4k monitor scaling fixed?

[princetigerpeep]

I remember a year ago, my friend bought a 4k monitor but had scaling issues with his windows 10 even after scaling it 200% or 250% as other programs do not scale up in text. Has microsoft fixed this problem yet? I'm planning to buy a 4k monitor but I don't want to have problems with reading texts as i have to read a lot for my work at home. Let me know what I can do or should do. Thanks

 

[photonboy]

It's not Microsoft's issue. Some programs have not been rewritten to support proper scaling.

Apple doesn't tend to have this issue because they have more control over the programs (but far less available programs).

I've only had a few issues such as a couple Adobe program.

*If in doubt, I suggest getting a 2560x1440 monitor.

 

[princetigerpeep]

It's not Microsoft's issue. Some programs have not been rewritten to support proper scaling.

Apple doesn't tend to have this issue because they have more control over the programs (but far less available programs).

I've only had a few issues such as a couple Adobe program.

*If in doubt, I suggest getting a 2560x1440 monitor.

If i get a 1400p monitor, is it assured that all programs will be scaled ok?

 

[kyzarvs]

It's not Microsoft's issue. Some programs have not been rewritten to support proper scaling.

Apple doesn't tend to have this issue because they have more control over the programs (but far less available programs).

I've only had a few issues such as a couple Adobe program.

*If in doubt, I suggest getting a 2560x1440 monitor.

If i get a 1400p monitor, is it assured that all programs will be scaled ok?

I have a 27" 1440p monitor, I run W10 at normal scaling, looks fine to me, super sharp.

 

[photonboy]

More info: https://blogs.technet.microsoft.com/askcore/2016/08/16/display-scaling-changes-for-the-windows-10-anniversary-update/

"Why doesn’t Microsoft Just Fix Display Scaling on Windows?
This is a valid question that many of us have asked ourselves when joining teams that are working on this problem space. The main challenge that we face, however, is that many, many, applications that run on Windows are using a design pattern where they ask Windows for information about the system when they launch (questions such as how big the display is, what is the display scale factor, what is the size of the font that should be used for default text, as well as others) and then cache this information and never expect it to change. Because of this, even if Windows did start giving these applications information about a DPI change, most, if not all, of these applications wouldn’t even be asking and therefore would not respond correctly. Furthermore, if Windows did start providing dynamic display-scale-factor-related information this would be a nightmare for application compatibility and would probably cause more problems for application stability than it would help in terms of high DPI display issues."

and
https://pcmonitors.info/articles/the-4k-uhd-3840-x-2160-experience/

"Many of Adobe’s programs, including the popular Adobe Reader, did not scale very cleanly using this setting. It may not be clear from the image below, but the navigational elements were simply enlarged (stretched) and didn’t look particularly pleasing. As with the web browsers, though, you regain independent zoom control for the actual content. So you can scale that as you like whilst maintaining the sharpness benefits of the high resolution."

The above is about 10 months old so some of that will have changed.

 

[photonboy]

"If i get a 1400p monitor, is it assured that all programs will be scaled ok?"

There will be some sub-optimal scaling for certain programs. However, for those programs where scaling is an issue the problem gets worse as the resolution increases.

I'm NOT saying to avoid 4K. What I would do is list all the main programs like Adobe Premiere or whatever you intend to use and find out if it's still an issue.

4K looks better than 2560x1440 in some programs.
4K looks worse than 2560x1440 in some programs.

If you are just unsure, or think there MAY be an issue with a program you'll use then go with 2560x1440. It's still a really high resolution, and even tiny text looks sharp (usually).

Quick tips:
a) set DPI to 125% for 2560x1440 (at desktop)
- right-click desktop, "display settings"...

b) Browser page can be scaled with "MOUSE SCROLL + CTRL KEY"

c) use a plugin for a browser to set a default ZOOM level if you want so that NEW pages don't show as tiny, narrow pages

d) Set monitor to scale by ASPECT (on monitor itself)
- alternatively you can change the GPU drivers to scale on the GPU itself but there doesn't seem to be a benefit

e) Game resolution is based on what graphics card you have, and how demanding the game is. 4K often doesn't look any better than 2560x1440 visually either despite FPS dropping often to 50% or lower of what it was.

4K can really help with some types of aliasing though, especially the "crawling" jagged line issue.

Conversely, it's claimed rendering at 2560x1440 then scaling to 4K can show obvious artifacting. It's true, but frankly I doubt it's very obvious.

f) CLEARTYPE** (important)
- you'll want to open up Cleartype along with a few other programs. Some text can look too blurry or even have a purple tinge depending on the scaling method they use. So you end up trying to strike a balance of what looks best overall (tuning for one program can make it better, but then cause issues with a different program)