a
different coloured helmet or marking, or stick a purity seal on him.

And yes, you could field them as a command squad if you wanted too.
Basically, use them however you see fit.

Dan
 
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"Garbin" <igcain@lineone.net> wrote in message
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> Hi
>
> For XMAS Santa kindly got me a 'space marine megaforce' pack. In this
pack
> it has a 'combat squad' - which seems to comprise of 5 regular looking
space
> marines. But what is a combat squad? the codex doesn't mention them. Do
> they count as a troops choice? or can I make them into a command squad -
if
> so does one of the models have to be distinguished as a sergeant?

"combat squad" means the same as demi-squad. i.e. a full squad is 10
marines, but it's often split into 2 combat squads of 5 marines in small
actions for greater tactical flexibility / mutual support or whatever. no
reason why you can't kit it out as a command squad if you have the
components.
 
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in my opinion..
the box needed a name...
so... Combat Squad it became

but there just simpel ordinary space marines
and isnt a Special squad
just five extra space marines to do with as one pleases

greets Dappere

> Hi
>
> For XMAS Santa kindly got me a 'space marine megaforce' pack. In this
pack
> it has a 'combat squad' - which seems to comprise of 5 regular looking
space
> marines. But what is a combat squad? the codex doesn't mention them. Do
> they count as a troops choice? or can I make them into a command squad -
if
> so does one of the models have to be distinguished as a sergeant?
>
> Thanks
> Garbin
>
>
 
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> "Garbin" <igcain@lineone.net> wrote in message
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>> For XMAS Santa kindly got me a 'space marine megaforce' pack. In this
>> pack it has a 'combat squad' - which seems to comprise of 5 regular
>> looking space marines. But what is a combat squad? the codex doesn't
>> mention them. Do they count as a troops choice? or can I make them into
>> a command squad - if so does one of the models have to be distinguished
>> as a sergeant?
>
> Marine tactical squads can be taken as 5 - 10 marines, 1 of which is the
> sergeant. So yes, you can use these 5 to represent a troops choice. A
> sergeant looks just like a normal marine, however you could arm him with a
> bolt pistol and close combat weapon if you wanted for no points change.
> Normally sergeants just have something that makes them stand out, like a
> different coloured helmet or marking, or stick a purity seal on him.

Thaks for the reply - BTW what's a 'purity seal'?
>
> And yes, you could field them as a command squad if you wanted too.
> Basically, use them however you see fit.
>
> Dan
>
 
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"Garbin" <igcain@lineone.net> wrote in message
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> Thaks for the reply - BTW what's a 'purity seal'?

In addition to what Dappere Dodo posted, the seal is on the sprue - it's a
little round thing with a piece of scroll attached, that looks like a wax
seal such as used on letters in the old days.

Look at
http://uk.games-workshop.com/storefront/store.uk?do=Individual&code=99120101006&orignav=10

In the picture of the squad, the marine in the centre has a purity seal on
his right shoulder pad.

Dan
 
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> Thaks for the reply - BTW what's a 'purity seal'?
> >
DAMN boy,,,,, dont you read the Codex??????
its in there.

ah well you must be a very green boy haha never mind
basicly the name says it all.
a seal of purity. it means that the the wearer is pure of mind

in games terms. if you have failed a leadership test an you have
to fall back. move your models 2D6"
if one of you models has purity seals you role 3 dice and discard
the highest.
for instanse you have a SM Tactical squad with a veteran sergeant,
or is commanded by an HQ caracter, and that Caracter is equipt with
a purity seal.
that Squad fails its leadership test and id has to fall back
you role a 5, 2 and a 3. you most discard the 5 and fallback 2+3=5"
 
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"Dappere Dodo" <dd.suykerbuyk@zonnet.nl> wrote in message
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>> Thaks for the reply - BTW what's a 'purity seal'?
>> >
> DAMN boy,,,,, dont you read the Codex??????
> its in there.
>
> ah well you must be a very green boy haha never mind

Boy! Boy! I'm actually a father of two boys, which is how I got in to this
Warhammer thing in the first place.

