Question 7800x3d temps

[Ahsyed]

7800x3d temps range? I wanna test mine so what software should I use for that?

 

[Phaaze88]

7800x3d temps range?

89C and lower.

I wanna test mine so what software should I use for that?

You're going to panik once you load up all the cores, like everyone else who didn't read up on Ryzen 7000's behavior did.

 

[Ahsyed]

89C and lower.


You're going to panik once you load up all the cores, like everyone else who didn't read up on Ryzen 7000's behavior did.

Mine right now is at 45 idle.. seems a bit high considering ambient is around 12 and cpu cooler is ak620 mostly at 900rpm
With my case fans at 1200.
Just wanna know if I didn't mess up thermal paste since I had some issue with that so maybe need to reapply?

Qnd my pc on sleep doesn't wake up with mouse/keyboard interaction. Not sure why

 

[Phaaze88]

Mine right now is at 45 idle.. seems a bit high considering ambient is around 12 and cpu cooler is ak620 mostly at 900rpm
With my case fans at 1200.
Just wanna know if I didn't mess up thermal paste since I had some issue with that so maybe need to reapply?

You're saying the case ambient, is 12C? The room ambient must be even cooler... that's a bit chilly for my sensitive bones.


You're seeing an AVERAGE of the CCD, but at most, it's just one or two cores, shooting up to max core clock, to finish whatever little task requested of it, in literal milliseconds. When done, clocks/temperature/voltage all drop down.
This happens over and over.

 

[Ahsyed]

You're saying the case ambient, is 12C? The room ambient must be even cooler... that's a bit chilly for my sensitive bones.


You're seeing an AVERAGE of the CCD, but at most, it's just one or two cores, shooting up to max core clock, to finish whatever little task requested of it, in literal milliseconds. When done, clocks/temperature/voltage all drop down.
This happens over and over.

Not case but room. I am running cenebench24 multicore cpu benchmark right now. I am afraid I overapplied the paste or had to move it so maybe messed it up. Case fans are like a plane as is.. I set them to pwn and they are always 1100 plus rpm right now they are at max rpm during bench mark.. way too loud for my liking.

 

[Ahsyed]

So 10 mins cinrbench 24 on cpu multicore score was 1076 with max temps 80c. But its thr idle or little task that spike my temps that worry me. Like my case fans ramp up if for example I start an upload of an app.
From 40ish to 60 for split second. Is that normal, and how do I curve my fans rmp to be lower... way way too loud for me

 

[Phaaze88]

Not case but room.

Ok. Case amb is always higher. 10~15C wouldn't be unusual. A cooler's low load and max load will be influenced by that.

I am running cenebench24

It's a mistake to do that IF it doesn't reflect your daily use. Ryzen 7000 plays differently the moment you load all the cores.
It becomes a game of keep away from 89C, and you score more points... but 89C in itself isn't even the danger zone for the cpu.
The motherboards don't know that though, that's why they ignore fan curves when you exceed a certain point.

I am afraid I overapplied the paste

Mounting pressure squeezes out any excess. The purpose of the paste is to fill in pits, too tiny for the naked eye, that would otherwise be occupied with air. Heat energy doesn't travel through air filled pits as well as it does paste filled ones.

But its thr idle or little task that spike my temps that worry me.

I assure you, that's nothing to worry about and is well within the cpu's specs. That spiky, load load behavior has been the norm since Ryzen 3000 series - Ryzen 5000 does it too.

how do I curve my fans rmp to be lower

A)With an air cooler, you have to find a balance of fan rpm to noise between both the cpu cooler's fans and the case fans that you can accept.
Set your case fans' curves as high as you can personally tolerate, then adjust the cpu cooler's fans accordingly.
At the roof of the case: do NOT have a fan(s) in front of the cpu cooler. It's a common mistake(?) made with cpu air cooler builds that disrupts the air being fed into the cpu cooler, usually in favor of slightly more effective gpu temperature, or looks... or both.

B)Get an AIO, and you can brute force Option A, without tweaking around all your fan curves. Top mounted exhaust is fed by case ambient air, front mounted intake is fed by room ambient air. Both have pros and cons, so there is no best.
Top mounted intake only really works in setups with a gpu that ISN'T dumping its waste heat inside the PC.

 

[hotaru.hino]

If you absolutely cannot stand seeing the temperature spikes, which also happens on Intel CPUs, then you have to disable turbo boost by either enabling the option to do so in Windows or setting the maximum CPU power state below 100%.

