A good cooler that can fit inside a carbide 100r.

[Killnaytor]

Hi, I didnt say best cooler because "best" is subjective imo.

So, I have a Ryzen 7 1700 and on my wraith Spire I am getting upwards of 80C in load @1.32 V. I am using the stock thermal paste.

So I was thinking to upgrade the cooling. Since I was planning to keep the Wraith earlier (saw some reviews on how it held its own) I bought the carbide 100r.

Thanks in advance.

PS. Should I change my thermal compound and trying, before investing in a brand new cooler. I mean the Wraith Spire looks god damn good.

 

[geofelt]

Top down coolers are not as effective as tower type coolers.
A tower type will direct the hot air directly out the back of the case.

Your case is a nice one but is restricted to 150mm tall coolers.
One of the best is the cryorig H7 which is 145mm tall.
Cryorig offers a AM4 compatibility kit with free shipping to existing customers. It is not clear to me if the adapter is now included in new product.

Good cooling starts with supplying the cooler with fresh air to do it's job.
If you mount two 120 or 140mm front intakes you will be good.

 

[Killnaytor]

Top down coolers are not as effective as tower type coolers.
A tower type will direct the hot air directly out the back of the case.

Your case is a nice one but is restricted to 150mm tall coolers.
One of the best is the cryorig H7 which is 145mm tall.
Cryorig offers a AM4 compatibility kit with free shipping to existing customers. It is not clear to me if the adapter is now included in new product.

Good cooling starts with supplying the cooler with fresh air to do it's job.
If you mount two 120 or 140mm front intakes you will be good.

Thank you for the quick reply.
I do have 2 SP 120 pulling in air from the front. i hope that should suffice.

thanks again

 

[TheAK Cube]

Top down coolers are not as effective as tower type coolers.
A tower type will direct the hot air directly out the back of the case.

Your case is a nice one but is restricted to 150mm tall coolers.
One of the best is the cryorig H7 which is 145mm tall.
Cryorig offers a AM4 compatibility kit with free shipping to existing customers. It is not clear to me if the adapter is now included in new product.

Good cooling starts with supplying the cooler with fresh air to do it's job.
If you mount two 120 or 140mm front intakes you will be good.

Thank you for the quick reply.
I do have 2 SP 120 pulling in air from the front. i hope that should suffice.

thanks again

You do have a rear exhaust right??? I'm assuming you do, what is your ambient temperature? And what is your OC? Also, maybe try removing any dust filters on the case (I'm not familiar with the case's specs, sorry).

 

[Killnaytor]

Top down coolers are not as effective as tower type coolers.
A tower type will direct the hot air directly out the back of the case.

Your case is a nice one but is restricted to 150mm tall coolers.
One of the best is the cryorig H7 which is 145mm tall.
Cryorig offers a AM4 compatibility kit with free shipping to existing customers. It is not clear to me if the adapter is now included in new product.

Good cooling starts with supplying the cooler with fresh air to do it's job.
If you mount two 120 or 140mm front intakes you will be good.

Thank you for the quick reply.
I do have 2 SP 120 pulling in air from the front. i hope that should suffice.

thanks again

You do have a rear exhaust right??? I'm assuming you do, what is your ambient temperature? And what is your OC? Also, maybe try removing any dust filters on the case (I'm not familiar with the case's specs, sorry).

yes, 2 exhaust fans and 2 intake fans. I am running 3.8 Ghz @1.32 V. My fan CPU fan is 100%. right now ambient is between 27-29 C. (summer)

 

[TheAK Cube]

Top down coolers are not as effective as tower type coolers.
A tower type will direct the hot air directly out the back of the case.

Your case is a nice one but is restricted to 150mm tall coolers.
One of the best is the cryorig H7 which is 145mm tall.
Cryorig offers a AM4 compatibility kit with free shipping to existing customers. It is not clear to me if the adapter is now included in new product.

Good cooling starts with supplying the cooler with fresh air to do it's job.
If you mount two 120 or 140mm front intakes you will be good.

