a question about Agaitas ability

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I´ve found this deck on thelasombra and have a uqestion ¡does legios
could actually do that as long as Agaitas ability says when you play a
card, not when discard it???



Deck Name: A Legion of Temptation
Created By: The Lasombra
Description: Bring Agaitas into play. Play 2 Serpentis Discipline cards
on him. Have him play Temptation on himself, and also play Legion when
it comes into hand. Once you have both in place, replace all of your
cards from your prey's library, then take the Legion action to flush
those cards and start over with a hand you can use. Play Meddling of
Semsith on anyone, just get it to pass to reduce your hand size to 6.

Crypt: (12 cards, Min: 25, Max: 34, Avg: 7.33)
3 Agaitas AUS for NEC 6, Harbingers of
Skulls
2 Gisela Harden aus dem FOR NEC 7, Harbingers of
Skulls, Priscus
2 Egothha AUS FOR NEC obf 7, Harbingers of
Skulls
3 Anisa Marianna Lopez aus FOR NEC QUI 8, Harbingers of
Skulls
2 Unre AUS dom FOR NEC ser thn 9, Harbingers of
Skulls, Bishop

Library: (90 cards)
Master (18 cards)
1 Barrens, The
1 Festivo dello Estinto
1 Heidelberg Castle, Germany
1 Hungry Coyote, The
14 Serpentis

Action (19 cards)
6 Legion
13 Temptation

Action Modifier (5 cards)
5 Bribes

Political Action (13 cards)
5 Cardinal Benediction
5 Consanguineous Boon
3 Meddling of Semsith, The

Reaction (19 cards)
6 Enhanced Senses
12 Forced Awakening
1 Telepathic Misdirection

Combat (8 cards)
8 Spiritual Intervention

Combo (8 cards)
3 Form of the Serpent
5 Spectral Divination

 

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In message <1127372633.454145.141380@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
"christianpastor@gmail.com" <christianpastor@gmail.com> writes:
>I´ve found this deck on thelasombra and have a uqestion ¡does legios
>could actually do that as long as Agaitas ability says when you play a
>card, not when discard it???

I think you're mis-reading the deck idea.

>Deck Name: A Legion of Temptation
>Created By: The Lasombra
>Description: Bring Agaitas into play. Play 2 Serpentis Discipline cards
>on him. Have him play Temptation on himself, and also play Legion when
>it comes into hand. Once you have both in place, replace all of your
>cards from your prey's library, then take the Legion action to flush
>those cards and start over with a hand you can use. Play Meddling of
>Semsith on anyone, just get it to pass to reduce your hand size to 6.


The idea, it seems, is that once you have all the set-up ready, you
should play any cards and replace them from your prey's library. Just
normal playing of cards - ignore Legion for now.

Then, when you have a hand of your prey's cards, use the Legion to
discard your hand (and create a vampire etc.) and get a new one *from
your own library*.

End result: you're wasting your prey's library, and being able to
discard them very quickly to prevent you getting a hand of rubbish cards
that you have to discard one-by-one.

The refill from Legion doesn't come from your prey's library.

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James Coupe wrote:
> In message <1127372633.454145.141380@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
> "christianpastor@gmail.com" <christianpastor@gmail.com> writes:
> >I´ve found this deck on thelasombra and have a uqestion ¡does legios
> >could actually do that as long as Agaitas ability says when you play a
> >card, not when discard it???
>
> I think you're mis-reading the deck idea.
>

I'm still kinda confused...

- What's with the Temptation?
- Why the Meddling?
- How does it oust?

 

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Dasein wrote:
> I'm still kinda confused...
>
> - What's with the Temptation?

Unre has Serpentis, and all of the discipline cards (used to make
Legion babies) are Serpentis. Use Temptation to steal away your
prey's vampires, then bleed 'em out.

> - Why the Meddling?

I don't know. Why not?

> - How does it oust?

Make lots of Legion babies. Tempt your prey's vampires away.
Bleed 'em out.


- Ben Peal

 

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fudjo wrote:

>> - Why the Meddling?
>
> I don't know. Why not?

