5ms (GTG) vs 5ms

[horsemeAT]

What the title says. Sometimes i come across monitors that say the response time as usual, then some may say exactly the same as others but instead have (GTG) or grey-to-grey next to them. When it says GTG is that basically still the same as when it doesn't say it? is it marketing? Is 5ms GTG as good as regular 5ms for gaming?

 

[ak47jar3d]

Its the same.

 

[Suzuki@1473780084@1473780163]

Same thing, both are fake. The only things that completely gets rid of ghosting on an LCD are Lightboost, black frame insertion and ULMB. The LCD pixels are always lit, which means that the persistance can't get low enough to remove the blur, 120 Hz is twice of 60 Hz, and 144 Hz is 2.4 times less ghosting than 60 Hz. The amount of ghosting is not related to the dynamic response time, it's the static response time that matters, which never changes;

60 Hz = 16.67 ms
75 Hz = 13.33 ms
120 Hz = 8.3 ms
144 Hz = 6.9 ms

The only way to get down to reach a lower static response time is by using either one of the three technologies I listed above. That would be 1-2 ms, which is CRT level of clarity, there is no other way.

It's possible that you confuse response time for input lag, they're not even remotely related to eachother. Response time = ghosting, input lag = delay from input. There's been several people claiming that say 7 ms is worse than 5 ms, which is obviously not true, as you can see above. The number used for marketing, is as fake as it can get. The input lag however, the manufacturers never list anywhere, because it would reduce sales.




All the best!

 

[horsemeAT]

Same thing, both are fake. The only things that completely gets rid of ghosting on an LCD are Lightboost, black frame insertion and ULMB. The LCD pixels are always lit, which means that the persistance can't get low enough to remove the blur, 120 Hz is twice of 60 Hz, and 144 Hz is 2.4 times less ghosting than 60 Hz. The amount of ghosting is not related to the dynamic response time, it's the static response time that matters, which never changes;

60 Hz = 16.67 ms
75 Hz = 13.33 ms
120 Hz = 8.3 ms
144 Hz = 6.9 ms

The only way to get down to reach a lower static response time is by using either one of the three technologies I listed above. That would be 1-2 ms, which is CRT level of clarity, there is no other way.

It's possible that you confuse response time for input lag, they're not even remotely related to eachother. Response time = ghosting, input lag = delay from input. There's been several people claiming that say 7 ms is worse than 5 ms, which is obviously not true, as you can see above. The number used for marketing, is as fake as it can get. The input lag however, the manufacturers never list anywhere, because it would reduce sales.




All the best!

What you named, 60hz, 75hz, etc is all refresh rates not repsonse. Response rate is counted in miliseconds and is completely different from refresh rate.

 

[Suzuki@1473780084@1473780163]

And what does refresh rate mean?

I'm not saying refresh rate = respone time, I'm saying that depending on refresh rate, that'll be your static response time, that'll never change.

1/60 = 16.67 ms

1 new frame will be displayed every 16.67 ms, and for 16.67 ms. This is too high, so you'll notice ghosting, a 60 Hz 1 ms isn't going to ghost less than a 60 Hz 5 ms, point I'm making.




All the best!

 

[horsemeAT]

And what does refresh rate mean?

I'm not saying refresh rate = respone time, I'm saying that depending on refresh rate, that'll be your static response time, that'll never change.

1/60 = 16.67 ms

1 new frame will be displayed every 16.67 ms, and for 16.67 ms. This is too high, so you'll notice ghosting, a 60 Hz 1 ms isn't going to ghost less than a 60 Hz 5 ms, point I'm making.




All the best!

Ah i see what you mean, i didn't know that response time could be calculated from the refresh rate, thanks!

 

[vlad9727]

And what does refresh rate mean?

I'm not saying refresh rate = respone time, I'm saying that depending on refresh rate, that'll be your static response time, that'll never change.

1/60 = 16.67 ms

1 new frame will be displayed every 16.67 ms, and for 16.67 ms. This is too high, so you'll notice ghosting, a 60 Hz 1 ms isn't going to ghost less than a 60 Hz 5 ms, point I'm making.




All the best!

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