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I have been working on several printing project the last week using
several different programs, including Photoshop, Corel Draw,
WordPerfect, and so on.

During a printing of a WordPerfect document, something apparently
crashed in the print driver. What came out of my printer (in this case
a rather old Epson SC850 running on plain paper at 720 dpi) appeared to
be just a bunch of very fine dotted and dashed lines.

I tried make some changes and printed another time, and the same problem
developed although the spacing of these dots and dashes were a bit
different.

Fixing the problem required a reboot... no big deal, but later on that
day, I was taking a much closer look at the pages with the dots and
dashes, to try to determine if the problem was the Epson driver or the
printer driver WordPerfect uses.

Since I am rather nearsighted, I removed my glasses to look more closely
at these very tiny dotted lines, and I thought I was imagining things,
so I got my loupe out and looked again...

Much to my amazement, I found when looking through the loupe, those dots
and dashes became words, and the words we fully and quite easily
readable. Looking at what happened to the file I printed, I realized
something had set the aril font to 2 point size. Keep in mind this is
on plain bond paper, using the plain paper driver setting at 720 dpi on
a printer that's about seven years old...

And people tell me I should throw this printer OUT because it isn't fast
as the new ones, or because the current drivers don't support the latest
OS, or because they now have 6, 7, 8 color printers?

This technology is amazing. To think this printer using just small dots
could print microprinting that was fully readable under magnification,
says a lot about how advanced these printers were even seven years ago.

Now I know if I ever get really tight on paper, I can print at 2 point
and still decipher it later ;-)

But in all seriousness, it was quite unexpected. Now, I guess I'll have
to try 1 point type with 1440 dpi on proper inkjet paper and see what
happens.


Art
 
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Arthur Entlich <artistic@telus.net> wrotenews:WANHd.11656$u_1.10770
@edtnps91:

> I have been working on several printing project the last week using
> several different programs, including Photoshop, Corel Draw,
> WordPerfect, and so on.
>
> During a printing of a WordPerfect document, something apparently
> crashed in the print driver. What came out of my printer (in this case
> a rather old Epson SC850 running on plain paper at 720 dpi) appeared to
> be just a bunch of very fine dotted and dashed lines.
>
> I tried make some changes and printed another time, and the same problem
> developed although the spacing of these dots and dashes were a bit
> different.
>
> Fixing the problem required a reboot... no big deal, but later on that
> day, I was taking a much closer look at the pages with the dots and
> dashes, to try to determine if the problem was the Epson driver or the
> printer driver WordPerfect uses.
>
> Since I am rather nearsighted, I removed my glasses to look more closely
> at these very tiny dotted lines, and I thought I was imagining things,
> so I got my loupe out and looked again...
>
> Much to my amazement, I found when looking through the loupe, those dots
> and dashes became words, and the words we fully and quite easily
> readable. Looking at what happened to the file I printed, I realized
> something had set the aril font to 2 point size. Keep in mind this is
> on plain bond paper, using the plain paper driver setting at 720 dpi on
> a printer that's about seven years old...
>
> And people tell me I should throw this printer OUT because it isn't fast
> as the new ones, or because the current drivers don't support the latest
> OS, or because they now have 6, 7, 8 color printers?
>
> This technology is amazing. To think this printer using just small dots
> could print microprinting that was fully readable under magnification,
> says a lot about how advanced these printers were even seven years ago.
>
> Now I know if I ever get really tight on paper, I can print at 2 point
> and still decipher it later ;-)
>
> But in all seriousness, it was quite unexpected. Now, I guess I'll have
> to try 1 point type with 1440 dpi on proper inkjet paper and see what
> happens.
>
>
> Art
>
>

I think we all forget the power of capitalism, greed and plain old yankee
inguinuity.

Moore's law and it's attendant technological counterparts have demonstrated
time and time again that given freedom, capitalism, low taxes and little
regulation mankind moves at light speed.

Put a technology under government control, bueracracy and unions, with no
rewards for good work, and you get NASA and we still haven't put a man on
mars.

If the NASA program had moved as fast and been free and capitalistic as the
computer industry, we'd all be on that Pan Am clipper Starships watching
the moons of Venus rotate in our comfy longe chairs on the observation deck
before the FTL drive kicks in and takes us to the beaches on Antaries
Prime.

