8800 GTS poor performance ????

Armanox

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Well my sistem is listet in my sig so dont need to write all again.
Is it true that im having slow fps or is it that much ppl lie about
their performance.
Maybe its because i have only 1GB of ddr2 but i hope to get the
answer here.

A little overview:
S.T.A.L.K.E.R. runs at 1024x768 all max without aa or af @ 40 fps
FEAR runs at preety much same max settings witout aa or af @ 1024x768 @ 40-50fps

In 3dmark 06 i get 7240 3dmarks when all settings are at stock but when i
overclock the processor (from 1,86 to 2,97Ghz) i get around 8300 3dmarks.

I expected a little bit more of performance because i see lots of ppl talking
about they running games above 80fps...

Like i said maybe i need 1 gb more of ram so that would be a jump to
where my sis. actually belongs. Hope to get the answer here

Thx to all who help. I appreciate it
 

Armanox

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My sig is not displayed so i paste my specs here:

Intel Core 2 E6300
Gigabyte 965P-DS3
1GB Ocz Plat. XTC
Leadtek 8800GTS 320MB
Hitachi 160GB
Samsung 21" 1100p+
Logitech G5
Logitech x510

Thx
 

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Getting a second gig of ram will help.But you need to make sure all the settings in your mb bios are set properly.Also you need to make sure that you install the graphics drivers with your anti-virus disabled.If you do not disable the anti-virus,then the graphics drivers do not configure properly and you end up with poor performance numbers sometimes system crashes as well.Basically uninstall graphics drivers.Reboot system into safe mode.Then install the graphics drivers.Reboot again,this time normally,then run 3dmark again and try running games and see if it helps improve performance for you.Goodluck.P.S.Return that lead weight you have and purchase either a BFG 8800gts or an EVGA 8800gts.

Dahak

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3DMARK05 13,471
 

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Also make sure you don't have the hardware VSync turned on in the NV control panel. It basically tries to limit the card to only put out the same FPS as the refresh rate of your monitor.
 

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@Dahak i installed the newest drivers without any antivirus so that isnt the problem

and @ T8RR8R my monitor runs at 1280x1024@100Hz so it could be possible to run to 100fps even with VS enabled...

Where can i find the properly settings for my bios? Its now at default settings and i didnt change anything...

I hope to get this fixed, but seems to me that actually this is the performace this sys can do. Can it be that others a lying about the fps or am i stuck with my wrong bios settings?
 

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Or can it be that my sistem is underpowered with a low budget 400W PSU that came with the Codegen Briza ??? ???

I am low on money now, but want to know what to buy next month. Thx to all who help, i hope someone with more exp than me will know what to do
 

Dahak

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OH ouch.Buy another power supply dude.Get at least 550watt with 30amps on the 12volt rail,minimum.

Dahak

AMD X2-4400+@2.6 TOLEDO
EVGA NF4 SLI MB
2X EVGA 7950GT KO IN SLI
4X 512MB CRUCIAL BALLISTIX DDR500
WD300GIG HD/SAMSUNG 250GIG HD
ACER 22IN WIDESCREEN LCD 1600X1200
THERMALTAKE TOUGHPOWER 850WATT PSU
COOLERMASTER MINI R120
3DMARK05 13,471
 

pauldh

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1024x768 on a 21" CRT with a GF8800! That's a shame. 8O

Can't speak fro stalker as I haven't installed it yet, but you should be getting way better performance in Fear.
 

Armanox

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1024x768 on a 21" CRT with a GF8800! That's a shame. 8O

Can't speak fro stalker as I haven't installed it yet, but you should be getting way better performance in Fear.
Well im still trying to figure out why... u are not much of a help.

And do other ppl agree with that i need a better psu?
 

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what are specs of the psu (the amp readings)???

400 does seem low, but if the +12V rail has 28-30 amps, then it would run fine.

I run my system on a 380 watt psu (e6600, 2gigs ram, x1950 pro, 250 ghb hdd, 5 case fans), but its a good make

im not sure if the 8800gts requires the same or more power, but a new psu would definitely not harm you in any way.


But yeah, your in game scores seem quite low indeed. I can get any where from 70-350 fps in fear while running around a map in multiplayer.

you are using windows xp right??
 

Dahak

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Thermaltake,Antec,Acepower,....etc...There are several makes and models to chose from.You don't particularily need high wattage,just high amperage.At least 30amps on the 12volt rail.But at least 500watts.I would go higher to be safe.Just a little bit.Goodluck.

Dahak

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ACER 22IN WIDESCREEN LCD 1600X1200
THERMALTAKE TOUGHPOWER 850WATT PSU
COOLERMASTER MINI R120
3DMARK05 13,471
 

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Did you post this question in the FEAR Tech forums ? If so I answered it there.

If you are like me and some other people the problem is with the G5/7/11/15 Mice and keyboard and FEAR
http://forums.vugames.com/thread.jspa?threadID=33244&tstart=45.

For me (G15), It's only really noticeable under Vista (both 32 and 64), but you can see a little of it with XP and in games like Doom3 and HL2, but the affects aren't nearly as bad as Vista and FEAR. (From 120-130 to 39-50) even settign FEAR t the lowest settings, the results barely change.

