6 core AMD VS i7 Intel

[mezal1981]

hai everybody,
i want to ask everybody wthat advantage using 6 core AMD for gaming and intel i7.

 

[mezal1981]

the program i mention before like sc4,autocad, video converter .....i hope with 6 core i can get the benefit from it.

 

[GhislainG]

the new 6 core phenoms are being re fesigned from the ground up, maybe we will see a core i7 killer?

After reading about the new 12 core Opterons, I wouldn't expect the new AMD 6 core desktop CPU to be faster than an Intel i7-980X, but its performance might be close to it at a lower cost. Unlike servers where the CPU cost is not that important, cost often is a decision factor for desktops.

 

[jennyh]

They won't be faster than the i7 980X, but they will be faster than the i7 920 and 930 *for sure* and there is a good chance the top binned 1090T at $300 will beat the 3x more expensive i7 975 EE.

 

[GhislainG]

If the 1090T sells for $300, then Intel will quickly drop the price of the i7-975 EE to stay competitive. This is good news as the i7-930 will have to cost less as well, etc. On the other hand, I'm not sure that a price war with Intel is good for AMD, but it sure is good for customers in the short term.

 

[Raidur]

Aren't we talking about games?

Thuban isn't going to help much in gaming compared to Phenom II x4. I7 quad is going to be the winner there. At least until games become more multi-core optimized.

 

[Pro Llama]

With 2-3k to spend you can build a very powerful rig. I would go with a PII 965, a good AM3 motherboard, 4-8gb of DDR3, a pair of HD 5870, and a good cooling system. You could also get 2 HD 5970 but I don’t think you need all that (I don’t think anyone needs all that) and it would cost half your max budget. If you think you need a better chip after a few weeks, grab a Thuban when they come out.

 

[werxen]

860 + 5890 xfire + 4 gigs of ram + SSD. Done deal. Avoid the 920 for gaming.

 

[Raidur]

860 + 5890 xfire + 4 gigs of ram + SSD. Done deal. Avoid the 920 for gaming.

Avoid the 920 for gaming?

 

[Raidur]

With 2-3k to spend you can build a very powerful rig. I would go with a PII 965, a good AM3 motherboard, 4-8gb of DDR3, a pair of HD 5870, and a good cooling system. You could also get 2 HD 5970 but I don’t think you need all that (I don’t think anyone needs all that) and it would cost half your max budget. If you think you need a better chip after a few weeks, grab a Thuban when they come out.

Phenom II is going to bottleneck 5870 crossfire, even at 4ghz. (Unless you play at 30" resolution of 26x15) :/

 

[megamanx00]

Phenom II is going to bottleneck 5870 crossfire, even at 4ghz. (Unless you play at 30" resolution of 26x15) :/

Or three 1080p monitors with eyefinity

 

[Raidur]

Or three 1080p monitors with eyefinity

Ah yes, or eyefinity.

 

[werxen]

Avoid the 920 for gaming?

Yeah. Won't get any performance increase with 16x pc lanes. Hyperthreading sometimes hurts FPS. 1156 socket is cheaper, runs cooler, lighter on power and best of all you will not notice a difference between the two. The 920, however, comes with an amazing deal: your soul for the next upgrade.

 

[BadTrip]

They won't be faster than the i7 980X, but they will be faster than the i7 920 and 930 *for sure* and there is a good chance the top binned 1090T at $300 will beat the 3x more expensive i7 975 EE.

PROOF that jennyh has lost her mind.

 

[Raidur]

Yeah. Won't get any performance increase with 16x pc lanes. Hyperthreading sometimes hurts FPS. 1156 socket is cheaper, runs cooler, lighter on power and best of all you will not notice a difference between the two. The 920, however, comes with an amazing deal: your soul for the next upgrade.

16x will make at least a 5% difference and the 860 has hyper threading. You'd be silly not to go 1366 with that kind of budget. Especially with the 930 out.

 

[loneninja]

the new 6 core phenoms are being re fesigned from the ground up, maybe we will see a core i7 killer?