Otherwise the temperature spiking is normal behavior, because there's always some housekeeping to do which a single core or two can take care of, which triggers maximum turbo boost, which causes that part of the processor to heat up.

 

[Ahsyed]

Ok. Case amb is always higher. 10~15C wouldn't be unusual. A cooler's low load and max load will be influenced by that.


It's a mistake to do that IF it doesn't reflect your daily use. Ryzen 7000 plays differently the moment you load all the cores.
It becomes a game of keep away from 89C, and you score more points... but 89C in itself isn't even the danger zone for the cpu.
The motherboards don't know that though, that's why they ignore fan curves when you exceed a certain point.


Mounting pressure squeezes out any excess. The purpose of the paste is to fill in pits, too tiny for the naked eye, that would otherwise be occupied with air. Heat energy doesn't travel through air filled pits as well as it does paste filled ones.


I assure you, that's nothing to worry about and is well within the cpu's specs. That spiky, load load behavior has been the norm since Ryzen 3000 series - Ryzen 5000 does it too.


A)With an air cooler, you have to find a balance of fan rpm to noise between both the cpu cooler's fans and the case fans that you can accept.
Set your case fans' curves as high as you can personally tolerate, then adjust the cpu cooler's fans accordingly.
At the roof of the case: do NOT have a fan(s) in front of the cpu cooler. It's a common mistake(?) made with cpu air cooler builds that disrupts the air being fed into the cpu cooler, usually in favor of slightly more effective gpu temperature, or looks... or both.

B)Get an AIO, and you can brute force Option A, without tweaking around all your fan curves. Top mounted exhaust is fed by case ambient air, front mounted intake is fed by room ambient air. Both have pros and cons, so there is no best.
Top mounted intake only really works in setups with a gpu that ISN'T dumping its waste heat inside the PC.

Thank you very much for thorough reply and assuring me .

I did have to pick up my cooler because like a dumb person I forgot to remove the sticker... so instead of cleaning paste I put a bit more in middle of cpu and put cooler on top (struggled to settle it also) so my mind is worried I might have trapped air in there. However I might be paranoid about it.

32 to 40 idle seems excessive for a 12c room temp that's what I think. And I am not sure about the fan curve (1st build in 10+ years) so trying to learn as I go . My old pc temps are still 30c idle which is 12 or so years old but it could be newer cpu run hotter especially its 1st amd for me.

lian like 216 case seems very air flow oriented also.I have no fan on top of case just the 2 infront and the 2 fans of cpu cooler than come with ak620. And a back fan of case. The air flow is amazing but it is loud and I will play /learn the curve of fans to find a balance.

Gonna leave it as is for now and use it and see how I feel in few days.

Thank you very much for help.

 

[Kona45primo]

Just chill bro .. everything is going to be ok. It can also take some time for paste to "cure". Everything will work it's way out. Don't touch anything, well, maybe pet a cat or something to get your mind off of you're totally fine PC.

Also take a look at your case fan curves and reduce them so the loud fans aren't quite so triggering.

 

[Ahsyed]

Just chill bro .. everything is going to be ok. It can also take some time for paste to "cure". Everything will work it's way out. Don't touch anything, well, maybe pet a cat or something to get your mind off of you're totally fine PC.

Also take a look at your case fan curves and reduce them so the loud fans aren't quite so triggering.

Thank you , i will do exactly that,

the Case fans are set to temp source as CPU , I should change it to system right?

Also perhaps off topic but when PC goes to sleep , IT doesnt respond to mouse / keyboard , my mouse and keyboard light up but PC requires Power button to boot up , That is something i could use help on!

 

[Kona45primo]

For the case fans you can still have them as CPU bound but I'm sure there is a motherboard software that allows you to find tune the fan curve to something less aggressive

As far as wake goes, You can set it up the way you want l. Maybe in device manager or power settings. Google should give a few options one should work.

 

[Ahsyed]

For the case fans you can still have them as CPU bound but I'm sure there is a motherboard software that allows you to find tune the fan curve to something less aggressive

As far as wake goes, You can set it up the way you want l. Maybe in device manager or power settings. Google should give a few options one should work.

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I changed them to system for case fans , But apart from my pc not booting up , the restart time is also very slow, atleast couple of minutes. Could it be my ssd related? how do i check if my ssd is working well? i got Crucial p5 500gb very cheap (25 euro) i hope it is legit ( was on amazon ).