Thank you for the quick reply.
I do have 2 SP 120 pulling in air from the front. i hope that should suffice.

thanks again

You do have a rear exhaust right??? I'm assuming you do, what is your ambient temperature? And what is your OC? Also, maybe try removing any dust filters on the case (I'm not familiar with the case's specs, sorry).

yes, 2 exhaust fans and 2 intake fans. I am running 3.8 Ghz @1.32 V. My fan CPU fan is 100%. right now ambient is between 27-29 C. (summer)

Try removing the dust filters on your case (if you have them) and also what is your ambient temperature?
I've seen Spire reviews holding 3.8GHz at mid 60C temps... It's odd that you're hitting upwards of 80C... Are your intakes maybe blocked by a drive cage or something?

 

[Killnaytor]

Top down coolers are not as effective as tower type coolers.
A tower type will direct the hot air directly out the back of the case.

Your case is a nice one but is restricted to 150mm tall coolers.
One of the best is the cryorig H7 which is 145mm tall.
Cryorig offers a AM4 compatibility kit with free shipping to existing customers. It is not clear to me if the adapter is now included in new product.

Good cooling starts with supplying the cooler with fresh air to do it's job.
If you mount two 120 or 140mm front intakes you will be good.

Thank you for the quick reply.
I do have 2 SP 120 pulling in air from the front. i hope that should suffice.

thanks again

You do have a rear exhaust right??? I'm assuming you do, what is your ambient temperature? And what is your OC? Also, maybe try removing any dust filters on the case (I'm not familiar with the case's specs, sorry).

Top down coolers are not as effective as tower type coolers.
A tower type will direct the hot air directly out the back of the case.

Your case is a nice one but is restricted to 150mm tall coolers.
One of the best is the cryorig H7 which is 145mm tall.
Cryorig offers a AM4 compatibility kit with free shipping to existing customers. It is not clear to me if the adapter is now included in new product.

Good cooling starts with supplying the cooler with fresh air to do it's job.
If you mount two 120 or 140mm front intakes you will be good.

Thank you for the quick reply.
I do have 2 SP 120 pulling in air from the front. i hope that should suffice.

thanks again

You do have a rear exhaust right??? I'm assuming you do, what is your ambient temperature? And what is your OC? Also, maybe try removing any dust filters on the case (I'm not familiar with the case's specs, sorry).

yes, 2 exhaust fans and 2 intake fans. I am running 3.8 Ghz @1.32 V. My fan CPU fan is 100%. right now ambient is between 27-29 C. (summer)

Try removing the dust filters on your case (if you have them) and also what is your ambient temperature?
I've seen Spire reviews holding 3.8GHz at mid 60C temps... It's odd that you're hitting upwards of 80C... Are your intakes maybe blocked by a drive cage or something?

Yes, I have seen the same thus was a bit bamboozled, so to speak. Thats why I thought about trying to change the thermal paste. (using the stock paste right now) One of the fans is kind off blocked by the drivecage but the other one isnt. My Ambient temp is between 27-29 C right now in summer.

 

[geofelt]

Your ambient is relatively hot.
You should expect 10-15c. over ambient at idle.

80c. at 1.32v seems like a good number.
You hear stories about 3.9 and 4.0, but that comes from those with good chips.
Those with dogs are silent.

Dust filters serve a purpose, namely to keep your parts clean.
If your intake capability is not what you want, you can always opt for higher performing(and noisier ) intakes.
Changing out to 140mm intakes would not be expensive. 140mm fans move more air at lower noise than 120mm.

And... remember that all air that comes in the front will exit somewhere, taking heat with it.
Using more than a weak single exhaust fan will draw in unfiltered air from adjacent openings causing more dust.

If you want to do an experiment, take the case covers off and direct a house fan at the innards. If that helps much, look to case cooling solutions.

 

[TheAK Cube]

Top down coolers are not as effective as tower type coolers.
A tower type will direct the hot air directly out the back of the case.

Your case is a nice one but is restricted to 150mm tall coolers.
One of the best is the cryorig H7 which is 145mm tall.
Cryorig offers a AM4 compatibility kit with free shipping to existing customers. It is not clear to me if the adapter is now included in new product.

Good cooling starts with supplying the cooler with fresh air to do it's job.
If you mount two 120 or 140mm front intakes you will be good.

Thank you for the quick reply.
I do have 2 SP 120 pulling in air from the front. i hope that should suffice.

thanks again

You do have a rear exhaust right??? I'm assuming you do, what is your ambient temperature? And what is your OC? Also, maybe try removing any dust filters on the case (I'm not familiar with the case's specs, sorry).

Top down coolers are not as effective as tower type coolers.
A tower type will direct the hot air directly out the back of the case.

