4K Video Editing - Rendering

[jayhayjay]

i5 4460
Gigabyte GTX 960 Windforce 4 GB
12 gb 1333 mhz corsair ram

Are these basic components cabable of rendering and producing 4k videos at 60hz?

 

[Hawkshot]

nope not even close to hitting the mark for 4k, 4k quality is very intensive and even very high end builds struggle.

 

[jayhayjay]

nope not even close to hitting the mark for 4k, 4k quality is very intensive and even very high end builds struggle.

Damn.

How about 16gbs of ram and a GTX 970?

Also, could you suggest what would work the best despite what I state?

 

[Hawkshot]

nope not even close to hitting the mark for 4k, 4k quality is very intensive and even very high end builds struggle.

Damn.

How about 16gbs of ram and a GTX 970?

Also, could you suggest what would work the best despite what I state?

for rendering videos especially 4k videos the amount of cores actually matters quite a lot, the i5 processors are amazing for gaming and they are pretty good at rendering but not good enough for 4k in my mind, you will want to look at a Intel Xeon chip such as the Xeon 1231 V3 its not that expensive this processor is made for rendering and also runs games very well too if you wanted to game as well, also Vram is a big thing when it comes to rendering so my suggestion would be the following, also 16GB should be fine.

CPU: Xeon 1231 v3
GPU R9 390 8GB

 

[Zerk2012]

i5 4460
Gigabyte GTX 960 Windforce 4 GB
12 gb 1333 mhz corsair ram

Are these basic components cabable of rendering and producing 4k videos at 60hz?

Just stating 4K video is not enough information.
Can you do some 4K editing with that PC yes, but that would depend on a lot of different things.
Here is a decent link to what makes everything more or less intensive.
http://www.videomaker.com/article/17135-editing-in-4k-minimum-system-requirements
The lowest price I would even consider for 4K. All depending on the format and size of your projects more power could be needed.
6 core 5820K, GTX 980, SSD for the operating system and programs, smaller SSD for a scratch drive, 2X hard drives in raid 0, a bit of overkill on the power supply and a very high quality one, 32GB of memory with the price their no reason to stop at 16GB.
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/rx7JK8

 

[jayhayjay]

i5 4460
Gigabyte GTX 960 Windforce 4 GB
12 gb 1333 mhz corsair ram

Are these basic components cabable of rendering and producing 4k videos at 60hz?

Just stating 4K video is not enough information.
Can you do some 4K editing with that PC yes, but that would depend on a lot of different things.
Here is a decent link to what makes everything more or less intensive.
http://www.videomaker.com/article/17135-editing-in-4k-minimum-system-requirements
The lowest price I would even consider for 4K. All depending on the format and size of your projects more power could be needed.
6 core 5820K, GTX 980, SSD for the operating system and programs, smaller SSD for a scratch drive, 2X hard drives in raid 0, a bit of overkill on the power supply and a very high quality one, 32GB of memory with the price their no reason to stop at 16GB.
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/rx7JK8

I've actually seen that particular post about 4k editing before. I know it takes a lot of power to work in 4k but I'm building two PCs which I want to have the same components, therefore, I'm trying not to come up with a very expensive rig. I don't want it to exceed 2000 dollars/euros. Could you suggest anything?

 

[Hawkshot]

i5 4460
Gigabyte GTX 960 Windforce 4 GB
12 gb 1333 mhz corsair ram

Are these basic components cabable of rendering and producing 4k videos at 60hz?

Just stating 4K video is not enough information.
Can you do some 4K editing with that PC yes, but that would depend on a lot of different things.
Here is a decent link to what makes everything more or less intensive.
http://www.videomaker.com/article/17135-editing-in-4k-minimum-system-requirements
The lowest price I would even consider for 4K. All depending on the format and size of your projects more power could be needed.
6 core 5820K, GTX 980, SSD for the operating system and programs, smaller SSD for a scratch drive, 2X hard drives in raid 0, a bit of overkill on the power supply and a very high quality one, 32GB of memory with the price their no reason to stop at 16GB.
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/rx7JK8

I've actually seen that particular post about 4k editing before. I know it takes a lot of power to work in 4k but I'm building two PCs which I want to have the same components, therefore, I'm trying not to come up with a very expensive rig. I don't want it to exceed 2000 dollars/euros. Could you suggest anything?