Easy test is to grab a cheapo PS2 mouse and unplug the G5. In my case, all I have to do is unplug the keyboard and my framerates triple.

According to people who spoke with Viendi's Tech Support, it's something with the way FEAR interacts with the USB ports and demands pure performance. I dunno. All I know is if I have the KB plugged into any USB port it kills performance and that KB won't work the the PS2 port. I have the Logitech meda Keyboard and can plug into the same ports and it works fine.
 

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Well my sistem is listet in my sig so dont need to write all again.
Is it true that im having slow fps or is it that much ppl lie about
their performance.
Maybe its because i have only 1GB of ddr2 but i hope to get the
answer here.

A little overview:
S.T.A.L.K.E.R. runs at 1024x768 all max without aa or af @ 40 fps
FEAR runs at preety much same max settings witout aa or af @ 1024x768 @ 40-50fps

In 3dmark 06 i get 7240 3dmarks when all settings are at stock but when i
overclock the processor (from 1,86 to 2,97Ghz) i get around 8300 3dmarks.

I expected a little bit more of performance because i see lots of ppl talking
about they running games above 80fps...

Like i said maybe i need 1 gb more of ram so that would be a jump to
where my sis. actually belongs. Hope to get the answer here

Thx to all who help. I appreciate it
u know...my rig is like this:
E6400(stock)
2gb low performance ram 667 5-5-5-15
8800gts 640mb
asus p5nsli
320gb hdd
17' - 1280 x 1024
purepower 250w thermaltake dedicated ps GPU
thermaltake 430w

got 7800 3dmark 06
after mild oc to 2.66mhz got 8300
smooth FEAR n stalker with all max setting 8aa 16anis

well i suggest you to try putting 2gb ram n see ur 3d06 mark

from my opinion ur 3d06 mark is normal,because my fren have rig like this:
PD 3.0 stock
1gb 533 ram
320gb hdd
leadtek 8800gts 320mb

n his score 3dmark06 is 6800...
 

Armanox

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My cpu is stock because if i overclock it i consumes even more power, right?

My readings of the psu are

3,3V ... 5,5V ... +12V ... -5V ... -12V ... +5V
----- ... ----- ... ------ ... ----- ... ------ ... -------
20A ... 25A ... 16A .... 0,5A ... 0,8A ... 2A


under the 3,3V and 5,5V is a value of 160W MAX

under +12V is nothing just a stupid line

under -5V and -12V is a value of 9,6W MAX

and under the last +5V is again nothing just a line

------------------------------------------------------------------
last value is under everything & says 400W


My cam is broken, i would post a pic...

Anyone got smarter after this readings?
 

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Well, I agree getting a better PSU is ideal. But Shouldn't he be getting some Crashes to Desktops or BSODs or something other than slow performance in FEAR ?

Also, If I can run FEAR with a AMD 4800+ and X1900XTX and get over 100FPS with all settings to MAX. Why would a E6300 and 8800 perform worse ? He's 1200 points higher in 3Dmark06 then I am

Granted this review is using a QX6800 Cpu, but the X1950XTX is only runnig about 10 fps faster than my X1900XTX, which tells me the CPU isn't that big of a deal in FEAR, at least for the benchamrk
http://www.tomshardware.com/2007/03/21/matchless_muscle_overclocked_8800/page6.html

Sure the E6300 won't totally feed the 8800, but he should be getting alot better. Plus he noted in his post he's already push that puppy to 2.9Ghz and gt a 8300 on 3dmark06
 

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OMG please dont tell me to turn my pc off and wait for about 1month to buy a new PSU.

I hope i get some money asap and get a better psu, but since i live in croatia my choice is limited to a smaller number of psu-s, and they cost much more then in your countires.

I searched for any psu with more than 30A on a 12V rail and the cheapest one i found is 121€.

Its not easy for me to collect such an amount of money since ive spend all on the other components :( :cry: :cry: :cry:
 

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Well, I'll have to take you're word for it, as I never ran with an under power PSU.

I would just expect more stange behavior from a system that lacks power, espeically when he's overclocking.

Again, if he's PSU specs are right, he's way under powered. Which is why I would expect to hear more of, system crashes, Porn doesn't play right etc etc.
 

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Oh geez a 16A PSU trying to power a 8800? 8O You should definitely get a new PSU as soon as you can.

Until then though, you could just find the cheapest graphics card there is so you can at least use your computer (although not for games) until you can get a new PSU. Maybe you could get one used from a computer store for a few €? It doesn't even have to be PCI Express, it can just be some lousy PCI card. Just a thought.
 

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Thank u all guys im definitly gonna try to find one shitty graphic card... till i get my new psu.

I will shut down my sistem and wait till i have some money for a decent psu.

Im gonna check here every day... since i have a celeron (lol) at my office.

Again thx to everyone who helped.

Who knows maybe i would lost my comp. without u guys. Thx 10000 times :(
 

mad_murdock

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I say poohie on Enermax ! Actually, that was the first brand of PSUs I ever bought.

But in order to say "Can't go wrong", then you can only mention the PC Powering and cooling line of PSUs. Where else can you spend $500 on a PSU ? And there is just something about saying "I got a kilowatt" that drives all the girls wild !

Not that it would be a cleaner solution, but couldn't he use one of those external power units ? I know one of the big names where selling them
 

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