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$500 Gaming PC Build?

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I'm planning on building my first ever gaming PC system. My budget is around $500.
These are the parts that I have chosen: http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/LtczGX
I already have an OS and peripherals, and I was wondering if this could be improved without going over the budget too much?
Also, I was thinking of pulling my i5 core out of my Inspiron 580s, would that work in my new build or do I have to get a new CPU as well?
Thanks.
 
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Tom has a few good points, but I do disagree with him on a few things. If you wanted to upgrade your current PC I can offer my own suggestions if you'd like.

Otherwise - I'll just reply your other question about purchasing a new motherboard. You're going to REALLY need to be careful and get your socket #s sorted out before you buy anything! You currently have a socket 1156 chip and motherboard, which are not compatible with the much newer socket 1150 chip or motherboard. Yes, it may be possible to purchase a different socket 1156 motherboard, but DON'T do that! You can probably just use your existing motherboard instead - and spending a bunch of money on an older platform like that is not really recommended.
Hey, your old i5 won't physically fit in your new motherboard! It will probably be a socket 1156 chip, whereas the new i5s will be socket 1150. You'll have to get a new one!

If you want to stay in budget, that'll mean you'll have to go with something like this:
http://www.ncix.com/detail/intel-pentium-g3258-anniversary-unlocked-d2-97890.htm
http://www.ncix.com/detail/asrock-z97-anniversary-atx-lga1150-3c-98417-1301.htm
http://www.ncix.com/detail/club3d-radeon-r7-260x-royal-99-104229-1301.htm
or possibly this:
http://www.ncix.com/detail/zotac-geforce-gtx-750ti-lp-48-103837-1301.htm

The other option would be to just toss that last low profile video card I listed in your current Inspiron PC, and save up to upgrade the rest with a nicer CPU later.
 
Would it be cheaper if I just got another ATX motherboard as opposed to getting a new i5 CPU?
EDIT: A different motherboard in the new build, that can fit the old 1150 i5.
 


If your correct on your model this is it: http://www.pcworld.com/product/395307/inspiron-580s-desktop.html then I have to ask why are you making a new build? My guess would be because it is a LOW PROFILE case it is hard to get a good gaming card in it, so the answer would be JUST BUY A NEW CASE! No need to buy a bunch of new parts, your Mobo would / should fit into any standard case.
1) Going off the MUCH CHEAPER route I am suggesting then you just need to 'upgrade what you have' to cut costs. And i5 3rd Gen is still a solid performer, but DEPENDS ON GAME, SETTINGS AND YOUR EXPECTATIONS. If your trying to do the 'Youtube Test' (1080p min 50FPS on High-Ultra on say BF4, WatchDogs, etc.) NO you need to spend over $2000 to achieve those results for those AAAA+ titles, but if your looking for over 40FPS 1080P on Med-High on most common / older titles yeah the i5 3rd Gen is capable.
2) The first thing would be to determine your Motherboard, open up the case, look for the model number and get the manual for it. This will help you identify the type of memory you need, especially the 'timing' of it, which is very important. It says you have 4GB in your Inspiron, I would go with 8GB but that depends if you have only two slots or four. No matter if you just add 4GB more to it (4 slots of 2GB each sticks) or switch to 8GB (2 slots of 4GB sticks) you need to buy them in PAIRS, do NOT do single sticks only. IF you multitask alot (running streaming music, skype, news/weather notices, IMs, checking emails, having several Extensions and numerous tabs in Chrome, etc.) that 8GB will be gone quickly and not enough for games (most need MINIMUM of 4GB just for the Game), you should then consider 16GB instead.
3) You should also either take pictures or find the layout for the Mobo handy so you can plan out the proper case for it, you do not want the RAM stuck behind the HDD case inaccessible, or worse the PSU sticks out just enough to not allow you to install your new GPU, etc.
4) You will need to also know from the MoBo what connections it has for the PSU, you will need a new PSU powerful enough to not only power a new GPU but the other parts.
5) As for GPU, don't waste your time going cheap (NVidia 750Ti for example), you should invest the rest of the money you allocated to the costs of a GPU. I would suggest either the R9s from AMD or a x60, x70 series (760, 670, etc.) from NVidia. These will eat up about HALF your budget, but they will prove VERY worth the investment, again depending on the titles and settings you plan to play.
6) I would recommend, if you can swing it there is some very BIG special pricing, getting a SSD as your main C drive. One big issue your being impacted on is your running a VERY SLOW HDD (5400RPM), which no matter what other changes you do WILL still slow down everything else as the HDD is where the 'code' of all software (games, drivers, Windows, your save files, etc.) is etc. If it take a lonnnnnngggg time to 'read' enough code to do something (draw a tank, make a explosion sound, connect to a website, etc.) then it slow down the rest of the machine. A alternative is cheaping with a $49 1TB 7200RPM drive, there is plenty out there to choose from, which gives you both SPACE and better speed, a SSD would only be 250GB or so, and that would fill up quickly once Windows, Office and first couple games are installed. Is why most people use a second HDD as the main game / storage drive and OS / important programs on the SSD.
7) KEY WARNING "I already have an OS " - If your talking from your Inspiron YOU ARE WRONG. That OS is ONLY usable with a Inspiron 580s, NO OTHER HARDWARE. This is called a OEM copy, one sold BELOW COST / FREE to help sell systems and is CODED to ONLY work with the model sold. IN SOME CASES even changing the PC Case itself NULLIFIES the hardware and Windows will NOT LOAD NOR REINSTALL because it is NOT the right hardware.
You will need to purchase a NEW copy of Windows, preferably a SYSTEM BUILDERS EDITION, which is alot cheaper then 'off the shelf' edition at Walmart / Best Buy. YOU MAYBE able to get away with steps 1-6 (move CPU, Mobo, HDD to new PSU, GPU, CASE) BUT you should be prepared for this being the issue why 'Windows doesn't work'.
 
