A build for a friend.

[d00mdragon]

I have two build set up for a friend on that is sub $900 the other is $1500. Wanted to know if I got everything right and if they are good solid setups to propose to him. I am planning on using newegg to buy the parts.

$900
Biostar TZ77XE3 LGA 1155 Intel Z77
Intel i5-3570K Ivy bridge
Corsair HX650
western digital black wd1002faex
cogar solution black atx case
asus 48x cd romdrive
windows 7 64bit
G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800)
XIGMATEK eXTREME SILENT Series XSF-F1252 120mm Case Fan x4
SAPPHIRE 100355-1GOCL Radeon HD 7850 1GB 256-bit $175
or
SAPPHIRE Radeon HD 7750 1GB 128-bit $99

$1500
NZXT Phantom 410 CA-PH410-B3 Black Steel
ASUS SABERTOOTH Z77 LGA 1155 Intel Z77
SAPPHIRE 100351SR Radeon HD 7970 3GB 384-bit
CORSAIR HX Series HX750 750W ATX12V 2.3 / EPS12V 2.91
Intel Core i5-3570K Ivy Bridge
G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800)
Western Digital WD Black WD1002FAEX 1TB
asus 48x cd romdrive
windows 7 64bit
COUGAR CF-V14HB Vortex x2
Noctua NF-P12-1300 120mm Case Fans x2

still new at making builds so just wanted to know how these builds are.

 

[feeblepenguin]

Definitely go for the 7850 on a $900 build. I would even try to fit a 7870 le/xt, or a 7950. You don't need to spend $170 on a mobo. You can get a xfire/sli z77 for $100 - $130. Spend the excess money on gpu. BTW Getting a 7750 on a $900 build is like putting a honda fit engine in a mustang.

 

[stickmansam]

You can definitely get better price/perf parts for the $900 build
Nice asus board with sli
only 550w psu
7950 Boost
8gb of 1866 ram
1tb hdd, caviar black are not faster (they only have a longer warranty [which implies higher quality but not necessary])
Great build for 1080p ultra maxed out

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($209.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: Asus P8Z77-V LK ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($119.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Patriot Viper 3 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($47.98 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($64.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7950 3GB Video Card ($289.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master Storm Enforcer ATX Mid Tower Case ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($54.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224BB DVD/CD Writer ($15.98 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $913.89
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-03-24 16:04 EDT-0400)

Here is an slightly above 1.5k build
better mb
better cooler
better PSU
an SSD +2tb of HDD
CFX 7970
Great build for a triple screen 1080p setup

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($209.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 612 PWM 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($52.85 @ Compuvest)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z77X-UD3H ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($139.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Patriot Viper 3 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($47.98 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($89.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Sandisk Ultra Plus 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: XFX Radeon HD 7970 3GB Video Card (2-Way CrossFire) ($369.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: XFX Radeon HD 7970 3GB Video Card (2-Way CrossFire) ($369.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master Storm Enforcer ATX Mid Tower Case ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair Enthusiast 850W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($109.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224BB DVD/CD Writer ($15.98 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $1576.73
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-03-24 16:10 EDT-0400)

 

[d00mdragon]

You can definitely get better price/perf parts for the $900 build
Nice asus board with sli
only 550w psu
7950 Boost
8gb of 1866 ram
1tb hdd, caviar black are not faster (they only have a longer warranty [which implies higher quality but not necessary])
Great build for 1080p ultra maxed out

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($209.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: Asus P8Z77-V LK ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($119.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Patriot Viper 3 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($47.98 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($64.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7950 3GB Video Card ($289.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master Storm Enforcer ATX Mid Tower Case ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($54.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224BB DVD/CD Writer ($15.98 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $913.89
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-03-24 16:04 EDT-0400)

Here is an slightly above 1.5k build
better mb
better cooler
better PSU
an SSD +2tb of HDD
CFX 7970
Great build for a triple screen 1080p setup

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($209.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 612 PWM 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($52.85 @ Compuvest)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z77X-UD3H ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($139.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Patriot Viper 3 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($47.98 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($89.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Sandisk Ultra Plus 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: XFX Radeon HD 7970 3GB Video Card (2-Way CrossFire) ($369.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: XFX Radeon HD 7970 3GB Video Card (2-Way CrossFire) ($369.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master Storm Enforcer ATX Mid Tower Case ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair Enthusiast 850W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($109.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224BB DVD/CD Writer ($15.98 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $1576.73
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-03-24 16:10 EDT-0400)

ok I have a couple of tech questions for you. I was reading the mother board reviews on here and they suggested the bio star it was a good all around. so why would you want to go less on the mother board.
2. seagate over western digital. I have always heard that western digital is better but i have found that the prices for seagate are better why did you go seagate over western.