Is this for a whole rig, including monitor/mouse/keyboard os and so Thoth?

 

[jayhayjay]

@Hawkshot

I accidentally chose your answer as the solution. It was a mistake!

Anyway.

I'm only talking about internal components. CPU, GPU, RAM, M/B, HDD, PSU, CASE and OS.

Thanks in advance.

 

[Hawkshot]

I unselected my answer as you done it by mistake, this is so you can choose the actual answer that helps you, this will work pretty nicely for your needs.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1231 V3 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($242.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock H97 Anniversary ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($70.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance Pro 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR3-2400 Memory ($169.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 1TB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($343.98 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($62.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 980 Ti 6GB Video Card ($606.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Raidmax Vampire ATX Full Tower Case ($124.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: XFX XTR 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($106.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($17.75 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM (64-bit) ($85.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $1833.61
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-11-20 06:21 EST-0500

or this which is a tiny bit over.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-5820K 3.3GHz 6-Core Processor ($379.99 @ NCIX US)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($24.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock X99M Extreme4 Micro ATX LGA2011-3 Motherboard ($168.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2666 Memory ($87.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 1TB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($343.98 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($71.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 980 Ti 6GB Video Card ($606.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Raidmax Vampire ATX Full Tower Case ($124.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: XFX XTR 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($106.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($17.75 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM (64-bit) ($85.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $2010.50
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-11-20 06:23 EST-0500

 

[jayhayjay]

That's a thorough recommendation. Thank you.

I actually meant that I wanted both PC rigs to come to a total of 2000 dollars, but, I slowly realise that something like that can't happen. 4K is pricey.

By the way, I have the LG W2363D PF 3d monitor. It's a 1080p monitor from 2010. Should I buy a new one or will 4k work well on it?

 

[Hawkshot]

you cant view 4k unless you have a 4k screen ? or are you talking about strictly for rendering purposes?

 

[jayhayjay]

No, just view 4k. I've heard that you can adjust to 4k resolution using a particular NVIDIA program and it can work pretty well on 1080p monitors. Some even say that 4k looks better on 1080p monitors.

It's just that my monitor is from 2010 and it supports only hdmi 1.4 at 60hz, when, 4k at 1.4 hdmi works only at 30 hz. Will an hdmi 2.0 to 1.4 cable solve this issue or there won't be any issues anyway?

 

[Zerk2012]

i5 4460
Gigabyte GTX 960 Windforce 4 GB
12 gb 1333 mhz corsair ram

Are these basic components cabable of rendering and producing 4k videos at 60hz?

Just stating 4K video is not enough information.
Can you do some 4K editing with that PC yes, but that would depend on a lot of different things.
Here is a decent link to what makes everything more or less intensive.
http://www.videomaker.com/article/17135-editing-in-4k-minimum-system-requirements
The lowest price I would even consider for 4K. All depending on the format and size of your projects more power could be needed.
6 core 5820K, GTX 980, SSD for the operating system and programs, smaller SSD for a scratch drive, 2X hard drives in raid 0, a bit of overkill on the power supply and a very high quality one, 32GB of memory with the price their no reason to stop at 16GB.
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/rx7JK8

I've actually seen that particular post about 4k editing before. I know it takes a lot of power to work in 4k but I'm building two PCs which I want to have the same components, therefore, I'm trying not to come up with a very expensive rig. I don't want it to exceed 2000 dollars/euros. Could you suggest anything?

Already had it listed about 1800 USD.
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/rx7JK8
6 core 5820K, GTX 980, SSD for the operating system and programs, smaller SSD for a scratch drive, 2X hard drives in raid 0, a bit of overkill on the power supply and a very high quality one, 32GB of memory with the price their no reason to stop at 16GB.

 

[bambiboom]

i5 4460
Gigabyte GTX 960 Windforce 4 GB
12 gb 1333 mhz corsair ram

Are these basic components cabable of rendering and producing 4k videos at 60hz?

jayhayjay,

As others have mentioned and the linked article, "Editing in 4K: Minimum System Requirements" mentions, the best system is going to have a lot of cores/ threads to work on rendering / effects processing. Also, depending on the file size, a lot of RAM as well. And a good GPU. Plus a good disk system. For 4K editing /processing it really has to be strong in every way.