Halfway through the voyage, of course, a muslim fundamentlist bomb would
have exploded, thousands of sobbing liberals back on earth would have
castigated President Teddy Kennedy for not doing enough for safety and
Space Ship Ambulance chasers would be suing the Pan Am company into
bankruptcy....and so it goes and nothing really changes.

Oh, and just before they all implode into space and die quick decompression
deaths, some of the passengers would be using Epson Dot 9 pin Matrix
printers in the Osborn Server room to print out their reports.

Hey! I didn't say in my future everything went the same way, did I?

mapi
 
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If anyone else were to quote one of my postings from way back in January
of this year, I might be flattered.

However, when "Mapi" goes about trolling for something to use as fuel
for his typical neo-con, inflammatory rhetoric and snags one of my "just
in passing" commentaries, it's just embarrassing and turns my stomach.

What Moore's law failed to mention is that the same multiplier factors
that allow for invention and progress in electronics, unfortunately also
allows for nut cases like Mapi to have access to a wider audience to
annoy with his racist, bigoted rants and slurs.

Yeap, technology is a double edged sword. But humans are evolving beyond
the goo he's still stuck in. If you happen to notice him while walking
past a tar pit, just wave as he sinks into the muck.

Art

Mapanari wrote:

> Arthur Entlich <artistic@telus.net> wrotenews:WANHd.11656$u_1.10770
> @edtnps91:
>
>
>>I have been working on several printing project the last week using
>>several different programs, including Photoshop, Corel Draw,
>>WordPerfect, and so on.
>>
>>During a printing of a WordPerfect document, something apparently
>>crashed in the print driver. What came out of my printer (in this case
>>a rather old Epson SC850 running on plain paper at 720 dpi) appeared to
>>be just a bunch of very fine dotted and dashed lines.
>>
>>I tried make some changes and printed another time, and the same problem
>>developed although the spacing of these dots and dashes were a bit
>>different.
>>
>>Fixing the problem required a reboot... no big deal, but later on that
>>day, I was taking a much closer look at the pages with the dots and
>>dashes, to try to determine if the problem was the Epson driver or the
>>printer driver WordPerfect uses.
>>
>>Since I am rather nearsighted, I removed my glasses to look more closely
>>at these very tiny dotted lines, and I thought I was imagining things,
>>so I got my loupe out and looked again...
>>
>>Much to my amazement, I found when looking through the loupe, those dots
>>and dashes became words, and the words we fully and quite easily
>>readable. Looking at what happened to the file I printed, I realized
>>something had set the aril font to 2 point size. Keep in mind this is
>>on plain bond paper, using the plain paper driver setting at 720 dpi on
>>a printer that's about seven years old...
>>
>>And people tell me I should throw this printer OUT because it isn't fast
>>as the new ones, or because the current drivers don't support the latest
>>OS, or because they now have 6, 7, 8 color printers?
>>
>>This technology is amazing. To think this printer using just small dots
>>could print microprinting that was fully readable under magnification,
>>says a lot about how advanced these printers were even seven years ago.
>>
>>Now I know if I ever get really tight on paper, I can print at 2 point
>>and still decipher it later ;-)
>>
>>But in all seriousness, it was quite unexpected. Now, I guess I'll have
>>to try 1 point type with 1440 dpi on proper inkjet paper and see what
>>happens.
>>
>>
>>Art
>>
>>
>
>
> I think we all forget the power of capitalism, greed and plain old yankee
> inguinuity.
>
> Moore's law and it's attendant technological counterparts have demonstrated
> time and time again that given freedom, capitalism, low taxes and little
> regulation mankind moves at light speed.
>
> Put a technology under government control, bueracracy and unions, with no
> rewards for good work, and you get NASA and we still haven't put a man on
> mars.
>
> If the NASA program had moved as fast and been free and capitalistic as the
> computer industry, we'd all be on that Pan Am clipper Starships watching
> the moons of Venus rotate in our comfy longe chairs on the observation deck
> before the FTL drive kicks in and takes us to the beaches on Antaries
> Prime.
>
> Halfway through the voyage, of course, a muslim fundamentlist bomb would
> have exploded, thousands of sobbing liberals back on earth would have
> castigated President Teddy Kennedy for not doing enough for safety and
> Space Ship Ambulance chasers would be suing the Pan Am company into
> bankruptcy....and so it goes and nothing really changes.
>
> Oh, and just before they all implode into space and die quick decompression
> deaths, some of the passengers would be using Epson Dot 9 pin Matrix
> printers in the Osborn Server room to print out their reports.
>
> Hey! I didn't say in my future everything went the same way, did I?
>
> mapi
 
Archived from groups: comp.periphs.printers,austin.general (More info?)

