780 FTW Problems

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Hello, I have been using a gtx 780 FTW edition (model 03G-P4-3784-KR) for about 5 months now. It was a very large investment, and I expected a very large improvement while playing games like battlefield 4 over my old 6870 that I replaced. Yes I did get a very large improvement (Averaging around 50 fps on ultra 1080p) but not as much as I expected for a 500 dollar card at the time. But with a couple of Google searches I came to the conclusion that maybe I had just had my hopes too high and that I was actually getting the typical performance. It is October now and the 900 series has just been released. Currently I am running on my Asrock Z77 Motherboard (Z77 Pro4) using an i5 3570k clocked at 4.2 GHz using a hyper 212 that keeps the temps under control. I have 16 gigs of DDR3 Dual channel ram running at 667 MHz, as well as my graphics card (the 780) all powered by my OCZ power supply (Model OCZ-ZS750W). My friend who is running his new gtx 970 (GTX 970 GAMING 4G) paired with a i5 4670k clocked at 4 GHZ with his msi motherboard (model B85-G41) and corsair Vengeance (model CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9B) 16 gigs of ram powered by the same power supply as above. We decided to test our fps on Battlefield 4 multiplayer and the differences were ridiculous. We both used fraps to monitor our fps and both monitored our temps and clock speeds with our own programs (me using the EVGA Precision). My power was up to almost 100% and the gpu clock was at around 1100, his being clocked around 1300. Although yes his is newer hardware, I was averaging around 45-60 fps while he was averaging around 85-110. First thing I thought was that I had a vsync thing turned on somewhere which I did not, and we even went into out Nvidia settings and compared and made sure we had the exact same settings. But still even after that he was averaging around 30+ more fps than I was. Upon googling more, seeing youtube videos people were receiving much more fps than my average with the same specs at 1080p gaming. I decided to run a couple of benchmarks using other programs one being 3d mark and the other being catzilla (720p on catzilla). He tested his using catzilla and received a score 23865 (http://www.catzilla.com/showresult?lp=350837). But when I tested I received just over 8300(http://www.catzilla.com/showresult?lp=350839 sorry if you have to log in). I did run one more test using 3d mark (http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/4250079?). These results say that everything is running perfectly fine, (which I know is incorrect). I contacted EVGA support asking what I could do and they responded saying I could try the other bios setting on the graphics card. I tried it out, and is the current graphics bios I am running on, it gave me a slight increase in performance but the 3d mark benchmark, catzilla benchmark and various game tests came up relatively close with only a few fps/score performance. And obviously through all this testing I tried all the basic fixes including things like uninstalling all drivers before getting a new card (I used a drive uninstaller and made sure everything was clean). My bios is updated and my Window 7 64bit is updated. Because of everything I have tried, it makes me think that it could possibly be a hardware fault, but I’m not sure what could be the culprit. I’m up for trying many things and if I missed anything that could potentially help out, don't hesitate to tell me what to add. But in summary my question is, what is holding my card back or is it just the card itself?

By the way, If this is in the wrong area, I apologize this is my first post I have ever made on here. Thanks for the help everyone.

 
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you say your card is clocked at 1320mhz. if your looking at what clocks valley if reporting, valley is reporting wrong. use gpuz or msi afterburner to log your correct core clocks.

otherwise, your 2400 score sucks, it is very low so something is not right.

http://www.wagnardmobile.com/DDU/downloads.html

go there, download the latest display driver uninstaller, let it run in the recommended clean safe restart mode. then reinstall nvidia drivers. if you ever had an amd video card installed, also run it for amd. do not run it for intel.

as far as your bf4 frames, what settings are you running? is this at 1080p? i get similar, actually slightly better, frames running the game at 1440p. we are looking at the raw output here. but...

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Are you certain you posted the speed your RAM is operating right. DDR3 does not run at 667MHz. If it actually is thats your reason right there. Check to see if you have an XMP profile option in your BIOS, if so set it to 1600.
 
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use bf4 frame time analyzer for fps logging, dont use fraps.

your 3dmark firestrike score of 10086 looks normal for your clocks. my 780 at 1300mhz? got almost 12000 for the graphics score... dont care about the overall, physics, or combined score. i have never ran catzilla so i couldn't tell you. but i can tell you that the 970 is not that much faster than the 780 and there is no way he is getting anything more than 4 to 5 fps more than you. you can try running unigine valley on the extreme hd preset and report your score by. my best on valley was like 3349 at 81fps, but your likely to be around 3000 overall score, not sure what fps that gets, it depends. give it a run and report back.
 

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http://puu.sh/bYlfG/1c3ba9c207.jpg My Valley benchmark is on the left his on the right. My Card is Clocked at 1320mhz. So this is showing that our cards are fairly close i guess. and this is our battlefield 4 reports, not sure which one you needed http://puu.sh/bYlyO/ee92aaef41.jpg (his is on the left, mine on the right). And as for the ram situation, I just typed it wrong these are my actual speeds http://puu.sh/bYlD9/6c5f563e29.png.
 
you say your card is clocked at 1320mhz. if your looking at what clocks valley if reporting, valley is reporting wrong. use gpuz or msi afterburner to log your correct core clocks.

otherwise, your 2400 score sucks, it is very low so something is not right.

http://www.wagnardmobile.com/DDU/downloads.html

go there, download the latest display driver uninstaller, let it run in the recommended clean safe restart mode. then reinstall nvidia drivers. if you ever had an amd video card installed, also run it for amd. do not run it for intel.

as far as your bf4 frames, what settings are you running? is this at 1080p? i get similar, actually slightly better, frames running the game at 1440p. we are looking at the raw output here. but your not doing bad in that game, with about 97% of your frames above 60fps. but you should be closer to 99%. you can make a bf4 cfg file to limit frames above 75fps if you would like, actually i limit mine to 59.84fps.... but for the sake of the bf4 frame analyzer, running 75fps in the cfg file helps to narrow down issues until they are sorted out.

your ram is running at 1333 speed there. 667x2. in your bios there should be a section that shows the intel xmp settings, or a ram ratio multiplier of 16.000, along with other options like 13.333 what its at now, ant 18.666, etc. but i can tell you right now, your ram speed has nothing to do with your gaming performance that you are having right now. but if we could know the exact make and model number of your ram chips we can know exactly what its capable of as far as its speeds and timings.
 
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