60 fps 1080p recording + editing.

[Thirall]

I would like to have suggestions on what computer build to get. Including 1 monitor, preferraly with g-sync. that can RECORD any game while running 60 fps minimum (at ultra settings). And being able to render/edit videos (so perhaps an i7 cpu).

I would like to have a build for this purpose as my current laptop (750M gpu :/) is not even close to handling this at all...

The price of the build would be how the price ends up. Although I would like to have the build "ready" to expand to 1440p (planning on doing after summer 2016). Thanks in advance to anyone sending your suggestions!

 

[turbopixel]

Here some alternatives, so you don't need to buy a new and expensive computer.

With Nvidia Shadowplay you can record everything with only loss of 1-3 fps or so while gaming. This is a software feature in Nvidia Experience. It can record everything you play through your graphics card in the background (or at any hit of a key), without sacrificing the performance. I don't know how good the quality will be for editing, but it should be not that bad, especially for the price of nothing and you can do that with your laptop.
> http://www.geforce.com/geforce-experience/shadowplay

Another solution would be an external hardware, if your laptop have hdmi output. Then you could use something like HD PVR Rocket, a portable small recorder. You don't need to install or do anything on your laptop other than gaming. It just needs the hdmi output. The good is, everything on your laptop can be recorded, because its an external unit doing the job.
> http://www.hauppauge.com/site/products/data_hdpvr_rocket.html

 

[Justin Millard]

GTX 970 and i5 6600K with 2x8GB of DDR4 RAM should do the job well.
You will get 60FPS 1080P footage, 60FPS in most games at 1440P and the i5 and 16GB RAM are plenty for video editing.

A 256GB or 512GB SSD that you can save videos on to while you are working on them will help a lot with editing speed.

 

[Thirall]

Thanks turbopixel. Although the recording part is not the main issue. It is actually being able to run the game itself (not recording). That is why I am looking for a new build.

I have heard that a 970 can handle pretty much any AAA game 60 fps. But would'nt a i7 cpu like the i7 5820k be better than an i5? Also I forgot to mention that overclocking might be something I wanna have a chance of doing.

 

[Thirall]

This is probaly very poorly made, but I put together something. The msi 970 (said to be the overall best). Ripjaws V RAM (mist popular on pcpartpicker. A samsung 950 pro 256gb ssd. A 650w powersupply (most popular on pcpartpicker. And a x99 motherboard (ready for 1440p, 980ti.)

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/sMKbBm
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/sMKbBm/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i7-5820K 3.3GHz 6-Core Processor ($374.99 @ SuperBiiz)

CPU Cooler: CRYORIG R1 Ultimate 76.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($89.99 @ Newegg)

Motherboard: Asus X99-A/USB 3.1 ATX LGA2011-3 Motherboard ($253.99 @ SuperBiiz)

Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($74.88 @ OutletPC)

Storage: Samsung 950 PRO 256GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($188.95 @ SuperBiiz)

Storage: Western Digital BLACK SERIES 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($74.00 @ B&H)

Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 970 4GB Twin Frozr V Video Card ($338.99 @ SuperBiiz)

Case: Phanteks Enthoo Luxe ATX Full Tower Case ($149.99 @ Amazon)

Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA NEX 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($64.99 @ NCIX US)

Total: $1610.77
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-01-17 07:02 EST-0500

 

[James Mason]

i7s will perform better at video editing, but not better than i5s at playing the game. The i5 is as good as an i7 at playing games.

This is about the cheapest for the most reliable high performance while recording.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: *Intel Core i7-6700K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($413.90 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: *Antec KUHLER H2O 650 Liquid CPU Cooler ($56.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: *Gigabyte GA-Z170-HD3 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($99.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: *Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($74.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Crucial BX100 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($84.01 @ Amazon)
Storage: *Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: *Zotac GeForce GTX 980 4GB AMP! Edition Video Card ($469.99 @ Amazon)
Case: *Raidmax Vortex ATX Mid Tower Case ($38.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: *EVGA SuperNOVA NEX 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($74.88 @ Mac Mall)
Optical Drive: *Lite-On iHDS118-04 DVD/CD Drive ($12.89 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: *Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM (64-bit) ($89.99 @ NCIX US)
Monitor: Acer XB240H ABPR 144Hz 24.0" Monitor ($349.99 @ Micro Center)
Total: $1816.59
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-01-17 12:56 EST-0500