In article <1VUTe.148529$Hk.17122@pd7tw1no>,
Arthur Entlich <e-printerhelp@mvps.org> wrote:

> What Moore's law failed to mention is that the same multiplier factors
> that allow for invention and progress in electronics, unfortunately also
> allows for nut cases like Mapi to have access to a wider audience to
> annoy with his racist, bigoted rants and slurs.

Moore's Law had nothing to do with invention and progress in electronics
overall, and was never--as in not ever--a social commentary.

Read up on Gordon Moore and what he said, and in what context.
 
Archived from groups: comp.periphs.printers,austin.general (More info?)

In message <Xns96CB2F00E44C8mapi@216.168.3.64>, Mapanari
<whosthat@anonmail.com> writes
>If the NASA program had moved as fast and been free and capitalistic as the
>computer industry, we'd all be on that Pan Am clipper Starships watching
>the moons of Venus
Do you know something we don't?


--
Timothy
 
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me@privacy.net wrote:

> In message <Xns96CB2F00E44C8mapi@216.168.3.64>, Mapanari
> <whosthat@anonmail.com> writes
>
>> If the NASA program had moved as fast and been free and capitalistic
>> as the
>> computer industry, we'd all be on that Pan Am clipper Starships watching
>> the moons of Venus
>

Not too keen on watching anyone moon Venus . . . ;-)

-Taliesyn

> Do you know something we don't?
>
>
 
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me@privacy.net <me@Privacy.Net> wrote:
|| In message <Xns96CB2F00E44C8mapi@216.168.3.64>, Mapanari
|| <whosthat@anonmail.com> writes
||| If the NASA program had moved as fast and been free and
||| capitalistic as the computer industry, we'd all be on that
||| Pan Am clipper Starships watching the moons of Venus
|| Do you know something we don't?
||
||

Yeah, the moons of Venus.. 🙂

--
--
"Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but some abuse the
privilege." - Unknown
 
Archived from groups: comp.periphs.printers (More info?)

In article <1SIY0tKzUFIDFwh5@town-village.demon.co.uk>, me@Privacy.Net ()
wrote:

> Do you know something we don't?

Obviously from an alternate universe where Venus has moons and Pan Am
didn't go bust.

Jon.
 
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"me@privacy.net" <me@Privacy.Net> wrotenews:1SIY0tKzUFIDFwh5@town-
village.demon.co.uk:

> In message <Xns96CB2F00E44C8mapi@216.168.3.64>, Mapanari
> <whosthat@anonmail.com> writes
>>If the NASA program had moved as fast and been free and capitalistic as the
>>computer industry, we'd all be on that Pan Am clipper Starships watching
>>the moons of Venus
> Do you know something we don't?
>
>

Obviously, I know a shitload more than "we" don't.

--
-- His Excellency, Mapanari
Bishop of the Austin Chapter of the
Flying Spaghetti Monster, Lord of all.
 
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"BJ in Texas" <bjtexas@hotmale.con> wrotenews:dw_Te.3489$LZ6.3428
@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net:

> me@privacy.net <me@Privacy.Net> wrote:
>|| In message <Xns96CB2F00E44C8mapi@216.168.3.64>, Mapanari
>|| <whosthat@anonmail.com> writes
>||| If the NASA program had moved as fast and been free and
>||| capitalistic as the computer industry, we'd all be on that
>||| Pan Am clipper Starships watching the moons of Venus
>|| Do you know something we don't?
>||
>||
>
> Yeah, the moons of Venus.. 🙂
>


I prefer gliding past the pudenda of Venus meself...

--
-- His Excellency, Mapanari
Bishop of the Austin Chapter of the
Flying Spaghetti Monster, Lord of all.
 
Archived from groups: comp.periphs.printers,austin.general (More info?)

Moore also didn't take into account people who can only read things
literally. I'm guessing you're an engineer?