Your case is a nice one but is restricted to 150mm tall coolers.
One of the best is the cryorig H7 which is 145mm tall.
Cryorig offers a AM4 compatibility kit with free shipping to existing customers. It is not clear to me if the adapter is now included in new product.

Good cooling starts with supplying the cooler with fresh air to do it's job.
If you mount two 120 or 140mm front intakes you will be good.

Thank you for the quick reply.
I do have 2 SP 120 pulling in air from the front. i hope that should suffice.

thanks again

You do have a rear exhaust right??? I'm assuming you do, what is your ambient temperature? And what is your OC? Also, maybe try removing any dust filters on the case (I'm not familiar with the case's specs, sorry).

yes, 2 exhaust fans and 2 intake fans. I am running 3.8 Ghz @1.32 V. My fan CPU fan is 100%. right now ambient is between 27-29 C. (summer)

Try removing the dust filters on your case (if you have them) and also what is your ambient temperature?
I've seen Spire reviews holding 3.8GHz at mid 60C temps... It's odd that you're hitting upwards of 80C... Are your intakes maybe blocked by a drive cage or something?

Yes, I have seen the same thus was a bit bamboozled, so to speak. Thats why I thought about trying to change the thermal paste. (using the stock paste right now) One of the fans is kind off blocked by the drivecage but the other one isnt. My Ambient temp is between 27-29 C right now in summer.

That explains quite a bit. Those are pretty damn high Ambient Temps. Even adding more case fans might not help you much. I really don't think the Wraithe Spire can handle those temps. I'd recommend getting an After Market Cooler. Preferably even a liquid cooler if you want really good temps and a chance for a higher OC. If you're on a budget maybe consider looking at the Cryorig H7 or the Scythe Fuma. And if you're going for a budget water cooler... Just don't. A good air cooler would outperform it. But if you have more money, go for a water cooling solution and sure, adding a few more case fans might help. Rather than checking them yourself, to gain a general idea about it, Check Luke (LinusTechTips's) video on case fan optimization for some insight there. And yes, you'll probably have to give up on those beautifull RGB ring on the Wraithe Spire... or bring down your ambient temp ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

EDIT: Forgot to talk about the thermal paste query. Well the one on the stock cooler has had some complaints about being too thick / thin (Can't remember which), but even so, replacing it with a better thermal paste might not be as effective of getting a better after market cooler. Granted the Wraithe Spire is a pretty great stock cooler (I personally think AMD should sell it as an after market cooler as well), it just can't handle those ambient temps.

 

[Killnaytor]

Your ambient is relatively hot.
You should expect 10-15c. over ambient at idle.

80c. at 1.32v seems like a good number.
You hear stories about 3.9 and 4.0, but that comes from those with good chips.
Those with dogs are silent.

Dust filters serve a purpose, namely to keep your parts clean.
If your intake capability is not what you want, you can always opt for higher performing(and noisier ) intakes.
Changing out to 140mm intakes would not be expensive. 140mm fans move more air at lower noise than 120mm.

And... remember that all air that comes in the front will exit somewhere, taking heat with it.
Using more than a weak single exhaust fan will draw in unfiltered air from adjacent openings causing more dust.

If you want to do an experiment, take the case covers off and direct a house fan at the innards. If that helps much, look to case cooling solutions.

Yeah, I live in germany and my room has no fan or AC so it gets really hot in summer. I do have 2 exhaust fans, one default which i got from corsair and the other CM Scythe. 120 mm. I shall try the house fan method tomorrow and will revert. Thank you so much

 

[Killnaytor]

Top down coolers are not as effective as tower type coolers.
A tower type will direct the hot air directly out the back of the case.

Your case is a nice one but is restricted to 150mm tall coolers.
One of the best is the cryorig H7 which is 145mm tall.
Cryorig offers a AM4 compatibility kit with free shipping to existing customers. It is not clear to me if the adapter is now included in new product.

Good cooling starts with supplying the cooler with fresh air to do it's job.
If you mount two 120 or 140mm front intakes you will be good.

Thank you for the quick reply.
I do have 2 SP 120 pulling in air from the front. i hope that should suffice.

thanks again

You do have a rear exhaust right??? I'm assuming you do, what is your ambient temperature? And what is your OC? Also, maybe try removing any dust filters on the case (I'm not familiar with the case's specs, sorry).

