A Question of toys (Air vs ICE)

[Schmide]

Let just start by saying, “I’ve been on vacation for a while and it is time to get back to work. ”

I need to decide on how to layout my new hardware. I’ve been acquiring various pieces of hardware in order to build a super system. As I acquired parts, and after a double order on an Asus V8200, I ended up with enough for two systems. So I’ll just list the basic parts before I ask for advice.

Cases: Coolerguys WindTunnel II and a Vapochill Socket A
Fan: Swiftech MC462-A
CPUs: An Athlon 1333/266 AXIA and a 1400/266 AYHJA
Motherboards: Epox EP-8K7A 761 and Gigabyte GA-7DXR 761
Graphics: Asus V8200 GeForce3 Deluxe (2)
Drives: Maxtor 60GB 7200 and an IBM 75gxp
Various: DDRs, Cables, DVDs, Soundcards, etc.

So far I’m going with the Coolerguys/Swiftech/Epox/Maxtor and the Vapochill/Gigabyte/IBM. I’ll name them “Air” and “Ice” respectively. Because of the complexity of placing the CPU in the Vapochill (all the goo and foam etc), I need to make the CPU choice only once. Does Air get the 1400, as it needs a higher rated chip? Or Does ICE deserve it, as I could reach higher highs. Should I spend extra time using Air to test the two chips to see if one has a higher performance? Will the 1333 act better under super cool conditions and or is the difference between the two chips in indiscernible?

Schmide

 

[FatBurger]

Give the 1400 to Ice, and see if you can get 2GHz

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[wapaaga]

the AYHJA will go much futher then the axia
people are getting it to the area of 1.7 air colled


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[silverpig]

Depends. Do you want a 1.4 GHz system and a 2 GHz system, or two 1.7 GHz systems?

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[Schmide]

I just finished AIR and the best I could get from the 1333/266 on the EPOX was 1564mhz 136x11.5 at 1.95v max cpu temp under load was 35deg.

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[CALV]

WHat about something in betweeen- water? may be another options, the main promlem (if problem is the right word) with overclocking and air cooling is the noise, which is why I'm going watercooled in the very near future.


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[Schmide]

Just finished ICE

I’m sad to say that 2000mhz is just unattainable. In fact 1700 is unattainable.

I have it cranking at 1694/11x154/1.825v and it seems 100% stable.
Evaporator Temp –9c
Back of CPU 14c(idle) 25c(load)
The Gigabyte GA-7DXR has a nice ribbon sensor behind the CPU, which is how the back of CPU temp was taken.

I can post and load Windows 2000 at 1705+ but it will die under load.

Any further increase of voltage causes temps to continue to rise over 26c then lockup.

Schmide

 

[Schmide]

Sad day for the Sub-Supper Clunker, seti set my system out of whack. I guess 154 FSB is a bit too much at this stage of the game. So I took it down to 1671/145x11.5/1.75v and it now runs at –11c(front)/12c(back) very stable. I’ll probably attempt 1683/146x11.5/1.75v after seti finishes a unit.

Schmide

 

[killall]

try lower fsb and higher multiplier

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[peteb]

vapochill won't help you get higher FSB since it is chipset and memory as much as cpu. Get a stable FSB speed then bring up your multiplier for the MHz...

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[CALV]

I dont know weather you can do a voltage mod on the boards you mention, I know on the abit kt7a you can mod the board to give over 2V which should allow you to go higher, Im starting my watercooling project next week and will also be modding the board, full details will be posted <A HREF="http://www.calvsplace.cwc.net" target="_new">HERE</A> under the projects section, I hope to have plenty on the site by the middle of next week, theres not much there at the moment except when I plan to do. If I were you I'd try and find a voltage mod.



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