3. xfx never heard of them are they any good? where and what do you use to calculate the number of 12v rails you need and the wattage.

4.the asus mother board was also one of toms hardware picks beating out the gigabyte mob. what makes the gigabyte better?

5. cooler master storm enforcer is a very good case but toms hardware rated the nzxt case to better. From what I saw the cable management and the fans are better in the nzxt.

6. I have thought about getting an ssd but thought that saving the money for something else would be better. why use an ssd?

 

[stickmansam]

ok I have a couple of tech questions for you. I was reading the mother board reviews on here and they suggested the bio star it was a good all around. so why would you want to go less on the mother board.
2. seagate over western digital. I have always heard that western digital is better but i have found that the prices for seagate are better why did you go seagate over western.

3. xfx never heard of them are they any good? where and what do you use to calculate the number of 12v rails you need and the wattage.

4.the asus mother board was also one of toms hardware picks beating out the gigabyte mob. what makes the gigabyte better?

5. cooler master storm enforcer is a very good case but toms hardware rated the nzxt case to better. From what I saw the cable management and the fans are better in the nzxt.

6. I have thought about getting an ssd but thought that saving the money for something else would be better. why use an ssd?

The Biostar is good but why get something more expensive if you don't need it

The seagate vs wd blue have very similar performance and reliability, I pick them based on price. if you want true reliability and data security, get RAID

xfx is good and made by seasonic for them
You find reviews of the PSU (also shows it supposed wattage on documntation or stick on PSU) and other parts (how much each part uses)

The UD3H has better power delivery and similar quality

I like the CM look better and fans and CM are almost an preference choice, your call there if you want to change

SSD speeds up game loads and boost times and app load times, you don;'t have to have it, you can always spend the money on something else

 

[d00mdragon]

ok I have a couple of tech questions for you. I was reading the mother board reviews on here and they suggested the bio star it was a good all around. so why would you want to go less on the mother board.
2. seagate over western digital. I have always heard that western digital is better but i have found that the prices for seagate are better why did you go seagate over western.

3. xfx never heard of them are they any good? where and what do you use to calculate the number of 12v rails you need and the wattage.

4.the asus mother board was also one of toms hardware picks beating out the gigabyte mob. what makes the gigabyte better?

5. cooler master storm enforcer is a very good case but toms hardware rated the nzxt case to better. From what I saw the cable management and the fans are better in the nzxt.

6. I have thought about getting an ssd but thought that saving the money for something else would be better. why use an ssd?

The Biostar is good but why get something more expensive if you don't need it

The seagate vs wd blue have very similar performance and reliability, I pick them based on price. if you want true reliability and data security, get RAID

xfx is good and made by seasonic for them
You find reviews of the PSU (also shows it supposed wattage on documntation or stick on PSU) and other parts (how much each part uses)

The UD3H has better power delivery and similar quality

I like the CM look better and fans and CM are almost an preference choice, your call there if you want to change

SSD speeds up game loads and boost times and app load times, you don;'t have to have it, you can always spend the money on something else

I believe you that the gigabyte mob is better but I wanted to know if you had the article about it. I am trying to learn as much as I can and i wanted to see the statistics on the gigabyte mob. I wanted to know what you mean and how the power delivery works.

 

[stickmansam]

Here is an list of the VRM's
http://sinhardware.com/index.php/99-sins-hardware/vrm-list

Most reviews only touch on the power delivery section by restating the marketing stuff which is sometimes falsely constructed

For instance the extreme4 is marketed as 8 phases but in reality it only has 4 phases that are doubled to look like 8. The doubled phases can't work together so you only really have 4 phases.

 

[d00mdragon]

thank you

Here is an list of the VRM's
http://sinhardware.com/index.php/99-sins-hardware/vrm-list

Most reviews only touch on the power delivery section by restating the marketing stuff which is sometimes falsely constructed

For instance the extreme4 is marketed as 8 phases but in reality it only has 4 phases that are doubled to look like 8. The doubled phases can't work together so you only really have 4 phases.

 

[stickmansam]

np