Top down coolers are not as effective as tower type coolers.
A tower type will direct the hot air directly out the back of the case.

Your case is a nice one but is restricted to 150mm tall coolers.
One of the best is the cryorig H7 which is 145mm tall.
Cryorig offers a AM4 compatibility kit with free shipping to existing customers. It is not clear to me if the adapter is now included in new product.

Good cooling starts with supplying the cooler with fresh air to do it's job.
If you mount two 120 or 140mm front intakes you will be good.

Thank you for the quick reply.
I do have 2 SP 120 pulling in air from the front. i hope that should suffice.

thanks again

You do have a rear exhaust right??? I'm assuming you do, what is your ambient temperature? And what is your OC? Also, maybe try removing any dust filters on the case (I'm not familiar with the case's specs, sorry).

yes, 2 exhaust fans and 2 intake fans. I am running 3.8 Ghz @1.32 V. My fan CPU fan is 100%. right now ambient is between 27-29 C. (summer)

Try removing the dust filters on your case (if you have them) and also what is your ambient temperature?
I've seen Spire reviews holding 3.8GHz at mid 60C temps... It's odd that you're hitting upwards of 80C... Are your intakes maybe blocked by a drive cage or something?

Yes, I have seen the same thus was a bit bamboozled, so to speak. Thats why I thought about trying to change the thermal paste. (using the stock paste right now) One of the fans is kind off blocked by the drivecage but the other one isnt. My Ambient temp is between 27-29 C right now in summer.

That explains quite a bit. Those are pretty damn high Ambient Temps. Even adding more case fans might not help you much. I really don't think the Wraithe Spire can handle those temps. I'd recommend getting an After Market Cooler. Preferably even a liquid cooler if you want really good temps and a chance for a higher OC. If you're on a budget maybe consider looking at the Cryorig H7 or the Scythe Fuma. And if you're going for a budget water cooler... Just don't. A good air cooler would outperform it. But if you have more money, go for a water cooling solution and sure, adding a few more case fans might help. Rather than checking them yourself, to gain a general idea about it, Check Luke (LinusTechTips's) video on case fan optimization for some insight there. And yes, you'll probably have to give up on those beautifull RGB ring on the Wraithe Spire... or bring down your ambient temp ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

EDIT: Forgot to talk about the thermal paste query. Well the one on the stock cooler has had some complaints about being too thick / thin (Can't remember which), but even so, replacing it with a better thermal paste might not be as effective of getting a better after market cooler. Granted the Wraithe Spire is a pretty great stock cooler (I personally think AMD should sell it as an after market cooler as well), it just can't handle those ambient temps.

Thanks a lot for your answer. What are your opinions on h80i? I am just scared of AiO's leaking.

 

[geofelt]

AIO coolers, in general cool no better than good air coolers.
I am not much in favor of aio unless your case is constricted and can not use an air cooler with a 120mm fan.

My canned rant on liquid cooling:
------------------------start of rant-------------------
You buy a liquid cooler to be able to extract an extra multiplier or two out of your OC.
How much do you really need?
I do not much like all in one liquid coolers when a good air cooler like a Noctua or phanteks can do the job just as well.
A liquid cooler will be expensive, noisy, less reliable, and will not cool any better
in a well ventilated case.
Liquid cooling is really air cooling, it just puts the heat exchange in a different place.
The orientation of the radiator will cause a problem.
If you orient it to take in cool air from the outside, you will cool the cpu better, but the hot air then circulates inside the case heating up the graphics card and motherboard.
If you orient it to exhaust(which I think is better) , then your cpu cooling will be less effective because it uses pre heated case air.
And... I have read too many tales of woe when a liquid cooler leaks.
google "H100 leak"
I would support an AIO cooler only in a space restricted case.
-----------------------end of rant--------------------------

Your pc will be quieter, more reliable, and will be cooled equally well with a decent air cooler.

 

[Killnaytor]

AIO coolers, in general cool no better than good air coolers.
I am not much in favor of aio unless your case is constricted and can not use an air cooler with a 120mm fan.

