9600 256 mb v/s 128 mb

valkyr

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hi,
i m gonna buy a 9600 pro......in some time

http://www.pricewatch.co.uk/results.asp?MinPrice=1&MaxPrice=1000&Category=&Orderby=Price&Keyword=ati+9600+pro&Brand=

now i m confused........how can a 256 mb card be cheaper as compared to 128 mb one?

1)which is the best bet compared to those? hercules,sapphire,gigacube?

2) i also got a dude sellimg me a 9600 np for dirt cheap price,
he tells me tht the newer 9500's have a difff core so they cant be modded to
a 9500 pro [ok i knw what's newer?]

so which should i go for guys?
 

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Clicky to above:

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1. Neither the 9600 Pro nor the 9600 non-pro can take advantage of 256 megs of memory, so go with the better chips (The 9600 Pro)

2. If you don't want to overclock much or want to save a few bucks go with the Sapphire Atlantis. (I'd contact the vendor to make sure what the specs are for the Atlantis though) TheGreatGrapeAPe tells us that the specs on different Atlantises vary.

3. If you want a truly overclockable card pay the $20 extra for the Herculese 9600 Pro.

4. The 9600 non-pro is "newer" than the 9500 non-pro. However, the 9500 non-pro is indeed slightly faster and is <font color=red><i><b>POTENTIALLY</i></b></font color=red> moddable to a 9500 Pro or 9700 non-pro. Having a successful 9500 mod are about the same chances of flipping a coin & it landing on "heads".

5. How much is he willing to sell his 9600 non-pro for?


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One day a game will use or need 256mb of graphics memory. When that day comes the card itself would have to be very fast indeed in order to process all that extra data. The 9600pro is not fast enough really to be able to perform good when these games come out, so the extra memory is almost useless (although it will help a little).

So basically unless a card has the power, the extra memory is useless. Its like giving a geforce mx 128mb ram and expecting it to do amazing things... You may see an extra 1-5fps at 1600x1200 with anti aliasing on etc but thats hardly worth the extra cost that comes with having a 256mb card at the moment.

The new cards and even a 9800pro or xt with 256mb ram may be a good choice later on for a game like half life 2 using high resolutions and anti aliasing. These cards have the power to make use of the extra memory and get upto 10fps extra over a standard 128mb card.

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10 FPS improvement in which game, Quake 3? Everything you have said was comepletely true, except for that one part,depending on which game your were in reference to my British chap. I haven't seen any benchmarks showing the 256 meg version of the Radeon 9800 Pro having any significant lead over the 128 meg card. Like you said though, the only circumstances where there is any lead AT ALL, is at the Highest resolutions on the highest Antialiasing & Ansiotropic filtering settings.

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valkyr

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I guess i m not much of a clocker.......but am definitely
willing to try out my luck with modding [:D]

the non pro is going for a 25 quids off the retail price
n its still packed......
 

valkyr

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Picked tht term from a lousy frnd of mine....:)
he offering me 25 pounds off the retail price....
so it comes to around.......75-80 pounds

since my budget is around 150 pounds i m tinkering with
the idea of getting a 9700 np......since i am unable to
fing the technical spec........sud some one post it up plz,

n 9700>9600pro right.......or the diffrence is not much?
 

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No current graphics card can make real use of 256 MB VRAM.

Don't waste money after a 256 MB card

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The new cards and even a 9800pro or xt with 256mb ram may be a good choice later on for a game like half life 2 using high resolutions and anti aliasing. These cards have the power to make use of the extra memory and get upto 10fps extra over a standard 128mb card.
I think in a game like half life 2 at 1280x1024 4x anti 4x ani there would be upto 10fps difference on a 9800 128mb card to a 256mb version. Thats just my guess though. Simply because of all the extra data that has to be processed, having twice as much of it right next to the gpu ready to be processed would help this game and later games a lot. Kinda like unreal 2003 at 1600x1200 maximum visual settings theres like a 3fps difference, but HL2 is a lot more complicated and would benefit more at the higher resolutions...


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