On a budget, my suggestion is to do something along the lines I did for my dedicated rendering system. For $190 including shipping I bought :

Dell Precision T5500 (2011) (Original): Xeon E5620 quad core @ 2.4 / 2.6 GHz > 6GB DDR3 ECC Reg 1333 > Quadro FX 580 (512MB) > Dell PERC 6/i SAS /SATA controller > Seagate Cheetah 15K 146GB > Windows 7 Professional 64-bit
[ Passmark system rating = 1479 / CPU = 4067 / 2D= 520 / 3D= 311 / Mem= 1473 / Disk= 1208]

And I spent:

CPU: $230
RAM: $110
GPU: $325
SSD: Value $60- left over
Mech'l Drive: $72

TOTAL= $190 + $795 = $985

To have:

Dell Precision T5500 (2011) (Revised)> Xeon X5680 six -core @ 3.33 / 3.6GHz, 24GB DDR3 ECC 1333 > Quadro K2200 (4GB ) > Samsung 840 250GB / WD RE4 Enterprise 1TB > M-Audio 192 sound card > Linksys WMP600N PCI WiFi > 875W PSU > Windows 7 Professional 64> HP 2711x (1920 X 1080)
[ Passmark system rating = 3490 / CPU = 9178 / 2D= 685 / 3D= 3566 / Mem= 1865 / Disk= 2122] [Cinebench 15 > CPU = 772 OpenGL= 99.72 FPS] 7.8.15

So I have 6- cores / 12 threads @ 3.33 /3.6GHz.

These have 3GB/s disk systems, so I've bought a PERC H310 SAS /SATA 6GB/s RAID controller NOS for $60.

An hour ago I received a T5500 CPU / memory /fan riser- $70. And, in about four or five days I'll receive a 2nd Xeon X5680- $170. Using the 6GB that arrived in the T5500, I have 12 cores /24 threads, 30GB of RAM, a good 4GB Quadro (the K2200 has 3D performance comparable to a GTX 750 ti), and a 6GB/s disk for about $1225. Performance at those speed is quite good.

The key is to buy a system-( for your use, buy a Precision T7500 with more RAM slot- up to 192GB- more drive bays, and an 1100W PSU-) with lower specification- slow 4-core, but that is in very good condition, and has a Windows 7 Professional COA to be able to reinstall Windows at no cost. This is a very good cost /performance method for this kind of system and the components are very high quality designed for ultra-reliability. Each X5680 CPU cost $1,550 new. Quiet too- a T7500 must weigh 40lbs.

I've bought used workstations since 2004 (still have Precision 390 (Xeon X3230), and T5400 (2X X5640 4-Core also) , and HP z420 (E5-1620) and never had a failure with loss of work. Even the 2004 P4 system still runs perfectly well.

Cheers,

BambiBoom

HP z420 (2015) > Xeon E5-1660 v2 six-core @ 3.7 / 4.0GHz > 32GB DDR3 ECC 1866 RAM > Quadro K4200 (4GB) > Intel 730 480GB (9SSDSC2BP480G4R5) > Western Digital Black WD1003FZEX 1TB> M-Audio 192 sound card > 600W PSU> Logitech z2300 > Linksys AE3000 USB WiFi > 2X Dell Ultrasharp U2715H (2560 X 1440) > Windows 7 Professional 64 >
[ Passmark Rating = 5064 > CPU= 13989 / 2D= 819 / 3D= 4596 / Mem= 2772 / Disk= 4555] [Cinebench R15 > CPU = 1014 OpenGL= 126.59 FPS] 7.8.15

Pending upgrade: HP /LSI 9212-4i PCIe SAS /SATA HBA RAID controller, 2X Seagate Constellation ES.3 1TB (RAID 1)

 

[jayhayjay]

@Zerk2012 In case you didn't notice, I'm going to buy each component twice, therefore, your 1800 usd price will actually be 3600 usd for me. Just trying to point that out. No problem with your post. Thank you.

@bambiboom That was an excellent recommendation. I've never thought of complete workstations. They may be very useful when I start working on film editing professionally 😛 I'm just an amateur who seeks a good rig that could be used for simple video creation. I just wanted it to be a bit capable of giving me a 4k experience. Anyway, I think I'm coming to a conclusion. I'll inform you for my decision. Thank you very much 😀