850$ pc build

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What would be a good 850$ pc build?

Preferred CPU: amd fx 8-core am3+ 8350

Monitor, os and keyboard/mouse/headset/controller not needed.

Parts from Amazon

Edit: By the way I'm using for mainly gaming.
 
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Hey,
Rather than re-work my $900 build to meet $850, I'll just link it and explain a few things about that:
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/21a7N

If you totally hate it, at least it's a rough guide.

Intel vs AMD problem:
The problem I encounter when building a PC currently at the $850 price point is that if I want the i5-4670K I run out of money for a graphics card.

However, if I get a good graphics card I don't have enough money for the i5. So... that forces me to either look at one of the LOCKED i5's which is fine but only saves me $40.

Or I can get an AMD CPU, but all of the AMD CPU's have bottleneck issues in many games, even the FX-8350 which is maybe $40 cheaper than the i5.

*So at $900, I can get the great i5-4670K which would...
Just FYI, but the i5-4670K is a better CPU for gaming; it varies between roughly 0% and 30% difference but only a few games are similar to the i5 and of those they all have some stutter due to single-core performance that's worse on the FX-8350. That's been tested to death.

Just so we can put the inevitable discussion to bed, here's a benchmark to look at, though again many games are closer: http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/2013/06/12/intel-core-i5-4670k-haswell-cpu-review/5

Not only did the FX-8350 perform poorer on average in Skyrim, but the single-core performance caused the game to run at HALF that of the i5 even with an overclocked 8350 at 4.8GHz versus stock i5 (using 100Watts more power BTW).

You can play around with pcpartspicker.

I'll post that and build an i5 system, then you can swap my CPU and motherboard if you wish. If you'd said it "absolutely" had to be an FX I'd build you an FX.

I'll post this and make a build.
 

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It doesn't "have" to be an fx, it's just that the fx is cheaper, and still performs good on multi-threading, such as playing BF4 and all that, and I'm saving up for a good GPU. But no, it doesn't "have" to be an FX.
 
PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/219X7
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/219X7/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/219X7/benchmarks/

CPU: AMD FX-8350 4.0GHz 8-Core Processor ($199.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock 970 EXTREME4 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($99.49 @ Newegg)
Memory: AMD 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: MSI Radeon R9 270X 2GB Video Card ($197.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: NZXT Source 210 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair Enthusiast 650W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NS95 DVD/CD Writer ($15.00 @ Newegg)
Total: $752.42
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-11-12 06:55 EST-0500)
 
PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/219Yw
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/219Yw/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/219Yw/benchmarks/

CPU: AMD FX-8350 4.0GHz 8-Core Processor ($199.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock 970 EXTREME4 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($99.49 @ Newegg)
Memory: AMD 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon R9 280X 3GB Video Card ($299.99 @ Amazon)
Case: NZXT Source 210 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair Enthusiast 650W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NS95 DVD/CD Writer ($15.00 @ Newegg)
Total: $854.43
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-11-12 06:57 EST-0500)
 

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Good enough, but I'm looking for an 850$ pc build, leaving me a lot of money. Any upgrades?
 
PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/21a97
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/21a97/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/21a97/benchmarks/

CPU: AMD FX-8350 4.0GHz 8-Core Processor ($199.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock 970 EXTREME4 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($99.49 @ Newegg)
Memory: AMD 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: MSI Radeon R9 270X 2GB Video Card ($197.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: NZXT Phantom 410 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($79.99 @ Mwave)
Power Supply: Corsair Enthusiast 750W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NS95 DVD/CD Writer ($15.00 @ Newegg)
Total: $812.42
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-11-12 07:11 EST-0500)
 
PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/21aaD
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/21aaD/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/21aaD/benchmarks/

CPU: AMD FX-8350 4.0GHz 8-Core Processor ($199.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock 970 EXTREME4 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($99.49 @ Newegg)
Memory: AMD 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($99.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: MSI Radeon R9 270X 2GB Video Card ($197.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: NZXT Source 210 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair Enthusiast 650W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NS95 DVD/CD Writer ($15.00 @ Newegg)
Total: $852.41
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-11-12 07:13 EST-0500)
 
Hey,
Rather than re-work my $900 build to meet $850, I'll just link it and explain a few things about that:
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/21a7N

If you totally hate it, at least it's a rough guide.

Intel vs AMD problem:
The problem I encounter when building a PC currently at the $850 price point is that if I want the i5-4670K I run out of money for a graphics card.

However, if I get a good graphics card I don't have enough money for the i5. So... that forces me to either look at one of the LOCKED i5's which is fine but only saves me $40.

Or I can get an AMD CPU, but all of the AMD CPU's have bottleneck issues in many games, even the FX-8350 which is maybe $40 cheaper than the i5.

*So at $900, I can get the great i5-4670K which would would last you fine through another graphics card, and the GTX760 which is pretty good. I'd love to see the Asus GTX770 in there but it's another $80.

Other:
- no SSD (wasn't in the budget) but you can CLONE to one later
- case: I picked one with good reviews, fairly cheap, supports USB3 front, and has a GAP between drive trays for long graphics cards.

GAMES:
Just FYI, but the GTX760 has two new games and the GTX770 has three new games (Batman Arkham Origins, AC4, and SC Blacklist).

Summary:
Good luck with your build. Regardless of your final build, I hope you find this at least useful.
 
Solution
PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/21ah4
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/21ah4/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/21ah4/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($239.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Asus Z87-A ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($139.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 760 2GB Video Card ($249.99 @ Microcenter)
Case: Corsair 300R ATX Mid Tower Case ($64.99 @ Microcenter)
Power Supply: Corsair Enthusiast 750W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NS95 DVD/CD Writer ($15.00 @ Newegg)
Total: $909.93
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-11-12 07:23 EST-0500)
 
PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/21ahO
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/21ahO/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/21ahO/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i5-4570 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($199.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Asus H87M-E Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($97.24 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 760 2GB Video Card ($249.99 @ Microcenter)
Case: Corsair 300R ATX Mid Tower Case ($64.99 @ Microcenter)
Power Supply: Corsair Enthusiast 750W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NS95 DVD/CD Writer ($15.00 @ Newegg)
Total: $827.18
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-11-12 07:25 EST-0500)
 


It's not for overclocking, the fan is noticeable in idle and very loud when gaming. The $25 cooler I linked makes a huge difference in noise. Cheers.

I do recommend Windows 8.1 64-bit OEM and Start8 ($5). Anyway, I'll say my final goodbye and link you to a video of the FX-8350 vs i5-3570K. The i5-4670K would perform slightly better. You probably already decided, I just think it's a good video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICVeN6WEGgg
 


Overclocking is pretty overrated IMO, and good build. tell us how it goes!