No they're not, it's the same base architecture just more cores and a couple minor tweaks. Clock for clock performance wont' go up much if any over Phenom II X4 on a "per core" basis.

 

[BadTrip]

No they're not, it's the same base architecture just more cores and a couple minor tweaks. Clock for clock performance wont' go up much if any over Phenom II X4 on a "per core" basis.

What people fail to realize, with the lower clock speeds they are really gonna suck N*ts!!

 

[mezal1981]

yeh! but right now my point pin like to choose the AMD platform,not intel,yes, is true the I7 core realy on the top of the maoutain.becouse im using the ATI gpu and i like to squeze the AMD chipset.....to the limits......i know about intel,im intel user the performance 5 star i can give.but right now i like to swicth to AMD the intel i like to use as server and AMD as game rig....

 

[loneninja]

yeh! but right now my point pin like to choose the AMD platform,not intel,yes, is true the I7 core realy on the top of the maoutain.becouse im using the ATI gpu and i like to squeze the AMD chipset.....to the limits......i know about intel,im intel user the performance 5 star i can give.but right now i like to swicth to AMD the intel i like to use as server and AMD as game rig....

The point is, a $160 Phenom II X4 955 will get you just as far as a Phenom II X6 will in gaming when clocked the same.

 

[loneninja]

What people fail to realize, with the lower clock speeds they are really gonna suck N*ts!!

I doubt that since they have turbo, even the 2.8Ghz Phenom II X6 scales up to 3.3Ghz which will match all but the 965 in single threaded situations. I just wonder if they'll be capable of 4.0Ghz overclocks, but the real point is single threaded performance won't be up over current Phenom II X4.

 

[mezal1981]

(I doubt that since they have turbo, even the 2.8Ghz Phenom II X6 scales up to 3.3Ghz which will match all but the 965 in single threaded situations.)



maybe, but right now we wait and see,how far the 6 core in the real world. every can say until the 6 core out on the market. but i wonder in the future maybe the 6 core can be minimum requement for computer.....

 

[Pro Llama]

Phenom II is going to bottleneck 5870 crossfire, even at 4ghz. (Unless you play at 30" resolution of 26x15) :/

I don’t know where you get this bs from. Look back to the i5 vs 965 posts; there is plenty of information post to disprove your statement. Unless you actually have any information to support yourself stop reposting the same thing in every thread about crossfire; repeated post of a lie doesn’t make it true.

 

[Tig3r_47]

3000-4000, if i use ATI gpu will it benifit for me,

if you honestly have 2000-3000 spending amount you could practically get anything with Intel the i7's are going to cost you a pretty penny especially if you go over the 930(2.8 ghz), not to mention the cost of a good motherboard. but even at its highest an i7 960 wouldn't even scar you much especially if you combo up on things. However do not forget the accessories your going to need while doing this, a real good monitor that can keep up with the speed of the crossfire 5870"s(if you choose to go with these), Good Memory(which if you have that much money, I would go with 1600 AT least), and get good hdd's too, thats a part alot of people tend to forget, when they say just go with a tb and your good, personally I would go with a tb@7200 rpm(gb/s depends on what your mother boards has) and then get a 160 gb intel ssd, its 550(more or less) but you will notice a load of difference on boot times. Also a very very VERY good case, check your mobo size, and make sure everything will fit, and always check the specs from the manufacturer.
All said from that I hope you enjoy your new system

 

[silvergo]

men get 3 screens while your at it with that price and a g19, etc etc lol jk but crysis aint that demanding, i5 750 will do, and 5870 or 5890

 

[fazers_on_stun]

PROOF that jennyh has lost her mind.

Since somebody already revived this thread : http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/146?vs=99

The 1090T beats the i7-975 in exactly one benchmark - lower power consumption fully loaded. It loses in every other bench, bar none, at stock speeds. Sometimes as much as by 30 - 40%. In fact, it seems most comparable to the i7-920, winning in the heavily threaded benches but losing in the 3dsmax benches.

Haven't seen her post here in well over a month now - she get perma-banned or something? Or just give up on prosetilyzing the great unwashed masses here on THG??