$450 Gaming Build

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I am looking to build a PC for 1080p gaming at high settings, for about $450 or less. I am 16 years old, and my budget is quite tight. I want to play games like Far Cry 4, H1Z1, Watch Dogs, BF3/4, and GTA V. Needless to say, to play some of these games at a good frame rate I may need to turn the settings down a little. Here is my build! ( http://pcpartpicker.com/p/ZsmDdC ) I don't Have an HDD or OS listed as I can reuse those from an old PC! All suggestions are welcome! Thanks for your time!
 


That is actually a very weird solution? Why wouldn't you just suggest I go with AMD for the moment and upgrade to a 4690K in a few months/Black Friday/Christmas? What advantages would this offer?
 
If you're going to upgrade the cpu, you can go for the pentium G3258 and a Gigabyte b85m-d3h now. That way you don't need to change the mobo. It will also give you a nice upgrade path to an i5 like the -4590, or a xeon e3 1231v3, which will be more powerfull than anything amd has to offer, and be good for a really long time.

The x4 860k is pretty much the best cpu for the fm2+ socket, and the am3+ socket is dead since the AMD's new Zen will be on the am4 socket.
 
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i3-4160 3.6GHz Dual-Core Processor ($108.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-B85M-DS3H Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($41.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($48.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: XFX Radeon R9 280 3GB Black Edition Double Dissipation Video Card ($149.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Thermaltake VL80001W2Z ATX Mid Tower Case ($22.99 @ Micro Center)
Power Supply: Antec High Current Gamer 620W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($44.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $417.93
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-06-13 22:33 EDT-0400
 


I can max out every single game I own. I own all sorts of games including the very demanding ones like Battlefield, Crysis, Metro, GTA V etc.
 
you can go with i3 without going out of your budget:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i3-4150 3.5GHz Dual-Core Processor ($109.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-B85M-DS3H Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($51.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: XFX Radeon R9 280 3GB Black Edition Double Dissipation Video Card ($169.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Enermax OSTROG ATX Mid Tower Case ($37.50 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($42.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $450.44
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-06-13 22:42 EDT-0400

ends you can go with this case too, if the only manage to buy one after 06/15: http://pcpartpicker.com/part/enermax-case-eca3321bbtu2
 


These are great examples of stupid tests giving stupid results .

A computer set up with a game and an OS is not what happens in the real world .
Even the most minimal set up will have dozens of other program using cpu cycles . Starting with AV, firewall and network services . Once you add the computational load of online gaming the intel dual core falls flat .

The much more computationally powerful AMD multicore processors start to show their strength

But lets also see what the techspot results mean to a user .
Firstly the 860K is not included so I guess you want to show the superiority of the intel dual core to the AMD FX processors?
Well bad news for you unfortunately . Most people will be playing with 60 Hz monitors . This is the same as 60 FPS . Thats all the monitor can ever display .
The FX 6350 is making more than 60 fps . The smart money says thats a mild OC on an $95 FX 6300 . Or you could spend $200 on an intel i5 and see exactly the same 60 fps on your monitor.
Oops .
 


If single thread performance is the most important thing for gaming why did Microsoft and Sony both choose 8 core processors for their gaming consoles ?
Perhaps you should go tell them their billions of dollars of research and experience was utterly wasted because all they needed to do was come and ask you

And BTW the FX 6300 won every single comparison with that i3 apart from the single threaded workloads . And those never actually happen when you use that software
 
The reason why the consoles use 8 cores is because multithreaded performance with 8 cores is superior to 4 stronger cores. The reason why games on consoles sometimes run like crap is because they do not take advantage of the cores the consoles have. Alone the CPUs in the consoles have weak single threading. However, multithreading is very decent and combined with GPGPU should have very little issues.
 
The AM3+ and specially the AM2+ are dead end, in a few years it will be impossible to upgrade the CPU without changing the motherboard, while if you go with i3-4160 you will be able to upgrade to i7 or a Xeon E3 CPU without changing motherboard and if you buy a H97 motherboard you will also be able to upgrade to a broadwell CPU.

Plus the i3 have lower power consumption.

There is little doubt that i3-4160 is better for gaming than 869k or even FX-6300, all benchmarks shows it:

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-cpu-review-overclock,3106-5.html

http://www.3dmark.com/compare/is/2760339/is/2913037 ; http://www.3dmark.com/compare/3dm11/9371374/3dm11/9325281 (not even overclocked the 860k can get better performance than i3-4160 and to overclock you need a good motherboard and CPU cooler which will increase the build cost)

https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=AMD+Athlon+X4+860K+Quad+Core
http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Core+i3-4160+%40+3.60GHz&id=2317

http://www.techspot.com/review/1006-the-witcher-3-benchmarks/page5.html
http://www.techspot.com/review/1000-project-cars-benchmarks/page5.html
http://www.techspot.com/review/991-gta-5-pc-benchmarks/page6.html
http://www.techspot.com/review/878-metro-redux-benchmarks/page4.html
http://www.techspot.com/review/827-watch-dogs-benchmarks/page5.html

One last note, there is no point in comparing console and PC, they are different systems, but gaming performance of a PC is better than a console: http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2015-the-best-pc-hardware-for-the-witcher-3