 

[turbopixel]

If you don't overclock and already want to use a graphics card, then you could get a Xeon processor. Xeon can't be overclocked and don't have integraded graphics chip like i5 or i7. But it have hyper threading like i7. And a board with LGA1150 should be enough, as the processor is much cheaper and have similiar processing power like the newer LGA1151 based cpus and in that case, you don't need a good cooler or even water cooler. In my suggestion, you even get the best graphics card on the market, the GTX 980 Ti! If its too good for you, you always can go one or two steps down for GTX 980 (without Ti) or GTX 970. Do you need keyboard, mouse, monitor and sound speaker setup?

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1231 V3 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($242.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock H97 Anniversary ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($71.88 @ OutletPC)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($87.89 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 980 Ti 6GB Video Card ($649.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Antec Nine Hundred ATX Mid Tower Case ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 650W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($83.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($17.78 @ OutletPC)
Total: $1334.47
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-01-17 13:42 EST-0500

 

[Thirall]

I do need a monitor as I mentioned on the first question. Haven't heard of Xeon cpus, seems quite "scary/risky" for me, have to look into that.

 

[turbopixel]

No need to be scary about them. I use myself a Xeon for gaming and other tasks. They are almost an ordinary i7, without integrated graphics chip and it can't be overclocked. Many are using them for gaming. Just search with Google for Xeon 1230 or 1231 and gaming or Xeon vs i7.

 

[Thirall]

Although a xeon can not overclock...

Anyway, woild a overclock really matter to me (1080p 60fps while recording). And then I mean would it help alot, or isn't it really worth it? If it is not worth it I could just get an i7 when I am going for 1440p right?
Also this may seem like a dumb question but can I still overclock my graphics card with a xeon cpu?

Would it be a smart move getting the gtx 980ti for me in terms of performance? Thanks!

 

[turbopixel]

You still can overclock the graphics card, regardless the cpu and mainboard. For overclocking the cpu, you need a cpu with a free multiplier with a K in the name in example; here a Xeon would be similiar to an i7 without free multiplier. You also need a mainboard for doing that, with a Z in the name, like Z97. And then, for doing overclock, you need better cooling for cpu and better case. After doing the small steps of overclocking, you can gain 5 to 10 fps in games in example, if you don't do it to the extreme. Also overclocking will decrease its lifetime. It can make a difference, but not much.

For overclocking the graphics card, you don't need special hardware and cooling is mostly done in graphics card solution. It can be done with any cpu and mainboard. You just need a good one, with good cooling and good overclocking abilities, like the one from MSI and a good and powerful psu. The GTX 980 Ti was just an example what you can get, if you don't buy the newest iteration of cpu and mainboard of LGA2011-3 or LGA1151 based sockets. You could just get the older and a little outdated LGA1150 based motherboards and cheaper cpu and have more money on graphics card.

I use myself Xeon 1230v3 cpu and a MSI GTX 970 for gaming under Linux and Windows and video editing under Linux.

 

[Thirall]

Plus it can turbo boost! Right? This seems bery promising, I'n pretty sure to go over to a xeon. Anyhow, would a 980ti be good, or overkill as I have heard it is overkill in 1080p 60fps for a i7 cpu. Although if it is overkill could it be a smart move to have in terms of a 1440p upgrade?

 

[turbopixel]

The GTX 980 Ti is currently one of the best cards. It depends on your budget. You said, you want later upgrade to a 1440p and the games get more and more demanding. So, if you want keep on playing at the highest quality settings at 1440p with at least 60 fps on the newest games without upgrading the card later, then yes, I would recommend the 980 Ti. For now, it seems to be overkill. It depends on how long you want to use it. For 1080p/60fps and high quality on demanding games today a GTX 970 would be enough. Just think further...

For the Xeon, yes there is turbo boost. Normally turbo boost is active only on one core, if other cores arent't used. On my ASRock motherboard there is a feature to activate turbo boost on all cores. I can't sy how much of an improvement it is and how it compares to regular overclocking with i7 with K and a Z board. I just enabled it, believing in it cannot harm.

My above suggestion was just an idea, a different route. You also could go with a more actual board and socket, so you can get a little better cpu and the upgrade possibility to a better cpu in the future. Then you would start with a weaker graphics card and probably want to upgrade it in near future too. That all depends on the money you have.

