4ms or 1ms

[geminireaper]

I'm in the process of putting a new build together and also looking at new monitors. Really liking the predator x34 however my friend is trying to talk me out of it due to the 4ms refresh. Keeps pushing me towards a 2k 1ms monitor. Is the 3ms difference really going to make a difference. Strictly gaming and streaming build.

 

[corroded]

it's up to you and your wallet...

Tell them to show you the difference in reality...

 

[thx1138v2]

@4ms refresh it will repaint the display roughly 250 times per second. You probably won't notice the difference between 250 and 1000 refeshes per second. Although it might technically be there, your brain doesn't process the image fast enough for you to see it.

More info: http://www.pcgamer.com/how-many-frames-per-second-can-the-human-eye-really-see/

 

[theyeti87]

In my humble opinion, so long as the display has no more than 5ms input latency it will be great for a gaming display.

 

[cherry blossoms]

Both display types will get you to 120-144 Hz. There will be a very slight effect that may allow you a few ms increased response time if you game at the competitive pro level.

Please also consider color reproduction and off angle viewing. 1ms will be TN....fast, often cheaper, but colors will be more muted and color shifting will occur off axis. 4ms should be IPS (check the specs), with much better color rendition. If you play only dull drab desert themed games, TN is perfect for that. If you like the colors to pop when appropriate, IPS would be the better choice.

3rd, how fast is your video card, and can it even get you to those fast 144hz refresh rates at the resolution you want to play at?

 

[geminireaper]

Well the build I'm looking at is an i7 kaby lake build with a 1080ti

 

[cherry blossoms]

Since you are looking at a gsync setup for 21:9 panels(the x34 / 1080ti combo), the 2560x1080 your friend suggests is irrelevant since there isnt an option for that size TN panels in the gsync realm. Your choices seem to be more IPS vs VA type panels in 21:9.

 

[geminireaper]

Well he is suggested a 27 inch tn monitor

 

[cherry blossoms]

A 27" Gsync TN panel would take you into 16:9 aspect ratio panels geminireaper. All in what you wish, though I assumed you were set on a 21:9 aspect ratio with looking at a X34 Predator.

If you are coming from a 120Hz + panel, the 60-100 Hz(100 with overclocking--IF successful on that panel..not all can reach that speed) May feel a little less fluid, especially at 60Hz, regardless of Gray to Gray response times. If you are used to 60hz, not an issue.

The Gsync does help greatly with less than 60Hz framerates for eveness of frame pacing. Even with a 1080 ti, you will probably appreciate this more with certain titles that will struggle to reach 60 FPS at Ultra settings. To most people, that is MUCH more noticeable than 1ms vs 4ms gray to gray response times.

If you have hyper reflexes and play professionally, I'm sure a 1ms response time may be of some benefit as well as the 144Hz framerate. There is less chance of ghosting if your eyesight and brain response can pick up with that. Are you going to turn down settings in your games as far as needed (like a pro gamer) to reach MAX framerates 100% of the time, regardless of what it does for the visuals, or do you desire some nice visuals as well, even if you get some framerate dips here and there? If you desire pure speed regardless of visuals, then the TN panels are for you. If you would like some nicer visuals and colors, then the IPS panel type would be a better choice.

To help with frame pacing/smoothness, running NVidia Profile Inspector and setting the frame rate limiter to the max your display successfully supports would also be recommended so you don't try to draw frames faster than your display can run. Set this number manually, don't use the menu choices.