I currently have a Necron army, which seemed to be more straight forward
than these space marines - and much easier to paint ;-)

> basicly the name says it all.
> a seal of purity. it means that the the wearer is pure of mind
>
> in games terms. if you have failed a leadership test an you have
> to fall back. move your models 2D6"
> if one of you models has purity seals you role 3 dice and discard
> the highest.
> for instanse you have a SM Tactical squad with a veteran sergeant,
> or is commanded by an HQ caracter, and that Caracter is equipt with
> a purity seal.
> that Squad fails its leadership test and id has to fall back
> you role a 5, 2 and a 3. you most discard the 5 and fallback 2+3=5"
>
>
 
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> Boy! Boy! I'm actually a father of two boys, which is how I got in to this
> Warhammer thing in the first place.
aah NECRONS
now thats more up my ally

>
> I currently have a Necron army, which seemed to be more straight forward
> than these space marines - and much easier to paint ;-)
>
well... thats how you look at it..
ever tryed Black Templars: Space marines
spray them black, make the shoulderblades white, weapons metal and eyes
green
and done.

my necrons are ectualy more detailed then my space marines
but if you ever have questions you can always ask us 😉

heres a tip
on the warhammer website there are also FAQ downloads and other helpfull
tips

greets Dennis
 
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Garbin entered the world pub known as rec.games.miniatures.warhammer and
said...

>
> "Dappere Dodo" <dd.suykerbuyk@zonnet.nl> wrote in message
> news:b1f48$41dad840$3e3bd75c$4375@news1.versatel.nl...
> >> Thaks for the reply - BTW what's a 'purity seal'?
> >> >
> > DAMN boy,,,,, dont you read the Codex??????
> > its in there.
> >
> > ah well you must be a very green boy haha never mind
>
> Boy! Boy! I'm actually a father of two boys, which is how I got in to this
> Warhammer thing in the first place.
>
Ayup, yer still a boy 'til yer younguns got kids o'their own...

> I currently have a Necron army, which seemed to be more straight forward
> than these space marines - and much easier to paint ;-)
>

Nekk0rns, yup he's a young'un alright...

--
Jim M
posted on this day, the 4144th of September 1993

"Look alive. Here comes a buzzard." -- Walt Kelly (Pogo)

http://jimac.tripod.com
 
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Dappere Dodo wrote:
> in my opinion..
> the box needed a name...
> so... Combat Squad it became
Actually there is a basis for the term Combat squad. I believe in Rogue
Trader days space marines came in squads of ten space marines, no
more... no less. This was carried over to Version 2 of the rules.
Somewhere along the line it became apparent that if you played a small
game that it was very disadvantageous to have a couple of 10 man squads
and the idea of the combat squad was spawned. A 10 man squad could be
split into two 5 man squads to give marines a bit of tactical
flexibility. When Version 3 came along the variable squad size of 5-10
marines appeared making the traditional idea of a combat squad
unecessary. So for all intensive purposes a combat squad in Version 4 is
any squad of regular space marines...
Actually there is a
> but there just simpel ordinary space marines
> and isnt a Special squad
> just five extra space marines to do with as one pleases
>
> greets Dappere
>
>
Definitely a lot of writing for very little added value to your life.
Hope you didn't read it all

Master Ravenclaw
 
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in my opinion..
<<the box needed a name...
so... Combat Squad it became


but there just simpel ordinary space marines
and isnt a Special squad
just five extra space marines to do with as one pleases >>

No, in 2nd edition, Space Marines came as either 5 or 10 man
squads. Chaos Space Marines could range from 5-10, but Imperial ones
came in fixed numbers. A tactical squad of 10 could be split into two
five man squads before the game, hence the term "combat squads"
 
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