[SOLVED] 80c temperature: ASUS ROG RX Vega 64 still ok?

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Yeah so this is still going on with my GPU, I still find it strange as the temps used to be 75c all the time and now it's 80c all the time.

I know the cause is that the fans don't automatically spin up higher than 2400rpm's whilst gaming, this even happens still after a clean windows install. ( tested recently)

Maybe there is still something that can be done, but only things I'm willing to try is things that don't make it worse.

Using default profile in amd control panel currently, and If I were to set a manual profile then the fans can still spin up to 4000rpm and cools the gpu right down, but this is not what I'd like and I post here to find a better solution if anybody has any idea what I can do to remedy this issue, without making a compromise, then lets hear what you got for me.
 
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So, that is an architecture that released like 6 years ago AND had some known thermal issues including for some models the use of the wrong product for the thermal pads IIRC. I don't remember what brand or exact model had those problems with a problematic thermal pad but in general any graphics card that has been in pretty frequent use for anything like 4-6 years is probably not the worst candidate for replacement of it's thermal pads or paste anyhow.

If 2400rpm is the maximum those fans will run, and you are still seeing a 5°C higher max temp than what you used to, it could be pads/paste, it could be a higher ambient temperature in the room you are in due to a change in your thermostat or change in season, or it could simply be that...
So, that is an architecture that released like 6 years ago AND had some known thermal issues including for some models the use of the wrong product for the thermal pads IIRC. I don't remember what brand or exact model had those problems with a problematic thermal pad but in general any graphics card that has been in pretty frequent use for anything like 4-6 years is probably not the worst candidate for replacement of it's thermal pads or paste anyhow.

If 2400rpm is the maximum those fans will run, and you are still seeing a 5°C higher max temp than what you used to, it could be pads/paste, it could be a higher ambient temperature in the room you are in due to a change in your thermostat or change in season, or it could simply be that there has been some level of degradation to the hardware (Which totally happens as electronics age) which is creating a bit more heat to maintain the same level of performance that it used to. Practically all electronics eventually begin seeing elevated temps to do the same job as they age, to some degree or other.

I'd say it's really not a problem because you are still well within spec of 85°C, but if you want to see a bit more cushion so to speak then you might either change the thermal pads or paste, yourself, or if you're not comfortable with that then perhaps take it to an electronics or PC specialist who is. I can't imagine they'd charge anything too unrealistic to do this job for you if you had your own pads and paste. I might charge somebody like fifty bucks to do this, if that, but I'm a bit more realistic than most shops and I don't have their overhead so I wouldn't be surprised if my idea of a fair price is unrealistic to them.
 
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So, that is an architecture that released like 6 years ago AND had some known thermal issues including for some models the use of the wrong product for the thermal pads IIRC. I don't remember what brand or exact model had those problems with a problematic thermal pad but in general any graphics card that has been in pretty frequent use for anything like 4-6 years is probably not the worst candidate for replacement of it's thermal pads or paste anyhow.

If 2400rpm is the maximum those fans will run, and you are still seeing a 5°C higher max temp than what you used to, it could be pads/paste, it could be a higher ambient temperature in the room you are in due to a change in your thermostat or change in season, or it could simply be that there has been some level of degradation to the hardware (Which totally happens as electronics age) which is creating a bit more heat to maintain the same level of performance that it used to. Practically all electronics eventually begin seeing elevated temps to do the same job as they age, to some degree or other.

I'd say it's really not a problem because you are still well within spec of 85°C, but if you want to see a bit more cushion so to speak then you might either change the thermal pads or paste, yourself, or if you're not comfortable with that then perhaps take it to an electronics or PC specialist who is. I can't imagine they'd charge anything too unrealistic to do this job for you if you had your own pads and paste. I might charge somebody like fifty bucks to do this, if that, but I'm a bit more realistic than most shops and I don't have their overhead so I wouldn't be surprised if my idea of a fair price is unrealistic to them.

I read you load and clear, Just got some concern because I think it's driver control panel related because it only happens with my gpu when gaming, I can load up a miner app just to test and with that the temps remain at range all the time, I would like to maintain the gpu myself but lack the tools and pads and such and I still don't think this is the issue , it might be, but highly unlikely, so what I'm going to need help with is to fully uninstall the driver and then reinstall the latest driver package to get out from this bug.

Some help with that please.
 
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Thank you, I'll take a look at that as well.

I've noticed that when installing the latest driver package from amd, there isn't an option to factory reset the gpu anymore during the installation, curious?
 
It never worked right anyhow, which is probably why the removed the option especially since the DDU works exactly as it should. Just be sure that you boot into safe mode and then run the DDU, and if you've had more than one type of card EVER installed on the OS you are currently using, run it twice, once for each type of card, and THEN install your new driver package, AFTER a reboot following completion of the removal (Or multiple removals) using the DDU.
 

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So I maintained my gpu by uninstalling the hardware out of my case and doing a decent clean, by the looks of it the card still looks like it's brand new.

Havn't played yet for the day but later tonight I might see what my temps are reading now.

And I did not do the DDU software uninstall, rather try some other methods first.
 
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If there were other methods that were more successful, or even just worked, believe me, I'd have recommended them. The Wagnard tools Display driver uninstaller has been around for more than a decade and is the most well regarded of all the available solutions when it comes to managing a full removal of all previous graphics card driver and registry settings.

But I totally get it. Sometimes you have to figure it out for yourself. And, it's always possible you don't HAVE a problem that requires a clean install, although, I generally do so and recommend it prior to any driver update. It's just too common for both AMD and Nvidia driver packages to screw something up. So, good luck to you either way man.
 

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If there were other methods that were more successful, or even just worked, believe me, I'd have recommended them. The Wagnard tools Display driver uninstaller has been around for more than a decade and is the most well regarded of all the available solutions when it comes to managing a full removal of all previous graphics card driver and registry settings.

But I totally get it. Sometimes you have to figure it out for yourself. And, it's always possible you don't HAVE a problem that requires a clean install, although, I generally do so and recommend it prior to any driver update. It's just too common for both AMD and Nvidia driver packages to screw something up. So, good luck to you either way man.

Just for interests sake, do you believe that there might be some older registry entries still present, even after I formatted my pc, and reinstalled the os and driver clean in one go?

Because if that is at all possible then I'd give the DDU tool a try, but at this point I have no inclination that makes me think that it would make any difference to my gpu current temps.

To avoide any other issues, is also what I have to keep in mind. (point being that the main purpose of these finding a better solution to my temp issue is that I want to play games more than what I'd like to be fooling around with settings)

Update: I played some GTA V online and had the settings all the way maxed out for my gpu, like always, but tonight I saw a small change in the behavior of my gpu or driver, now I'm seeing 79c~80c all the time, not just outright 80c ( this is now after I did some cleaning of the hardware ) the fan rpm's are still not spinning up automatically beyond 2400rpm's, but I can apply a manual profile and have the temps in acceptable range in mere seconds, but then the fans go up and down in rpm's like it's Christmas.
 
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