My canned rant on liquid cooling:
------------------------start of rant-------------------
You buy a liquid cooler to be able to extract an extra multiplier or two out of your OC.
How much do you really need?
I do not much like all in one liquid coolers when a good air cooler like a Noctua or phanteks can do the job just as well.
A liquid cooler will be expensive, noisy, less reliable, and will not cool any better
in a well ventilated case.
Liquid cooling is really air cooling, it just puts the heat exchange in a different place.
The orientation of the radiator will cause a problem.
If you orient it to take in cool air from the outside, you will cool the cpu better, but the hot air then circulates inside the case heating up the graphics card and motherboard.
If you orient it to exhaust(which I think is better) , then your cpu cooling will be less effective because it uses pre heated case air.
And... I have read too many tales of woe when a liquid cooler leaks.
google "H100 leak"
I would support an AIO cooler only in a space restricted case.
-----------------------end of rant--------------------------

Your pc will be quieter, more reliable, and will be cooled equally well with a decent air cooler.

I have read this rant in so many places and I am also pro air, but my case limits air coolers to be just 150 mm tall, which is nothing. 212 EVO is also taller than that

 

[geofelt]

AIO coolers, in general cool no better than good air coolers.
I am not much in favor of aio unless your case is constricted and can not use an air cooler with a 120mm fan.

My canned rant on liquid cooling:
------------------------start of rant-------------------
You buy a liquid cooler to be able to extract an extra multiplier or two out of your OC.
How much do you really need?
I do not much like all in one liquid coolers when a good air cooler like a Noctua or phanteks can do the job just as well.
A liquid cooler will be expensive, noisy, less reliable, and will not cool any better
in a well ventilated case.
Liquid cooling is really air cooling, it just puts the heat exchange in a different place.
The orientation of the radiator will cause a problem.
If you orient it to take in cool air from the outside, you will cool the cpu better, but the hot air then circulates inside the case heating up the graphics card and motherboard.
If you orient it to exhaust(which I think is better) , then your cpu cooling will be less effective because it uses pre heated case air.
And... I have read too many tales of woe when a liquid cooler leaks.
google "H100 leak"
I would support an AIO cooler only in a space restricted case.
-----------------------end of rant--------------------------

Your pc will be quieter, more reliable, and will be cooled equally well with a decent air cooler.

I have read this rant in so many places and I am also pro air, but my case limits air coolers to be just 150 mm tall, which is nothing. 212 EVO is also taller than that

If you can buy a cryorig H7, it is only 145mm tall and is even a better cooler than the popular hyper212.

 

[TheAK Cube]

Top down coolers are not as effective as tower type coolers.
A tower type will direct the hot air directly out the back of the case.

Your case is a nice one but is restricted to 150mm tall coolers.
One of the best is the cryorig H7 which is 145mm tall.
Cryorig offers a AM4 compatibility kit with free shipping to existing customers. It is not clear to me if the adapter is now included in new product.

Good cooling starts with supplying the cooler with fresh air to do it's job.
If you mount two 120 or 140mm front intakes you will be good.

Thank you for the quick reply.
I do have 2 SP 120 pulling in air from the front. i hope that should suffice.

thanks again

You do have a rear exhaust right??? I'm assuming you do, what is your ambient temperature? And what is your OC? Also, maybe try removing any dust filters on the case (I'm not familiar with the case's specs, sorry).

Top down coolers are not as effective as tower type coolers.
A tower type will direct the hot air directly out the back of the case.

Your case is a nice one but is restricted to 150mm tall coolers.
One of the best is the cryorig H7 which is 145mm tall.
Cryorig offers a AM4 compatibility kit with free shipping to existing customers. It is not clear to me if the adapter is now included in new product.

Good cooling starts with supplying the cooler with fresh air to do it's job.
If you mount two 120 or 140mm front intakes you will be good.

Thank you for the quick reply.
I do have 2 SP 120 pulling in air from the front. i hope that should suffice.

thanks again

You do have a rear exhaust right??? I'm assuming you do, what is your ambient temperature? And what is your OC? Also, maybe try removing any dust filters on the case (I'm not familiar with the case's specs, sorry).

yes, 2 exhaust fans and 2 intake fans. I am running 3.8 Ghz @1.32 V. My fan CPU fan is 100%. right now ambient is between 27-29 C. (summer)

Try removing the dust filters on your case (if you have them) and also what is your ambient temperature?
I've seen Spire reviews holding 3.8GHz at mid 60C temps... It's odd that you're hitting upwards of 80C... Are your intakes maybe blocked by a drive cage or something?

