60 hz monitor (with gsync/freesync) vs 144 hz monitor (without)

[threemsnap]

I understand that gsync and freesync are useful if you have a 60 hz monitor and are gaming at over 60 fps, as it eliminates tearing. But, if you have a 144 hz monitor and are gaming at over 60 fps (as long as you stay under 144 fps) will there be no tearing? Will there be other issues instead?

I guess at heart this question is helping me decide between:
www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236313
(144hz)
www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824025112
(60hz with freesync)

So I would love input on which of these two monitors you think is better as well

Thanks

 

[Ohh OriginaLz]

I have not used the G-Sync/Freesync monitors but from my experience on my 144Hz monitors when I play CS:GO at 300FPS [Limited it to 300] I see no tearing whatsoever. I would go for the 144Hz it changes your gaming experience and makes the games seem smoother.

 

[Suzuki@1473780084@1473780163]

If you can push 100+ frames, on a high refresh rate monitor, you don't need GSync or FreeSync. Tearing happens both above and below your monitors refresh rate. The monitor has a locked response time of 6.9 ms at 144 Hz. Your graphics card doesn't. If you go above (far above) 144 FPS, you'll get even more tearing, because you increase the chance of the monitor wanting a frame while the GPU is copying it's frame from the back buffer to the frame buffer. However, a high refresh rate monitor (provided you can push 100+ FPS), is going to reduce your perception of tearing, because the frame that is tearing will be shown on screen for less than half the time it normally would, on a 60 Hz display.

~All the best!

 

[threemsnap]

If you can push 100+ frames, on a high refresh rate monitor, you don't need GSync or FreeSync. Tearing happens both above and below your monitors refresh rate. The monitor has a locked response time of 6.9 ms at 144 Hz. Your graphics card doesn't. If you go above (far above) 144 FPS, you'll get even more tearing, because you increase the chance of the monitor wanting a frame while the GPU is copying it's frame from the back buffer to the frame buffer. However, a high refresh rate monitor (provided you can push 100+ FPS), is going to reduce your perception of tearing, because the frame that is tearing will be shown on screen for less than half the time it normally would, on a 60 Hz display.

~All the best!

Thanks, but if I went below 100 fps would there be perceived tearing? Is that the minimum threshold to avoid tearing?

Also, if you are playing with 100+ fps, wouldn't you want to turn up game video quality, even if the fps suffers a little, because isn't 100+ fps excessive?

 

[Suzuki@1473780084@1473780163]

I used 100 as an example. The higher you go, the less obvious the tearing becomes. For most people this is 100 and above, even when you look for it, it's going to be really hard to notice. To me, GSync and FreeSync is a joke, to those that have really expensive rigs. Mainly because they already have the graphics power to reach these high framerates. Yet people claim you need to buy an expensive monitor so that you won't "bottle neck" your graphics card(s). It's all backwards.

If you've never used a high refresh rate monitor, you're in for a treat. Starting from 60 FPS, it'll start getting gradually smoother, until that 144 FPS mark. This is incredible helpful to most people, because you completely remove visible (what is known as) ghosting. This is what you might notice on 60 Hz displays, a lot of people don't. A real world example, rather than getting deeper into the tech bit. In a game like Counter-Strike, or maybe League of Legends. There is a lot of things going on at once, correct? By using a high refresh rate monitor, everything is incredible sharp, even during the fastest turns, or action in general. On a 60 Hz display, what you get is very noticeable blur, this is because no matter what the marketing teams of X brand is telling you regarding response time. In the end, a 60 Hz display is limited to 16.67 ms. Another real world example you might be able to try yourself, is to use your mobile phone, and turn on the video camera. Lower the FPS (if you have that option) and play your recorded video back. Do the same thing again, but at a higher FPS. The video will appear much smoother. This is what's going to happen up to 144 FPS. Again, provided you can push 61+ (preferably 144) FPS.


~All the best!

 

[Lesh]

I understand that gsync and freesync are useful if you have a 60 hz monitor and are gaming at over 60 fps, as it eliminates tearing. But, if you have a 144 hz monitor and are gaming at over 60 fps (as long as you stay under 144 fps) will there be no tearing? Will there be other issues instead?

I guess at heart this question is helping me decide between:
www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236313
(144hz)
www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824025112
(60hz with freesync)

So I would love input on which of these two monitors you think is better as well

Thanks

You will get better experience with 40-75 fps synced setup, then with high-end (over 100 fps) unsynced. I am using currently LG34UM67(EDID modified down to 40Hz range) with R9 290. It's absolute smooth. Just limit max fps to max FS range, to stay always in FS range.