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5850 or 5870

xeonyxorich

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Yes,yes I know there are a lot of threads about this, but none of them seem to answer my questions.

Im upgraded from a 4870 and do you think its a worth while upgrade if i got from that to a 5850? I just need a card that game play any game (including crysis) 30 Fps and above at 1920 x 1080. I don't want to crossfire my 4870 because i know that eventually i would buy a Dx11 card so it would be a waste and im not sure if the 5850 is going to last me very long.

 

xeonyxorich

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Im not looking forward to a crossfire rig, only if i have to, but do you guys think a 5850 would be good enough as a single card to handle all games at max 60fps and above and for crysis 30fps and above?
 

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Yea it should be good, i don't think the 5870 is worth the price premium. Maybe you should hold off and see what nvidia has? Even if it is way over priced, if it performs well enough it'll likely decrease the 5000 card prices...even then 5850 prices are gradually going back down. But I can play most new games entirely maxed out, full AA/AF no problem (except crysis...no AA/AF for very high settings around 40 fps)
 

xeonyxorich

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After searching around i totally forgot about the Asus 5850 which will allow me to increase voltages and it can overclock higher than a 5870 overclock which is ******* great
 

xeonyxorich

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No, the point of this thread was to see if a 5850 was good enough. If it wasn't i would have to go with a 5870 and i was for sure the 5870 was all i need. So since i found the asus 5850 i could overclock it higher than the 5870 which would be sufficient for me
 

jonpaul37

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Was just stating that the 5850 is good enough but the 5870 offers more power and will last longer and has a little better OC potential. Don't get me wrong, the 5850 is a beast, but the 5870 is beastlier and would last longer.
 

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From what i have seen, they both seem to top out at about 1ghz, and i like i said before, i don't think the slight improvement (which is even less when they are both at 1ghz) is worth the price. BTW, if you get MSI afterburner, or get a new video bios, you can volt mod any 5850/5870.
 

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If your upgrading from a 4870 than get the 5870, I just got one when I upgraded from a single 4890, it seems like on most benchmarks the 5850 does not offer very much of an increase over the 4890 but the 5870 definatley did
 

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why not crossfire the 4870 with a hd 5870? That would be a pretty powerfull combination
Then later, throw out the 4870 and add another 5000 series
 

Derbixrace

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go for the 5850, the 5870 isnt worth the price premium and you can increase voltage on every 5850/70 brand with msi afterburner and get sick overclocks :) then when games do not run as good as you want anymore you can get another 5850. case closed :D
 

jonpaul37

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Regardless of being able to volt-tweak any 5850 with MSI's afterburner, remember that not all brands are covered for OC under warranty. I know the ASUS brands support overclocking on their warranty as well as MSI's brands.
 

xeonyxorich

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I just ordered the asus brand and if i use their software to overclock it and fry it, i get a new one. Also i could go above afterburner and overclock even higher
 

jjb8675309

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sounds like a good deal I just don't understand what kind of setup you must have to have the need to overclock a high end card like that, excessively, as it is very power at stock. Trying to run a 6 monitor eye infinity setup or something?
 

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I can understand your reason why it so hard to figure out what is good and what is not best.
Now the ATI Radeon 5850 card (I have it) is such the item to have but you have a choice to pick the 5850 or 5870.
Up to you but both cards are great with Crysis and DirectX11. Today's games and the future of games would support DirectX11.
If you wait longer(as you have more money) you can buy the 5870 and still have better FPS in Crysis but only if your CPU is a very good one at that.
You also have to take that in count for everything.

Wish you luck on the video card choice.
 

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5850 is definitely good enough, if you want the 5870 and have the money then sure, but a 5850 + a good OC can beat the pulp out of the entire GTX line & most games (not crysis).