Yes, I have seen the same thus was a bit bamboozled, so to speak. Thats why I thought about trying to change the thermal paste. (using the stock paste right now) One of the fans is kind off blocked by the drivecage but the other one isnt. My Ambient temp is between 27-29 C right now in summer.

That explains quite a bit. Those are pretty damn high Ambient Temps. Even adding more case fans might not help you much. I really don't think the Wraithe Spire can handle those temps. I'd recommend getting an After Market Cooler. Preferably even a liquid cooler if you want really good temps and a chance for a higher OC. If you're on a budget maybe consider looking at the Cryorig H7 or the Scythe Fuma. And if you're going for a budget water cooler... Just don't. A good air cooler would outperform it. But if you have more money, go for a water cooling solution and sure, adding a few more case fans might help. Rather than checking them yourself, to gain a general idea about it, Check Luke (LinusTechTips's) video on case fan optimization for some insight there. And yes, you'll probably have to give up on those beautifull RGB ring on the Wraithe Spire... or bring down your ambient temp ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

EDIT: Forgot to talk about the thermal paste query. Well the one on the stock cooler has had some complaints about being too thick / thin (Can't remember which), but even so, replacing it with a better thermal paste might not be as effective of getting a better after market cooler. Granted the Wraithe Spire is a pretty great stock cooler (I personally think AMD should sell it as an after market cooler as well), it just can't handle those ambient temps.

Thanks a lot for your answer. What are your opinions on h80i? I am just scared of AiO's leaking.

Which is why I said if you're going to buy a liquid cooling system, buy a good quality one. If you're on a budget, the H7 Cryorig or the Scythe Fuma is a pretty good choice. If you compare low end liquid cooling solutions vs Mid range air cooling solutions... Air cooling, actually wins. So it more or so depends upon your budget. And also, with liquid coolers, if you really want to be safe, replace them as soon as the warranty ends for them. But do not buy cheap liquid coolers. If you're on a budget, air cooling FTW.

As for the h80i, it IS from Corsair, which is a pretty reputable brand... But however, you can find out more about it in the following link. tl;dr, no it's not worth it. Also, this thread is a little old, don't buy the Hyper 212 Evo. The H7 Cryorig and Scythe Fuma outperform it. But you can also get some recommendations for better liquid coolers http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/281644-29-corsair-h80i-worth

 

[Killnaytor]

AIO coolers, in general cool no better than good air coolers.
I am not much in favor of aio unless your case is constricted and can not use an air cooler with a 120mm fan.

My canned rant on liquid cooling:
------------------------start of rant-------------------
You buy a liquid cooler to be able to extract an extra multiplier or two out of your OC.
How much do you really need?
I do not much like all in one liquid coolers when a good air cooler like a Noctua or phanteks can do the job just as well.
A liquid cooler will be expensive, noisy, less reliable, and will not cool any better
in a well ventilated case.
Liquid cooling is really air cooling, it just puts the heat exchange in a different place.
The orientation of the radiator will cause a problem.
If you orient it to take in cool air from the outside, you will cool the cpu better, but the hot air then circulates inside the case heating up the graphics card and motherboard.
If you orient it to exhaust(which I think is better) , then your cpu cooling will be less effective because it uses pre heated case air.
And... I have read too many tales of woe when a liquid cooler leaks.
google "H100 leak"
I would support an AIO cooler only in a space restricted case.
-----------------------end of rant--------------------------

Your pc will be quieter, more reliable, and will be cooled equally well with a decent air cooler.

I have read this rant in so many places and I am also pro air, but my case limits air coolers to be just 150 mm tall, which is nothing. 212 EVO is also taller than that

If you can buy a cryorig H7, it is only 145mm tall and is even a better cooler than the popular hyper212.

The cryorig h7 has been recommended to me a lot of times on this forum. So I think I may just go for that. Thanks a lot for all your help I really appreciate it

 

[Killnaytor]

Top down coolers are not as effective as tower type coolers.
A tower type will direct the hot air directly out the back of the case.

Your case is a nice one but is restricted to 150mm tall coolers.
One of the best is the cryorig H7 which is 145mm tall.
Cryorig offers a AM4 compatibility kit with free shipping to existing customers. It is not clear to me if the adapter is now included in new product.

Good cooling starts with supplying the cooler with fresh air to do it's job.
If you mount two 120 or 140mm front intakes you will be good.

