A10 7850K or FX 8350

[daveios92]

Hello, I am going to build a new PC (for gaming mostly), this time I want to try AMD. I have chosen AMD FX 8350, but current motherboads doesn't offer PCI-E gen3. A10 7850K is APU, but I think it's less powerfull. So the question is, which one should I choose, or some alternative?

 

[timeconsumer]

Do not get an A10 for gaming as you will need a dedicated GPU anyway.

Do not worry about PCI-E 3.0, PCI-E 2.0 motherboards can use 3.0 cards with no performance difference.

 

[Frozen Fractal]

FX 8350 is wayyyyyyyyy better than A10 7850K APU CPU wise. There're no iGP on FX so no comparison for that anyway.

Actually, if you can get a 990FX board, they do support PCI-E 3.0 x16. If you already have a GPU powerful than GT 730 or R5 240, then you don't need an APU. If you are trying to get a budget build with beefy render prowess, then APUs the right choice.

Personally, I'd prefer FX-8350 + a GPU.

 

[CelicaGT]

Do not get an A10 for gaming as you will need a dedicated GPU anyway.

Do not worry about PCI-E 3.0, PCI-E 2.0 motherboards can use 3.0 cards with no performance difference.

Pretty much this ^....do keep in mind that an 8350 *may* neck GPU's in the GTX970 class in some instances....even so it's only in un vsync'd scenario's and not really a bother. I moved up to an i5 from an 8350, mostly because the i5 is better in the CPU heavy games I play.

 

[daveios92]

Yeah don't worry, GPU is another matter =D . Are you sure there is no performance diffence?

 

[CelicaGT]

Yeah don't worry, GPU is another matter =D . Are you sure there is no performance diffence?

Consider that the base frequency on the FX is the Turbo on the A10...plus 2 more modules (4 cores).

 

[daveios92]

I wanted i5 4460 first but I thought I could save some money.

 

[damric]

The only reason to get the FX-8 core is for extreme low budget streaming/recording.

For straight up gaming just get the Athlon 860K. OC'd it nearly reaches Haswell i5 performance.

No AM3+ CPUs can use PCIE 3.0, not that it matters for most configurations.

 

[CelicaGT]

I wanted i5 4460 first but I thought I could save some money.

It's a tough spot in PC gaming right now...with the new intel chips coming out...DDR4....AMD Zen in the next..idk 18 months *prays*. Just buy whats in your budget...go for the best CPU and mobo as they are the hardest and most expensive to upgrade. An i5 setup could run you at least 3 or 4 years before a full system upgrade, that's shooting for Haswell and a Z(H)97 board.

 

[daveios92]

Well I have now i5 2300 ( =D ) for 5 years and only reason I want to upgrade is weak GPU (GTX 460 768mb). I could just upgrade GPU, but my PSU isn't sufficient enough for upgrade. So I devise a plan to build new PC

 

[daveios92]

Now I have pre-build PC worth almost 950$ and by going to Intel the price would jump a lot higher. If you want to give me your opinion -

MSI 970 Gaming
Kingston HyperX Beast 8GB DDR3 1866
SSD Samsung EVO 120 GB
Zalman Z11 NEO
Fortron HYPER 700W
MSI R9 280 Gaming 3G
FX 8350
Scythe 1000 MugenMAX

 

[timeconsumer]

Why prebuilt? For that amount of money you can build a rig twice as good as that.

I have never heard of that PSU, probably not a safe one to use. Stick to Seasonic, XFX, EVGA B2/G2/GS.

 

[bmacsys]

Now I have pre-build PC worth almost 950$ and by going to Intel the price would jump a lot higher. If you want to give me your opinion -

MSI 970 Gaming
Kingston HyperX Beast 8GB DDR3 1866
SSD Samsung EVO 120 GB
Zalman Z11 NEO
Fortron HYPER 700W
MSI R9 280 Gaming 3G
FX 8350
Scythe 1000 MugenMAX

MSI makes terrible AM3+ boards. That is unless you get the GD80. The mosfets are of an extremely low quality and best case just throttle your 8350. Worse case they catch fire or explode and you lose your whole rig. Google MSI exploding mosfets. Good video on Youtube of a guys brand new MSI Krait 970FX board exploding.

 

[daveios92]

Why prebuilt? For that amount of money you can build a rig twice as good as that.

I have never heard of that PSU, probably not a safe one to use. Stick to Seasonic, XFX, EVGA B2/G2/GS.

Pre build. Well may be I have chosen bad words. I have picked the parts but not assembled yet ( I will do it on my own of course). So sorry for that.

 

[odditey]

Hello, I am going to build a new PC (for gaming mostly), this time I want to try AMD. I have chosen AMD FX 8350, but current motherboads doesn't offer PCI-E gen3. A10 7850K is APU, but I think it's less powerfull. So the question is, which one should I choose, or some alternative?

I would go with a10 made same decision about 6 months ago im happy with it a 10 will oc to around 4.7 ghz do that with an fx 8350 lol plus pci 3.0 yea a 10 wins

 

[coolcole01]

the 8350 is the right one if your getting a gpu i ran one for a year at 5.0 so no worries

 

[Martin1982]

I own both an apu and 2 regular desktop an apu is for light gaming and great as an htpc. But do not call it a gaming pc.

Apu 6800k
Amd fx8350
Intel 4690k
Like all of but they have different purposes.

 

[captainmumoy]

MSI 970 Gaming
Kingston HyperX Beast 8GB DDR3 1866
SSD Samsung EVO 120 GB
Zalman Z11 NEO
Fortron HYPER 700W
MSI R9 280 Gaming 3G
FX 8350
Scythe 1000 MugenMAX

MSI gaming board is ok, but if your set on an fx 8350, go with a better board, 97A-UD3p 2.0 version is a MUCH better board (8+2 phase), you could get prices a bit cheaper for same performance, fx 8320e, is efficient and can run side by side with fx 9xxx when overclocked to 4.7-4.8 with right cooling ( GO WITH HYPER EVO 212, or higher). APU ( i have build numerous) there is not point getting if running a dedicated video (unless on a massive restriction), ram is fine for gaming, both boards go up to 32gb if you feel the need.Hyper X is not really needed as well, just look for cl9 @1600-2133 (apu or fx series), ssd is fine for putting the OS on there, psu would look at 750-900watt to give breathing room, as psu is already 250 watt Power consumption. adata makes good cl9 1600mhz ram, which would be cheaper and still good performance. I know built a fx8320e system that shows here, only thing need bigger psu any questions feel free to ask , and my speeds go 4.3-4.8 any day of the week depending how I want to run it

 

[odditey]

Its a toss up especially with mantle passmark scores for a10 7850k oc to 4.5 ghz is (1181 a10) single thread vs (643 FX8150) multithread (3184a10) (3544FX8150) adding the extend instructions and software support I think the a 10 is a better route plus most games only support up to 4 cores anyway Its a decent option because u can game with it until u get a real gfx card and It wont bottleneck 1 gtx 960