Art

Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:

> In article <1VUTe.148529$Hk.17122@pd7tw1no>,
> Arthur Entlich <e-printerhelp@mvps.org> wrote:
>
>
>>What Moore's law failed to mention is that the same multiplier factors
>>that allow for invention and progress in electronics, unfortunately also
>>allows for nut cases like Mapi to have access to a wider audience to
>>annoy with his racist, bigoted rants and slurs.
>
>
> Moore's Law had nothing to do with invention and progress in electronics
> overall, and was never--as in not ever--a social commentary.
>
> Read up on Gordon Moore and what he said, and in what context.
>
 
Archived from groups: comp.periphs.printers,austin.general (More info?)

"Arthur Entlich" <e-printerhelp@mvps.org> wrote in message
news:mUzVe.189406$Hk.99257@pd7tw1no...
> Moore also didn't take into account people who can only read things
> literally. I'm guessing you're an engineer?
>
> Art
>


I'm guessing that you actually have not read moore's law. See

http://www.intel.com/museum/archives/history_docs/mooreslaw.htm

ftp://download.intel.com/museum/Moores_Law/Printed_Materials/Moores_Law_2pg
..pdf

ftp://download.intel.com/museum/Moores_Law/Articles-Press_Releases/Gordon_M
oore_1965_Article.pdf

ftp://download.intel.com/museum/Moores_Law/Articles-Press_Releases/Gordon_M
oore_1975_Speech.pdf

ftp://download.intel.com/museum/Moores_Law/Images_Assets/Moores_Law_Origina
l_Graph_jpg.zip

or go to http://www.intel.com/ and enter the string

moore's law

Into the search box.

And ... yes ... Gordon Moore *is* an Engineer. One who every 'Personal
Computer' owner/user owes a lot of gratitude.
 
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You are guessing wrongly.

Further, Moore's, "law" is not a "law" it is a supposition that has
tended toward being somewhat accurate over the years. It may eventually
hit a brick wall, or perhaps through new discoveries, become an
understatement, like statements about PCs only requiring 640K of memory.

One thing I am pretty sure of, Moore would have similar sentiments to my
own regarding people like "Mapi" and his evocation of Moore in his
bigoted claptrap. Further, I suspect Moore would understand my license
in referring to his "law" as I did. He appears to have a pretty good
understanding of the creative process.

Below I quote part of his bio, which I think shows that even he
understands his "law" is nothing more than a rule of thumb that became
an goal. Most laws represent natural phenomena, as we know them.

In the same manner as Moore's supposition, or rule of thumb has been
couched as a "law", I have taken some liberty with the concept to make
my point about the nature of the postings I was responding to.

The fact that a number of you don't "get" the intent makes me recognize
that many people in this world are unfortunately "stuck" in a
liberalized existence.

Then again, there's still that 38% approval rating that needs explaining
somehow.

BTW: Moore received the National Medal of Technology from George Bush
Sr. in 1990.

But thank you for offering to edify me.

Art


Part of Gordon Moore's bio as provided by Intel:

Gordon E. Moore is currently Chairman Emeritus of Intel Corporation.
Moore co-founded Intel in 1968, serving initially as Executive Vice
President. He became President and Chief Executive Officer in 1975 and
held that post until elected Chairman and Chief Executive Officer in
1979. He remained CEO until 1987 and was named Chairman Emeritus in 1997.

Moore is widely known for "Moore's Law," in which in 1965 he predicted
that the number of transistors the industry would be able to place on a
computer chip would double every year. In 1975, he updated his
prediction to once every two years. While originally intended as a rule
of thumb in 1965, it has become the guiding principle for the industry
to deliver ever-more-powerful semiconductor chips at proportionate
decreases in cost.




RSD99 wrote:

> "Arthur Entlich" <e-printerhelp@mvps.org> wrote in message
> news:mUzVe.189406$Hk.99257@pd7tw1no...
>
>>Moore also didn't take into account people who can only read things
>>literally. I'm guessing you're an engineer?
>>
>>Art
>>
>
>
>
> I'm guessing that you actually have not read moore's law. See
>
> http://www.intel.com/museum/archives/history_docs/mooreslaw.htm
>
> ftp://download.intel.com/museum/Moores_Law/Printed_Materials/Moores_Law_2pg
> .pdf
>
> ftp://download.intel.com/museum/Moores_Law/Articles-Press_Releases/Gordon_M
> oore_1965_Article.pdf
>
> ftp://download.intel.com/museum/Moores_Law/Articles-Press_Releases/Gordon_M
> oore_1975_Speech.pdf
>
> ftp://download.intel.com/museum/Moores_Law/Images_Assets/Moores_Law_Origina
> l_Graph_jpg.zip
>
> or go to http://www.intel.com/ and enter the string
>
> moore's law
>
> Into the search box.
>
> And ... yes ... Gordon Moore *is* an Engineer. One who every 'Personal
> Computer' owner/user owes a lot of gratitude.
>
>
>
 