Thank you for the quick reply.
I do have 2 SP 120 pulling in air from the front. i hope that should suffice.

thanks again

You do have a rear exhaust right??? I'm assuming you do, what is your ambient temperature? And what is your OC? Also, maybe try removing any dust filters on the case (I'm not familiar with the case's specs, sorry).

Top down coolers are not as effective as tower type coolers.
A tower type will direct the hot air directly out the back of the case.

Your case is a nice one but is restricted to 150mm tall coolers.
One of the best is the cryorig H7 which is 145mm tall.
Cryorig offers a AM4 compatibility kit with free shipping to existing customers. It is not clear to me if the adapter is now included in new product.

Good cooling starts with supplying the cooler with fresh air to do it's job.
If you mount two 120 or 140mm front intakes you will be good.

Thank you for the quick reply.
I do have 2 SP 120 pulling in air from the front. i hope that should suffice.

thanks again

You do have a rear exhaust right??? I'm assuming you do, what is your ambient temperature? And what is your OC? Also, maybe try removing any dust filters on the case (I'm not familiar with the case's specs, sorry).

yes, 2 exhaust fans and 2 intake fans. I am running 3.8 Ghz @1.32 V. My fan CPU fan is 100%. right now ambient is between 27-29 C. (summer)

Try removing the dust filters on your case (if you have them) and also what is your ambient temperature?
I've seen Spire reviews holding 3.8GHz at mid 60C temps... It's odd that you're hitting upwards of 80C... Are your intakes maybe blocked by a drive cage or something?

Yes, I have seen the same thus was a bit bamboozled, so to speak. Thats why I thought about trying to change the thermal paste. (using the stock paste right now) One of the fans is kind off blocked by the drivecage but the other one isnt. My Ambient temp is between 27-29 C right now in summer.

That explains quite a bit. Those are pretty damn high Ambient Temps. Even adding more case fans might not help you much. I really don't think the Wraithe Spire can handle those temps. I'd recommend getting an After Market Cooler. Preferably even a liquid cooler if you want really good temps and a chance for a higher OC. If you're on a budget maybe consider looking at the Cryorig H7 or the Scythe Fuma. And if you're going for a budget water cooler... Just don't. A good air cooler would outperform it. But if you have more money, go for a water cooling solution and sure, adding a few more case fans might help. Rather than checking them yourself, to gain a general idea about it, Check Luke (LinusTechTips's) video on case fan optimization for some insight there. And yes, you'll probably have to give up on those beautifull RGB ring on the Wraithe Spire... or bring down your ambient temp ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

EDIT: Forgot to talk about the thermal paste query. Well the one on the stock cooler has had some complaints about being too thick / thin (Can't remember which), but even so, replacing it with a better thermal paste might not be as effective of getting a better after market cooler. Granted the Wraithe Spire is a pretty great stock cooler (I personally think AMD should sell it as an after market cooler as well), it just can't handle those ambient temps.

Thanks a lot for your answer. What are your opinions on h80i? I am just scared of AiO's leaking.

Which is why I said if you're going to buy a liquid cooling system, buy a good quality one. If you're on a budget, the H7 Cryorig or the Scythe Fuma is a pretty good choice. If you compare low end liquid cooling solutions vs Mid range air cooling solutions... Air cooling, actually wins. So it more or so depends upon your budget. And also, with liquid coolers, if you really want to be safe, replace them as soon as the warranty ends for them. But do not buy cheap liquid coolers. If you're on a budget, air cooling FTW.

As for the h80i, it IS from Corsair, which is a pretty reputable brand... But however, you can find out more about it in the following link. tl;dr, no it's not worth it. Also, this thread is a little old, don't buy the Hyper 212 Evo. The H7 Cryorig and Scythe Fuma outperform it. But you can also get some recommendations for better liquid coolers http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/281644-29-corsair-h80i-worth

Thanks a lot for the link. A lot of people have recommended the H7 so I guess I think I know what to buy. (Only if it had RGB 😛 ) So I think I may just go for that. Thanks a lot for all your help I really appreciate it.

 

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Top down coolers are not as effective as tower type coolers.
A tower type will direct the hot air directly out the back of the case.

Your case is a nice one but is restricted to 150mm tall coolers.
One of the best is the cryorig H7 which is 145mm tall.
Cryorig offers a AM4 compatibility kit with free shipping to existing customers. It is not clear to me if the adapter is now included in new product.

