Question 7950x idle clock speeds at max

[omer168]

Hey, I bought a new PC yesterday with 360mm AIO with 7950x and I noticed that my clock on idle is 5.2ghz - 5.3ghz and temps are around 60c - 70c

I have Auras Aura, hwinfo64, and Ryzen Master are open

my mobo is ROG STRIX X670E-E and corsair i150 elite lcd xt

https://prnt.sc/1DJhUiZPT16W This is what hwinfo64 showing
and https://prnt.sc/HC3dq4xy_jSx
task manager https://prnt.sc/yb8beR1stQNk - nothing using the cpu but its still on 5ghz+
and power plan set to balanced

what should I do in order to lower the idle clock speed and temps?

 

[COLGeek]

Is Ryzen Master applying an overclock to the CPU?

 

[omer168]

Is Ryzen Master applying an overclock to the CPU?

No I just downloaded it to check the clock

 

[CountMike]

No I just downloaded it to check the clock

Check with windows in safe mode.

 

[omer168]

Check with windows in safe mode.

The clock stuck on 4.5ghz

 

[drea.drechsler]

The clock stuck on 4.5ghz

In HWInfo look for the Core Clock sensor readings. Right click on each of the core clock sensors and click on Show Graph to monitor the core clock in a chart on the desktop. That way you can see how each core is actually boosting/idling through time.

It's typical for Ryzen CPU's to frequently boost cores to maximum clock speed for very light processing loads and even when the system seems idle. It's not running all cores at max clocks constantly but with so many cores at least one might be boosting to max at any given point in time. Many utilities report the max clock of individual cores as the clock of the CPU so it will appear the CPU's stuck at max clocks to that utility.

If the graphs are showing all the core clocks as a constant 4.5-5Ghz and never dropping lower then reset CMOS and try checking again. But one of HWinfo charts you posted shows a minimum clock for most of the cores as 3.1Ghz which is typical for idling so I tend to doubt the charts will be constantly high for any cores unless there's a light background task running you're not aware of, which is possible with Gigabyte Aura and Ryzenmaster running.

 

[omer168]

In HWInfo look for the Core Clock sensor readings. Right click on each of the core clock sensors and click on Show Graph to monitor the core clock in a chart on the desktop. That way you can see how each core is actually boosting/idling through time.

It's typical for Ryzen CPU's to frequently boost cores to maximum clock speed for very light processing loads and even when the system seems idle. It's not running all cores at max clocks constantly but with so many cores at least one might be boosting to max at any given point in time. Many utilities report the max clock of individual cores as the clock of the CPU so it will appear the CPU's stuck at max clocks to that utility.

If the graphs are showing all the core clocks as a constant 4.5-5Ghz and never dropping lower then reset CMOS and try checking again. But one of HWinfo charts you posted shows a minimum clock for most of the cores as 3.1Ghz which is typical for idling so I tend to doubt the charts will be constantly high for any cores unless there's a light background task running you're not aware of, which is possible with Gigabyte Aura and Ryzenmaster running.

Thank you for helping me
I took a few screenshots from hwinfo
some cores are on 5.4ghz and some 3.1ghz even though there is no load
I have Asus ROG STRIX X670E-E GAMING WIFI all on default
and I changed the PBO to eco mode on 105w

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[drea.drechsler]

Thank you for helping me
I took a few screenshots from hwinfo
some cores are on 5.4ghz and some 3.1ghz even though there is no load
I have Asus ROG STRIX X670E-E GAMING WIFI all on default
and I changed the PBO to eco mode on 105w

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What's important to see is how the core clocks are over time, that's why you show the clocks of each core in a graph to see it.

Also, Windows is NEVER idle. There are literally hundreds, if not thousands, of processes running all the time. While most are idle some are always going active and asking something of the processor. The way Ryzen works is it raises a core's clock to max for a brief instant to do whatever it wants to get it done fast. Then it's on to the next thing that Windows pops up.

Setting it to ECO mode won't do much about this. The way Ryzen's boost algorithm works is completely different from Intel's. If coming from an Intel platform you have to forget pretty much everything you knew.

And lastly in addition to Window's plethora of processes which are relatively well behaved there may be a lot more going on that you aren't considering. Gigabyte's Aura for instance, like all motherboard utilities, is known to be very poorly coded and could have any number of background processes running wild and leeching on processor cycles. You have to clean up the background apps by removing (uninstalling) anything and everything that's unnecessary.

 

[omer168]

What's important to see is how the core clocks are over time, that's why you show the clocks of each core in a graph to see it.

Also, Windows is NEVER idle. There are literally hundreds, if not thousands, of processes running all the time. While most are idle some are always going active and asking something of the processor. The way Ryzen works is it raises a core's clock to max for a brief instant to do whatever it wants to get it done fast. Then it's on to the next thing that Windows pops up.

Setting it to ECO mode won't do much about this. The way Ryzen's boost algorithm works is completely different from Intel's. If coming from an Intel platform you have to forget pretty much everything you knew.

And lastly in addition to Window's plethora of processes which are relatively well behaved there may be a lot more going on that you aren't considering. Gigabyte's Aura for instance, like all motherboard utilities, is known to be very poorly coded and could have any number of background processes running wild and leeching on processor cycles. You have to clean up the background apps by removing (uninstalling) anything and everything that's unnecessary.

I understand thank you for the explanation,
I will try to eliminate all the tasks that are not needed and all the Asus stuff and I'll test it out

I am coming from Ryzen 3700x I thought that 7950x would be the same
with 3700x I had a power plan and when I set it it would go down to 1 - 2ghz and up to 4ghz when he needed

 

[drea.drechsler]

I understand thank you for the explanation,
I will try to eliminate all the tasks that are not needed and all the Asus stuff and I'll test it out

I am coming from Ryzen 3700x I thought that 7950x would be the same
with 3700x I had a power plan and when I set it it would go down to 1 - 2ghz and up to 4ghz when he needed

Be sure to also disable the services that that Aura installs as they will probably remain.

My 5800X more eagerly boosts than my 3700X, it makes sense 5th gen will be even more eager.

Something else to look at in HWInfo are some sensors called "Effective Clock", which is by thread (so there's 32 of them!). Effective clock is the average of a core/thread clock across the polling period with respect to sleeping states. That means it's considering when the core/thread is actually in a sleep state. If you look at the effective clocks of your processor you can see that it's averaging less than 2Gig even for the most active cores/threads; no where close to the max clocks you're thinking.

I'm not sure what you are trying to do by imposing ECO mode or what your concern is, but the CPU simply isn't stuck at max clocks like you think it is. You're just not looking at the data in HWInfo correctly in order to determine that for such a dynamic processor.

But that said: if you look at core useage there's one that's averaging around 40% and several others in the 20's and 30's. That's a lot for an "idle" system; it must be doing something you're not aware of. Definitely ferret out any leeching processes and kill/delete them. Look in Task Manager's Processes and Details tabs to help with that.

 

[emitfudd]

Just wanted to chime in and say enjoy it. We used to have to delid our processors and OC them to even hit 5GHz. My 5900X regularly peaks to 4.95GHz. That is completely stock with no overclocking and only a hair less than my 7700K that I had to delid and never got it above 5.0GHz.