 

[Thirall]

What asrock board to you have? Interested in the turbo boost feature. A video I saw by Tech yes city on this cpu had a comment stating he got 4ghz using BLCK on an Asus Z97, he had a picture link:

http://postimg.org/image/bhqromq3p/

Wasn't it that a msi motherboard can oveclock a gpu fairly easily? What do you recommend for a motherboard "upgrade". Pretty sure I will go with a 980ti, as there won't be any hassle getting "rid" of a 970 when the upgrade 1440p time comes.

 

[turbopixel]

I have a Z board, because of the high quality build and quality onboard and all those features like dual bios and the connections. Overclocking was no reason for. It is the:

ASRock Z97 Extreme6 (its like Extreme9 without quad sli gpu feature)

I don't recommend it, unless you have much money left and want the best possible build. I want to recommend you a specific board, but I can't. That is, because I don't know which boards support turbo boost on all cores. The real benefit shouldn't be high.

I can do benchmarks with and without turbo boost on all cores, but I don't know what to test and I don't expect much.

 

[Thirall]

What avout the asus Z97 I found?

 

[turbopixel]

If you think in these terms and are about to buy a Z board, you really should rethink to buy a regular i7 4790K. Its 70 dollar more than Xeon, but it starts with 4.0 Ghz without the need for tricks and you can overclock it easily, where the Xeon is 3.4 Ghz. I just was recommending it, if you want a simple and safe just working setup, which cost less.

To say if the chosen board (also Asus did different boards with Z97 I think) supports turbo boost on all cores, I would need to look in manual for all options. Also I read some manufacturer have disabled that option via firmware update. Thats why I can't say it for now. If I was at home, I would lookup, but not now with my phone.

 

[Thirall]

Although the 4790k for editing? Is that so good? And is 4 ghz the default clockspeed (meaning I can overclock that even more again)?

 

[turbopixel]

Yes 4.0 Ghz is default on i7 4790K. If yougo the overclocking route, then this is the way. But be prepaired they can get hot very fast and you need a good cooler. All that will add cost to the already 70 dollar more expensive cpu against Xeon.

 

[Thirall]

An editing/gaming i7 build I am pretty sure is best either the i7 5820k, paired with a x99 motherboard. But then again, as you said it requires more power and such = more expensive. Pretty unsure about what is the best fit.

 

[Thirall]

Here is something. Put together with a i7 5820k paired with a x99 motherboatd:

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/6kZdK8
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/6kZdK8/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i7-5820K 3.3GHz 6-Core Processor ($374.99 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG R1 Ultimate 76.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Asus X99-A/USB 3.1 ATX LGA2011-3 Motherboard ($253.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($74.88 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO 250GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($94.00 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital BLACK SERIES 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($73.89 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 970 4GB Twin Frozr V Video Card ($338.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Phanteks Enthoo Luxe ATX Full Tower Case ($149.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA NEX 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($64.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $1515.71
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-01-18 10:57 EST-0500

 

[Thirall]

Anyone got any thoughts on which build that is better (the i7 5820k or the xeon build). On the xeon I have a 980ti, and it is 1300 dollars. On the i7 5820k I have a 970 (1500 dollats). Thoughts on maybe it is better to get the xeon (for upgrading later, meaning no switching the gpu, but perhaps the cpu). Or the i7 5820k (getting "rid" of a 970 for a 980ti but keeping a good cpu)?

 

[turbopixel]

If you choose the Xeon, then forget the upgrading. If you want upgrade, then your only chance would be the i7 and then, the difference is not much, plus you should have a Z board for overclocking. I don't know which is better. This is your choose.

 

[Thirall]

Alot of people are saying a x99 build is best for a 5820k:

https://pcpartpicker.com/forums/topic/58353-buying-the-intel-core-i7-4790k-should-i-go-with-a-z97-or-an-x99-mobo

Anyway, I do "some" editing, not hardcore, mostly because I do not have the capture to edit. I want to be able to make about 10-20minute videos. Is it a good choice for me to get a 5820k, or perhaps something more suited for gaming (higher clocks)?

 

[turbopixel]

Gaming is more on the graphics card side. Also, rethink about my first answer here with alternative capturing. Then, no matter what graphics card and cpu you have, you can record everything without sacrificing performance. So, now its up to you.