4690K @ 4.7Ghz daily?

[tomashen]

is it ok to run 4.7ghz on daily usage? or it wil kill my chip fast?

what DOES exactly kill the chip? is it the overclocking temperature or what? i am currently at 4.4ghz daily and i idle at 28-30C and load i never go above 50...

 

[volcanoscout]

Excessive voltage and heat will kill your CPU. You want to keep your core voltage at 1.3V or lower and, in my opinion, ideally your peak CPU temps at 75C or lower. The temp ceiling is subject to debate, as the CPU is designed be able to handle temps higher than that. What can't be argued is that the cooler you keep it, the better it will perform and the longer it should last.

 

[tomashen]

so the life span just depends on the temps of cpu at max load ? so if i keep it at 70 OR below . i will be fine with lifespan ?

1.3volts here look

http://images.anandtech.com/doci/8227/5%20i5-4690K%20OC_575px.png

source : http://www.anandtech.com/show/8227/devils-canyon-review-intel-core-i7-4790k-and-i5-4690k/2

 

[volcanoscout]

I should also add that, especially when overclocking, clean and reliable power is important to maintaining system health. Using a power supply unit that is of poor quality risks your whole system, not just your CPU.

 

[tomashen]

ive got evga supernova g2 750w 80+GOLD . good right? i know there is platinum but too expensive

 

[Cons29]

my take, the question is, do you need 4.7? i mean, if you use say 4.4 vs 4.7, do things improve? enough to warrant more heat and power consumption?
i have 4ghz, i could go 4.5 but it's hotter and dont really sense any difference when i play games

 

[tomashen]

yeah unfortunately 4.4ghz overclock already helps me rendering videos and photoshoping and whatnot (i did not think i would be doing this when i bought my parts) but as it turns when you have that horsepower you want to do so much more with it than just game but from stock clocks to 4.4ghz im already in a big boost. also some games boosted by 10fps so... i just want to know if 4.7 will not shorten the lfespan if my temps stay below 75c?

 

[volcanoscout]

Yes, that's a good PSU - the gold, platinum, etc., addresses it's efficiency at various load levels, not necessarily overall quality. There are plenty of golds on the market that I would pick over various platinum models. Raidmax sells a platinum that you couldn't pay me to use.

The numbers from the Anandtech chart you can take to the bank...for the specific chips that they tested. Your chip might do a lot better, as good, or worse than the CPUs they tested. Nothing over stock specs and ratings is guaranteed. My 4790K can do a higher clock, at much lower voltages and temps than their test chip did, while my 4770K can't do anything over the stock turbo speed.

1.3V is your safe voltage ceiling. Your CPU is always degrading as long as power is being applied to it - there's nothing you can do to prevent it. It's the RATE of degradation that's important. Applying vcore in excess of 1.3V can significantly increase that rate. (Truth in lending statement - even with increased degradation due to vcore over 1.3V, unless you get crazy with it , it will probably still be running fine long after your whole rig is ready for upgrade. No guarantees though.) If you can keep your peak temp at 70C or under while at max load, you should be golden.

 

[tomashen]

thank you! answered perfectly! im going to give my cpu a try today with 4.7ghz and drop the voltages from 1.3 a little by 0.010 as far as i can

 

[volcanoscout]

Your call - I would start at 4.5GHz and work my way up till I hit max. What are you using for a CPU cooler? Also, what are you using for stability testing?

If it's the stock cooler, don't surprised if you hit your ceiling pretty quick - it's not designed for overclocking. Temp curves can rise very steeply, very quickly, so you'll want to keep a close eye on it and keep your finger on the kill-switch ready to stop the test.

 

[tomashen]

ow so from 4.5ghz go up bit by bit ?
im using 212 evo CM single fan it does the job very well though i have to say ... i know how cooling is important and ive been fideling with cooling for years but not with anything else in computers of my own .. only this year i am starting to take it to the next level of pc parts ...

stability testing Prime95 and if that is ok for some time .. then i run a game to give it a proper test... the crew for example kills the cpu alot especially at loading point it hogs cpu too 100% properly.. whole pc freezes (Everybody who plays it )


EDIT 1 : 4.7ghz @ 1.300volt = 63C temp under full power load. i will give it a shot with 1.290 volts .

EDIT 2 : 4.7ghz @ 1.290 volt = 62c temp under full load for like first 2 minutes.. then boom it jumps to 90c omfg... whyy ?

 

[tomashen]

i set 4.4ghz at 1.135volt .. 4.4ghz has the safest temps 🙁 above 4.4 the temps just jump to 90 after 3 minute stressing .... :/ how come ?

 

[volcanoscout]

Yes, start at 4.5 and work your way up. With your current load temps, you should be able to get 4.6 with the EVO. 4.7 is a definite maybe - with a 4790K and an EVO, 4.6 seems to be the plateau, but most of those guys are starting with load temps 10-15C higher than yours.

 

[tomashen]

i tried 4.5ghz but after 3 minutes of P95 power load.... temps go to 90c... is my chip shit or maybw im doing something wrong :/ ?

 

[scuzzycard]

The lastest versions of Prime 95 do not represent a realistic load situation - I would not base any decisions on Prime 95 temps. As long as you are below 80 in real-world applications, you're more than OK.