~$500 budget first computer

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I don't think that the 1400 is "too powerful" for your build. I also think that even if you don't want to overclock that you should invest in a b350 board (overclockable) over an a320 board (not overclockable) because and should release another 2 generations of CPUs on this platform and by then you may have changed your mind and would need to buy another motherboard. B350s are also generally a bit higher quality than A320.

I have just taken your build, gotten 2 sticks of faster ram and a better power supply and changed case + Mobo to keep price the same
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/xFrQkT
Get a Ryzen 3 1200 build for $25 more that can overclock to match i5-7400~i5-7500 in games. Plus it does have future upgrade options.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 3 1200 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor ($104.88 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI - B350 TOMAHAWK ATX AM4 Motherboard ($70.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2666 Memory ($65.89 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($89.99 @ B&H)
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 4GB Video Card ($154.99 @ B&H)
Case: Thermaltake - Versa H22 ATX Mid Tower Case ($36.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: Corsair - CXM (2015) 450W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($26.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus - DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($16.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $567.70
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-09-14 18:29 EDT-0400
 

blankcr8

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I don't think that the 1400 is "too powerful" for your build. I also think that even if you don't want to overclock that you should invest in a b350 board (overclockable) over an a320 board (not overclockable) because and should release another 2 generations of CPUs on this platform and by then you may have changed your mind and would need to buy another motherboard. B350s are also generally a bit higher quality than A320.

I have just taken your build, gotten 2 sticks of faster ram and a better power supply and changed case + Mobo to keep price the same
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/xFrQkT
 
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Drew_16

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1. I was wondering about the evga b-stock. what exactly does that mean. is it just refurbished.
2. how many more years will this socket be relevant for amd
3. what is a ram speed that is needed to notice significant performance benefits
 

blankcr8

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Evga b stock is refurbished, but it still meets the same performance and reliability standards of a new card. It is pretty much the same as a new card with shorter warranty and a discount.

I believe the am4 socket will be relevant for around 4 years

The biggest performance difference in ram for ryzen comes between 2133 and 2666mhz ram. The 2666 can perform make the cpu perform 5-10% faster than 2133
 

Drew_16

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Ok, have you ever used EVGA refurbished things before?
How would you estimate the performance of this system against an intel 4560, if it compares easily.
does this system have good performance for the money or is there a clear better way to go?

thank you
drew

 

Drew_16

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Thank you very much.
this has given me a lot of info and I think after some shopping around I will put something very similar to this together.

oh and how would you recommend purchasing a window licence?
 

skitszo

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other parts........ lol


PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 3 1200 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor ($104.88 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI - B350 TOMAHAWK ATX AM4 Motherboard ($70.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Crucial - Ballistix Sport LT 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($135.95 @ Amazon)
Storage: SK hynix - SL308 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($77.88 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Zotac - GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 4GB Mini Video Card ($144.99 @ B&H)
Case: Cougar - Solution (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - S12II 620W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($35.89 @ Newegg)
Total: $600.56
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-09-14 20:04 EDT-0400