7870 GHz edition vs 660 Ti -- Price worth it?

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bloodymaze

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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202010
SAPPHIRE 100354OCL Radeon HD 7870 GHz Edition 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 CrossFireX Support Video Card

194.99



Or


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127711
MSI N660TI-2GD5/OC GeForce GTX 660 Ti 2GB 192-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card

239.99




1.) Question is which is the better option for games?


2.) Will I see a considerable increase in performance for 45$?

Note: Not concerned about it "being bad" considering it has a warranty for a reason, I hear some crash etc and blue screen out, but it happens with a lot of electronics...



 
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This thing with the 192 bit bus on the 660 gtx not being good on 1080p is totally incorrect.

http://tpucdn.com/reviews/ASUS/GeForce_GTX_660_Ti_Direct_Cu_II/images/crysis2_1920_1200.gif
http://tpucdn.com/reviews/ASUS/GeForce_GTX_660_Ti_Direct_Cu_II/images/bf3_1920_1200.gif
http://tpucdn.com/reviews/ASUS/GeForce_GTX_660_Ti_Direct_Cu_II/images/shogun2_1920_1200.gif
http://tpucdn.com/reviews/ASUS/GeForce_GTX_660_Ti_Direct_Cu_II/images/maxpayne3_1920_1200.gif
http://techreport.com/review/23981/radeon-hd-7950-vs-geforce-gtx-660-ti-revisited/6

As for the question, in my opinion, it's worth the extra $.

drinkingcola86

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It really depends on your resolution you play at and how much you want to turn up AA, which once again will depend on your resolution.

at 1440x900 I would roll with the GTX 660Ti. At this resolution it performs very will with almost everything turned up in most games since it doesn't hit the 192 bus limit by the memory.

However, the higher the resolution the more you need that memory band width which the GTX 660Ti or GTX 660 don't have at its stock clocks.

But if your looking at their stand of performance at its stock speeds the 7870 will usually be close if not on top of the 660Ti.
 
This thing with the 192 bit bus on the 660 gtx not being good on 1080p is totally incorrect.

http://tpucdn.com/reviews/ASUS/GeForce_GTX_660_Ti_Direct_Cu_II/images/crysis2_1920_1200.gif
http://tpucdn.com/reviews/ASUS/GeForce_GTX_660_Ti_Direct_Cu_II/images/bf3_1920_1200.gif
http://tpucdn.com/reviews/ASUS/GeForce_GTX_660_Ti_Direct_Cu_II/images/shogun2_1920_1200.gif
http://tpucdn.com/reviews/ASUS/GeForce_GTX_660_Ti_Direct_Cu_II/images/maxpayne3_1920_1200.gif
http://techreport.com/review/23981/radeon-hd-7950-vs-geforce-gtx-660-ti-revisited/6

As for the question, in my opinion, it's worth the extra $.
 
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My 660Ti's run everything at max @1080, what limitations am I supposed to be seeing? :heink:
 

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My reference to it not being enough is when you go beyond 4xAA. Which has been shown on Toms when they did their review of the 660Ti. Once when you go to 1080p and with beyond 4xAA it falls with out an overclock.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-gtx-660-ti-benchmark-review,3279.html

Edit: I know also that new drivers came out for both camps and both cards have seen big improvements. the 12.11 beta drivers for AMD are very good and boosted my fps in battlefield by 20 fps on my 7950. Not sure if its the same boost that the 7870 got though.
 

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Technically the GTX660Ti is supposed to be compared to the 7950, not a 7870, however the 7950 after overclocks and the 12.11 Drivers absolutely stomps the GTX660Ti in terms of raw speed, not to mention it's higher memory bandwidth bus and more memory. However the GTX660Ti is obviously superior to a 7870, I'd get the 660Ti just because of the extra technologies that come with it, and extra raw speed is always a plus, plus considering you're most likely spending 1000+ dollars anyway, whats an extra 40?
 

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I did a lot of research on the current AMD 78XX cards, and finally bought one (HIS Turbo 7850) several days ago. I would strongly suggest you go with the nVida card...or a different 78XX. This Sapphire card is on clearance for a good reason.
 
Oh yes, i didn't look what was the 7870, it's the sapphire 7870 ghz edition, which is troubled by freezes/black screen problems.
http://www.techpowerup.com/174858/Some-Sapphire-Radeon-HD-7870-Cards-Affected-by-quot-Black-Screen-quot-Issue.html
http://www.sapphireforum.com/showthread.php?30188-RMA-Information-for-HD7870-Ghz-OC-with-black-screen-issues&s=f5894d35af17ae8dfe1a0a8b3d6a39bb

See a recent user review on newegg :

"Cons: Crashes randomly, black screen

Other Thoughts: Whoever said that if you have an SKU higher than 11199-03 you shouldn't have issues is incorrect. I have an SKU of 11199-19 and the card has serious problems. Probably won't buy from Sapphire again."


So you're really want to go for the 660ti.
 
Personally, I've been using Sapphire products since the Radeon X1900, never had a problem with them, they are the best partner for AMD.

And actually each company got a problem once a time, the permanent bad impression goes for non actually.
 

If he got the money for the Asus one, he could buy a GTX 670 with that Price, hell I saw the EVGA GTX 680 for $369 but the deal ended yesterday.
 
Good point if he wants to be a cheap skate this is a kick ass card http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127702
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130833&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-na-_-na-_-na&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID=#top
OR
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127681&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-na-_-na-_-na&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID=#top
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161404
 

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I remember back then when i mention about the gtx 660ti i damn near got my head chopped off now its a good card..My opinion as the few months ive had it yes the memory bandwidth/memory bus could be higher yes but for the card it is its not to shabby and gets the job done and will hold you over untill your next upgrade.
 

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Those are still GTX 660's.

From what I know all stock GTX 660 Ti's will outperform the 660's...



So the consensus seems to be that the GTX 660 Ti is the way to go despite the update in drivers for the 7870 GHz edition...

Thank you folks :)
 
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