560 Ti or 570 for BF3 Ultra Settings

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Hey Guys,

Iv been mulling over this all weekend and cant come to a decision.
My current PC spec is

4 gig DDR 2 800 MHZ
q6600 Qaud Core 2.4 Ghz STOCK
GeForce 8800 GTS

I understand that my only down fall for playing BF3 is my GPU. I am looking to update this, i want to play battlefield maxed on on ultra settings.
My PC monitor is 22" 1680x1050 which i assume the 560Ti would run, but i wanna HDMI it upto my 40" sony TV, which i assume would be Full HD @ 1920 x 1080.

Iv been looking at the ASUS GTX 570 for £255 (id then have to buy game full price, so looking at £285 or so)

or

Gigabite 560 ti OC WITH FREE battlefield (downloadable) £195,

thanks
 
Well neither will let you play on max settings.The GTX570 will get you closer to that goal but you still will be far from it.You need at least a SLI setup.I'd suggest going with a GTX560ti since you will need a SLI setup anyway the GTX560ti SLI will be enough to max it out.The only problem is that your CPU will bottleneck a GTX560ti SLI.
 

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SLI for me isnt even in the picture so im not worried to much about that. But iv read reveiwsa and even seen on youtube people maxing out BF3 on a single GTX 570?
 

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hey, I'd consider something like an570 for a single gpu solution, however your going to need to overclock your CPU or get a better one. At 2.4gh the 570 will be bottleneck most likely
 
You always here about people wanting to play a game at maxed out , ultra settings and in reality the difference between high and ultra is not that noticeable. The goal should be to be able to play a game and have good looking graphics with no choppyness and smooth gameplay at a reasonable resolution. Playing the game at Ultra is mainly just for bragging rights anyway since you cannot notice the difference between 65fps and 165fps. Anything over 60 fps is just a number.
I do think that you will be happy with the performance of a single GTX 570 at whatever settings will play the game at a smooth frame rate.
 

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im just trying to weigh up justying the extra ££££££ for extra FPS, it seems that the GTX 570 is around 10 FPS better while 33% more £££££, i cant see any justification. Although i am only buying this card for BF3 and those extra 10 FPS could be noticable in gun battles when it dipps to 20 - 30 or 30 - 40 FPS?
 

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for GPU, you will need at least GTX570 but only in 1680x1050. Anything above that you will need more horse power from your GPU. (http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/battlefield-3-graphics-performance,3063-7.html)
But one more thing, your CPU will be your bottleneck. You will need to overclock it to at least 3GHz. (http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/battlefield-3-graphics-performance,3063-13.html)
 

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thanks for your time guys, im currently sat here at 3.30am (UK) still thinking about this. 560 ti + BF 3 for £195 or 570 - BF3 £255, just trying to whey up the £100 difference and i cant come to a conclusion! lol, i seen to be thinkin with the 570 im paying more just because its a newer higher and card... and the 560 ti should be the value buy, but then again why spend £195 if im not going to be gettin what i expect.

Never realy OC'd anything, bit sceared of frying my gear. Does the 570 OC as well as the 560 Ti?
 

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With a strong processor the 560ti can handle max settings minus 4xmsaa with about 40+ fps at 1920x1080. I know this because i have that setup. I actually have 2 but during early drivers and such i ran one card for BF3.

i7 930 @4.011ghz 560ti Hawk edition

That being said, the 570 will handle it smoother mainly due to the additional vram. However i'd recommend the 560ti 2gb version. BF3 noms an vram like it's been fasting for weeks. Even Dice said Ultra textures were designed with 1.5gb vram in mind.

BUT if your on a budget the 560ti 1gb version, i recommend the hawk edition, can handle it very well. hawk edition has a very strong cooler, and comes with a solid oc out of the box.
 

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the HAWK is £200 from what iv seen without battlefield 3, id probably rather just pay £55 more for a 570. Unless the HAWK is ridiculously fast for its price of course

Also by buying and overclocked / superclocked product.... are you not just paying for that service, eg £30 - £40 on top of the price, instead of learning to do it yourself, or is it a more reliable overclock?
 
Like I said before you can O.C. the GTX560ti to meet the performance of a GTX570 at stock speeds.That saves you a lot of money.Just learn someday.The HAWK is a very good card but it also costs a lot more in your area.Don't go for it if your not planning to learn how to O.C. It does have a nice factory O.C. but to not O.C. it more is just a waste.
 
If the choice is resting on a free game then what happens when you are done with the game and the question you should be asking is how long are you going to be playing that particular game. If you buy the 570 then you will be using it for all the games that you will be playing , same goes for the 560Ti. So the real choice should be between the two video cards as to which one do you want. For me I will always go with the better card since I don't want something the is just good enough or can get by with it.
 

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thank you for your imput guys, i have decided to the with the MSI GTX 570 FROZR O/C for £270 (just £15 more than the ASUS GTX 570, and just decided to buy BF3. I figured if im gonna spend £200 on playing BF, Id be stupid not the pay the extra £££ and get the full experience.... will the FROZR be further overclockable (for when i learn)?
 

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iv purchased it now, but i was turn between value and performance, its took me all night (6.20am now) but decided to go with the best incase i wanna hook it upto my HD TV 40", and i am assuming itll play it maxed out.... or atleast i hope for what iv paid
 

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I'm playing it with O/C 570 with ultra except no deferred AA at 50..60fps. I also turned off the motion blur for crisper picture.
 



If you download MSI's afterburner (if it doesn't come with the card you bought) you will be able to overclock the card without any problems , it is one of the better overclocking software.
 

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To update you guys, i ended up canceling the GTX 570 frozr and getting the gigabyte 560 ti OC, which was £100 less. which is now installed,

i can confirm that i am currently running the game on HIGH settings @ 1920 x 1080 which is smooth online, but do get occasional lag, this could be due to server isues as my FPS is 30 - 40 at the time which doesnt indicate video lag, the PU can play ULTRA but will lag in battles. i assume youd need a 580 GTX to max this game.
 
Hey! I own Gigabyte 560 Ti as well. Try overclocking it with MSI afterburner. I got mine to 950 MHz.

Anyway, it should work with all settings on ultra just no AA at all. Try that.

(don't just auto set it to ultra).