'Cause it makes your hand size 6. Making it that much easier to spend your
whole hand and redraw from your prey's library.


Peter D Bakija
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easily spilled liquids to naked people."
-Brittni Meil

 

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>>- What's with the Temptation?

> Unre has Serpentis, and all of the discipline cards (used to make
> Legion babies) are Serpentis. Use Temptation to steal away your
> prey's vampires, then bleed 'em out.
I think is more to get a free untap in the midle game, puting hinself
on agaitas early in the game while the conditions come for the trick.
Or i´m wrong???

 

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fudjo wrote:
> Dasein wrote:
>
>>I'm still kinda confused...
>>
>>- What's with the Temptation?
>
>
> Unre has Serpentis, and all of the discipline cards (used to make
> Legion babies) are Serpentis. Use Temptation to steal away your
> prey's vampires, then bleed 'em out.

And, of course, for the ultimate-multi-legion-untappy goodness.

http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad/msg/8bfeb985ed31dbcb

 

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In message <1127454596.918742.134700@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>,
"christianpastor@gmail.com" <christianpastor@gmail.com> writes:
>>>- What's with the Temptation?
>
>> Unre has Serpentis, and all of the discipline cards (used to make
>> Legion babies) are Serpentis. Use Temptation to steal away your
>> prey's vampires, then bleed 'em out.
>I think is more to get a free untap in the midle game, puting hinself
>on agaitas early in the game while the conditions come for the trick.
>Or i´m wrong???

I'd say a bit of both. If you have some tasty vampires you can steal,
use some for them. If you need some untap goodness (and are spending a
lot of blood, maybe, to make it more usable), use it for that instead.

Very much a case of a good card needing a skilled player to make the
"right" decision.

--
James Coupe
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In message <b4m9j153el1c30bg9rorcu6hgemm6dg4f1@4ax.com>, salem
<salem_christ.geo@hotmail.com> writes:
<Temptation - play on your prey, or use on your own vampires for untaps>
>and, um, if you have a handful of your prey's library cards, and you
>can tempt one of your prey's vampires...presumably you'll be able to
>do whatever it is _your_ prey does to oust _their_ prey, using their
>cards instead of your own, and doing it to them instead of their prey.

Yeah. It does rely on your prey having a reasonably good offensive deck
to do such things, though.

For example, a handful of light intercept/combat isn't going to do you
that much good - you can't use the intercept during your own turn, and
they're unlikely to block you if you bleed them if they want their
vampire back. Or a heavy master deck. Or a deck that uses some key
master cards to support it - like a Lasombra deck that passes votes with
some breeding fatties (who you decide not to Tempt, because they're
huge) and a Power Structure - so even when you get the weenies, maybe
even with a Crusade or two, you're probably significantly outgunned
anyway.

Of course, if you had a hand of stealth-bleed to throw at them with
Ozmo, go crazy, knock yourself out.

But I'd still say there's a case here for a good player knowing - or
finding out - what's best to do.

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On Fri, 23 Sep 2005 09:33:18 +0100, James Coupe <james@zephyr.org.uk>
scrawled:

>In message <1127454596.918742.134700@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>,
>"christianpastor@gmail.com" <christianpastor@gmail.com> writes:
>>>>- What's with the Temptation?
>>
>>> Unre has Serpentis, and all of the discipline cards (used to make
>>> Legion babies) are Serpentis. Use Temptation to steal away your
>>> prey's vampires, then bleed 'em out.
>>I think is more to get a free untap in the midle game, puting hinself
>>on agaitas early in the game while the conditions come for the trick.
>>Or i´m wrong???
>
>I'd say a bit of both. If you have some tasty vampires you can steal,
>use some for them. If you need some untap goodness (and are spending a
>lot of blood, maybe, to make it more usable), use it for that instead.
>
>Very much a case of a good card needing a skilled player to make the
>"right" decision.

and, um, if you have a handful of your prey's library cards, and you
can tempt one of your prey's vampires...presumably you'll be able to
do whatever it is _your_ prey does to oust _their_ prey, using their
cards instead of your own, and doing it to them instead of their prey.


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