Good cooling starts with supplying the cooler with fresh air to do it's job.
If you mount two 120 or 140mm front intakes you will be good.

Thank you for the quick reply.
I do have 2 SP 120 pulling in air from the front. i hope that should suffice.

thanks again

You do have a rear exhaust right??? I'm assuming you do, what is your ambient temperature? And what is your OC? Also, maybe try removing any dust filters on the case (I'm not familiar with the case's specs, sorry).

Top down coolers are not as effective as tower type coolers.
A tower type will direct the hot air directly out the back of the case.

Your case is a nice one but is restricted to 150mm tall coolers.
One of the best is the cryorig H7 which is 145mm tall.
Cryorig offers a AM4 compatibility kit with free shipping to existing customers. It is not clear to me if the adapter is now included in new product.

Good cooling starts with supplying the cooler with fresh air to do it's job.
If you mount two 120 or 140mm front intakes you will be good.

Thank you for the quick reply.
I do have 2 SP 120 pulling in air from the front. i hope that should suffice.

thanks again

You do have a rear exhaust right??? I'm assuming you do, what is your ambient temperature? And what is your OC? Also, maybe try removing any dust filters on the case (I'm not familiar with the case's specs, sorry).

yes, 2 exhaust fans and 2 intake fans. I am running 3.8 Ghz @1.32 V. My fan CPU fan is 100%. right now ambient is between 27-29 C. (summer)

Try removing the dust filters on your case (if you have them) and also what is your ambient temperature?
I've seen Spire reviews holding 3.8GHz at mid 60C temps... It's odd that you're hitting upwards of 80C... Are your intakes maybe blocked by a drive cage or something?

Yes, I have seen the same thus was a bit bamboozled, so to speak. Thats why I thought about trying to change the thermal paste. (using the stock paste right now) One of the fans is kind off blocked by the drivecage but the other one isnt. My Ambient temp is between 27-29 C right now in summer.

That explains quite a bit. Those are pretty damn high Ambient Temps. Even adding more case fans might not help you much. I really don't think the Wraithe Spire can handle those temps. I'd recommend getting an After Market Cooler. Preferably even a liquid cooler if you want really good temps and a chance for a higher OC. If you're on a budget maybe consider looking at the Cryorig H7 or the Scythe Fuma. And if you're going for a budget water cooler... Just don't. A good air cooler would outperform it. But if you have more money, go for a water cooling solution and sure, adding a few more case fans might help. Rather than checking them yourself, to gain a general idea about it, Check Luke (LinusTechTips's) video on case fan optimization for some insight there. And yes, you'll probably have to give up on those beautifull RGB ring on the Wraithe Spire... or bring down your ambient temp ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

EDIT: Forgot to talk about the thermal paste query. Well the one on the stock cooler has had some complaints about being too thick / thin (Can't remember which), but even so, replacing it with a better thermal paste might not be as effective of getting a better after market cooler. Granted the Wraithe Spire is a pretty great stock cooler (I personally think AMD should sell it as an after market cooler as well), it just can't handle those ambient temps.

Thanks a lot for your answer. What are your opinions on h80i? I am just scared of AiO's leaking.

Which is why I said if you're going to buy a liquid cooling system, buy a good quality one. If you're on a budget, the H7 Cryorig or the Scythe Fuma is a pretty good choice. If you compare low end liquid cooling solutions vs Mid range air cooling solutions... Air cooling, actually wins. So it more or so depends upon your budget. And also, with liquid coolers, if you really want to be safe, replace them as soon as the warranty ends for them. But do not buy cheap liquid coolers. If you're on a budget, air cooling FTW.

As for the h80i, it IS from Corsair, which is a pretty reputable brand... But however, you can find out more about it in the following link. tl;dr, no it's not worth it. Also, this thread is a little old, don't buy the Hyper 212 Evo. The H7 Cryorig and Scythe Fuma outperform it. But you can also get some recommendations for better liquid coolers http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/281644-29-corsair-h80i-worth

Thanks a lot for the link. A lot of people have recommended the H7 so I guess I think I know what to buy. (Only if it had RGB 😛 ) So I think I may just go for that. Thanks a lot for all your help I really appreciate it.

You mostly go for RGB on you case fans so I guess you could still getting it look flashy with them. In the case of RGB CPU coolers... You'll more or less only come across RGB water coolers.
Ex: Thermaltake Water 3.0
But yeah, glad I was of help and good luck!