4k vs 144hz gaming and TV

[dogga94]

Ok so I had a look round town and NO BODY has 144hz or even 120hz monitors like wtf? There where a few 4k ones. The ones I saw where around $500 but they didn't look that different and still seemed a bit pixely? Like I thought having 4 times the pixels would make a BIG difference, Even on the big TVs it didn't seem much difference. (maybe they had shitty systems so it could use it to full potential?)

Do they make 120hz 4k? but I've seen a few youtube videos and i can see the basic differences of the smoothness in just general use, ingame was a bit harder to see though.

I watch alot of streaming tv and movies at quite low res, Would this look really bad on a 4k monitor?

It seems like a bad time though, but I really need a new monitor. Even if it means I can't use it to its full potential atm because we should be able to pretty soon right.

Currently my new build is

i5 6600k
GTX970
MSI M5 z170
8gb RAM

Now I know this can't run 4k well at super high but it could run it pretty decent at medium no? Or I could still upgrade later on. Rather than buying another monitor.

 

[Cons29]

if you go to 4k, make sure you have enough vram (among others)

if it was me, i'd go for a 144hz 1440p, then get a 4k in the future once they go mainstream and gpu's able to handle them well.
4k is hard, much more so if you want 144hz smoothness

 

[dogga94]

but wouldn't that just mean Id have to do more upgrading? Then when I upgrade I would have to get a new GC AND a new monitor. 4k isn't far off from being mainstream anyway no?

If possible plz give reasons on why which is better rather than just saying it is. Thanks.

 

[Cons29]

well, it actually depends on how much you have to burn. if money is not a problem then go for 4k.
for most, 4k would not be practical because it would require some serious hardware.

but cost aside, 4k is better, but i have not seen 144hz 4k though

 

[fkr]

unless you are in the top 1% of all gamers and you really want to play fps competitively 144Hz is a waste. the real sweet spot is right at 90Hz, guys like linus from linustechtips agrees. this is where you see improvements in all games as far as smoothness.

I would try and find a nice 1440p monitor that can get you to 90Hz.

for me anything above 1440P does not make sense as even the best hardware out right now even in SLI/CF has a hard time doing 90+fps at 1440p. so why buy a monitor tech that is not really supported right now.

this also holds true for why not to buy 4k right now as by the time 4k is really supported there will be vastly better 4k panels out.

I would buy an ips 1440p (korean monitor) for the best playability and colors

If you care about competitive gaming then a non ips monitor will have the best response times and you should go for 1080p 144Hz

 

[dogga94]

Yep totally see what your saying. But yea I don't really need 144hz. And as I saw IRL 4k didn't really impress me that much. Like if a youtube video impressed me more I'm sure it will be much better. 1440p It is and theres always DSR if I really needed to and could.

 

[dogga94]

any suggestions on what to get. Looking for something in roughly the 400-600 dollar area. Korean monitors?

 

[fkr]

so this is the one I bought a year ago or so. mine overclocks to 120Hz but is really completely stable at 110Hz. I actually run it at 90Hz because for the type of games I play I cannot tell a difference and I like to push my equipment to the limits but rarely keep it there.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA4JH1GM6846

it is the highest rated 1440p monitor on newegg. just do a search for 3560x1440 and sort by ratings and this comes out on top with 30+ ratings and they are all 4 or 5 stars. this is actually a top of the line samsung monitor that apple uses on there best setups (at least it used to be).

there are some great forums on overclock.net for preset calibration at 90Hz and let me tell you this pls monitor has color vibrance like you have never scene before. I literally watch my favorite movies of all time on this instead of my large screen just because the colors are so much more true to life. I really consider it one of my best purchases ever.

you must have a dual dvi-d output on your GPU. my old crossfire 7950's worked perfect as does my current gtx970
Please use DVI-D port only. cannot used with DVI-I or DVI-S. Also cannot be used by port converter. (D-sub, HDMI, DP)

this is the best monitor in my opinion right now and it costs $300, cost me 350 when i got it but thats okay. it was shipped from korea and i got it in three days.

the only issue amongst all of these is some light bleed that can only be scene when the whole screen is black and a few have a single dead pixel but it is rare.

 

[dogga94]

Are you sure? Surely display port monitors and there bandwidth can get MUCH better picture quality than DVI?

 

[Suzuki@1473780084@1473780163]

DisplayPort and DVI are both digital, there is no difference in picture quality. The difference is the bandwidth.

 

[dogga94]

alright one more question 😛 So these are roughly around $400 but to get the real deal 1440p with high refresh rate in new legit models you basically have to double the price. Understandbly this makes it diminishing returns BUT is this just upgrading it to make it have a pretty bezel. Or is there a significant jump in image quality. I heard the korean ones sometimes get frame skipping is that an issue much?

But it does look like the qnix is the go unless someone provides a good reason to go with a brand name one.

 

[Suzuki@1473780084@1473780163]

A lot of the times, you pay more because it's a known brand. The features they include are probably only used by 1% of the users. A lot of the times, the same panel is used, but you pay a lot more for brand A than B, the difference then is usually just aestethics.

Because manufacturers have their own ways of measuring contrast, color, etc. It's impossible to compare monitors. The only way to find out which looks better is either by looking at the panel type. If it says TN-LCD, it's garbage. If it says IPS (PLS for Samsung), it's fantastic. But that's where it gets tricky, what if there are 2 different IPS monitors you want to compare? Can't do that.

I'm glad you're talking about refresh rate and resolution, and the aestethics. These are the only specs that matter. The response time a lot of people seem to think they know a lot about, are just wrong. They are fake numbers, and depending on manufacturer, a poor quality "1 ms" can be slower than a different manufacturers "5 ms". The electronics inside are what makes the difference, and typically you pay more for a higher quality monitor. With that said, response times in a monitor, has been fast enough to not be a problem for 5-6 years now. People are stuck in the past.

Regarding brands. You typically want a brand that is reliable, with good warranty and support team. These are ASUS, Acer, HP, Dell, etc. If you haven't heard of it, don't buy it.

~All the best!

 

[fkr]

there is no ips/pls monitor that will have the g2g scaling of an older tn model. but the trade off are vastly superior colors that you get with a ips/pls.

the above poster is also correct about stated g2g times of 1 ms. just go to a site like tftcentral and you will see the large disparity in stated response times and actual. this is not even including the software that is used to get to those speeds and the often times scene ghosting that comes with it.