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Arthur Entlich wrote:

> You are guessing wrongly.
>
> Further, Moore's, "law" is not a "law" it is a supposition that has
> tended toward being somewhat accurate over the years. It may eventually
> hit a brick wall, or perhaps through new discoveries, become an
> understatement, like statements about PCs only requiring 640K of memory.
>
> One thing I am pretty sure of, Moore would have similar sentiments to my
> own regarding people like "Mapi" and his evocation of Moore in his
> bigoted claptrap. Further, I suspect Moore would understand my license
> in referring to his "law" as I did. He appears to have a pretty good
> understanding of the creative process.
>
> Below I quote part of his bio, which I think shows that even he
> understands his "law" is nothing more than a rule of thumb that became
> an goal. Most laws represent natural phenomena, as we know them.
>
> In the same manner as Moore's supposition, or rule of thumb has been
> couched as a "law", I have taken some liberty with the concept to make
> my point about the nature of the postings I was responding to.
>
> The fact that a number of you don't "get" the intent makes me recognize
> that many people in this world are unfortunately "stuck" in a
> liberalized existence.

The above sentence was supposed to read:

The fact that a number of you don't "get" the intent makes me recognize
that many people in this world are unfortunately "stuck" in a
LITERALIZED (as in taking the meaning of things from the literal wording
presented) existence.

>
> Then again, there's still that 38% approval rating that needs explaining
> somehow.
>
> BTW: Moore received the National Medal of Technology from George Bush
> Sr. in 1990.
>
> But thank you for offering to edify me.
>
> Art
>
>
> Part of Gordon Moore's bio as provided by Intel:
>
> Gordon E. Moore is currently Chairman Emeritus of Intel Corporation.
> Moore co-founded Intel in 1968, serving initially as Executive Vice
> President. He became President and Chief Executive Officer in 1975 and
> held that post until elected Chairman and Chief Executive Officer in
> 1979. He remained CEO until 1987 and was named Chairman Emeritus in 1997.
>
> Moore is widely known for "Moore's Law," in which in 1965 he predicted
> that the number of transistors the industry would be able to place on a
> computer chip would double every year. In 1975, he updated his
> prediction to once every two years. While originally intended as a rule
> of thumb in 1965, it has become the guiding principle for the industry
> to deliver ever-more-powerful semiconductor chips at proportionate
> decreases in cost.
>
>
>
>
> RSD99 wrote:
>
>> "Arthur Entlich" <e-printerhelp@mvps.org> wrote in message
>> news:mUzVe.189406$Hk.99257@pd7tw1no...
>>
>>> Moore also didn't take into account people who can only read things
>>> literally. I'm guessing you're an engineer?
>>>
>>> Art
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> I'm guessing that you actually have not read moore's law. See
>>
>> http://www.intel.com/museum/archives/history_docs/mooreslaw.htm
>>
>> ftp://download.intel.com/museum/Moores_Law/Printed_Materials/Moores_Law_2pg
>>
>> .pdf
>>
>> ftp://download.intel.com/museum/Moores_Law/Articles-Press_Releases/Gordon_M
>>
>> oore_1965_Article.pdf
>>
>> ftp://download.intel.com/museum/Moores_Law/Articles-Press_Releases/Gordon_M
>>
>> oore_1975_Speech.pdf
>>
>> ftp://download.intel.com/museum/Moores_Law/Images_Assets/Moores_Law_Origina
>>
>> l_Graph_jpg.zip
>>
>> or go to http://www.intel.com/ and enter the string
>>
>> moore's law
>>
>> Into the search box.
>>
>> And ... yes ... Gordon Moore *is* an Engineer. One who every 'Personal
>> Computer' owner/user owes a lot of gratitude.
>>
>>
>>
 
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