Tom has a few good points, but I do disagree with him on a few things. If you wanted to upgrade your current PC I can offer my own suggestions if you'd like.

Otherwise - I'll just reply your other question about purchasing a new motherboard. You're going to REALLY need to be careful and get your socket #s sorted out before you buy anything! You currently have a socket 1156 chip and motherboard, which are not compatible with the much newer socket 1150 chip or motherboard. Yes, it may be possible to purchase a different socket 1156 motherboard, but DON'T do that! You can probably just use your existing motherboard instead - and spending a bunch of money on an older platform like that is not really recommended.
 
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+1 to this

 


Thanks for all the great responses so far everyone. Jason, is it the socket 1156 really that old? I don't think I can afford to buy a new CPU (and wouldn't want to if I'd have to get a socket 1150 pentium which is a downgrade imo). I'm planning on only changing the the inspiron's case and power supply, and buying a R9 270x. I'll upgrade the PC piece by piece as I have to, I guess.
 

Thats how my first pc was. I upgrade everything over time until all i had left was the ram, mobo and cpu then I just saved up and bought all 3 togther. However heres this its in your $500 budget. http://pcpartpicker.com/p/gdJ3jX
 
Your current CPU was released in Q1 of 2010 - so that makes it close to 5 years old now. It is a 3.2ghz dual core processor with hyperthreading. The Pentium G3258 actually benchmarks about 20% faster than it on average, more in games. And it's unlocked for overclocking - the poor man's way of getting a faster CPU :)

But yes, if I were in your shoes - I'd probably do this half now, and half in a year or so when I could get an i5 quad core or something. And since you aren't buying a motherboard now, you could probably squeeze a solid state drive into your build too... Honestly, you'll notice the difference of that more than if you were upgrading to a brand new i5. They make everything seem so much quicker.
 
I only have $280 now, and I'm going to buy the case now for sure (NZXT S340 or the Cooler Master Scout 2, which is around 80-100 gone already) What else should I upgrade first? I'm thinking of getting the video card and the respective power supply for it.
 
Yup I think you're on the right track. Case, PSU and video card will be an awesome start - and do your motherboard, CPU, RAM and SSD in a year or two when some new stuff comes out :)

That S340 is a sexy case by the way... unless you take your PC to LANs quite often - in which case having a handle like on the Scout 2 is nice.
 
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i3-4150 3.5GHz Dual-Core Processor ($129.50 @ Vuugo)
Motherboard: MSI H81M-P33 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($49.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($79.99 @ Canada Computers)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($58.89 @ DirectCanada)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 750 Ti 2GB Video Card ($144.99 @ Memory Express)
Case: Rosewill Line-M MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($29.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Power Supply: Antec 450W ATX Power Supply ($19.99 @ Memory Express)
Total: $513.34
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-01-03 00:02 EST-0500