Accept Win 10 free offer for later date?

[kol12]

Can I accept the Win 10 free offer to secure my copy but upgrade at a later date? With it expiring soon I want to make sure.

 

[USAFRet]

I paid $200 for Win 8 a year ago, to pay again for Win 10 in the next year would be a loss. I didn't realise Win 8 support was ending so soon.

Continue to run your 8.1 for another year or so.
Then change to 10 if you want.

 

[kol12]

I paid $200 for Win 8 a year ago, to pay again for Win 10 in the next year would be a loss. I didn't realise Win 8 support was ending so soon.

Continue to run your 8.1 for another year or so.
Then change to 10 if you want.

I feel more comfortable with the idea of a clean install. I'm not willing to make the upgrade this week and then risk reverting and wrecking my system. I'd rather plan a good clean install. Has there been any rumors around the retail price of Windows 10?

It will be a shame to miss out on the free upgrade I'm just not sure I've liked Microsoft's approach for a new operating system being an upgrade.

 

[USAFRet]

I paid $200 for Win 8 a year ago, to pay again for Win 10 in the next year would be a loss. I didn't realise Win 8 support was ending so soon.

Continue to run your 8.1 for another year or so.
Then change to 10 if you want.

I feel more comfortable with the idea of a clean install. I'm not willing to make the upgrade this week and then risk reverting and wrecking my system. I'd rather plan a good clean install. Has there been any rumors around the retail price of Windows 10?

It will be a shame to miss out on the free upgrade but I've found Microsoft's approach to the new operating system rather confusing.

The Retail price of Win 10 has been pretty stable for a year.
Somewhere between $90 and $110, depending on who has it on sale today.
I've seen it as low as $70, on sale from Newegg.

 

[dexxterlab97]

Why not upgrade to Win10 and then roll back. I am sure since you upgraded to win10 your product will be registered then.

 

[kol12]

I paid $200 for Win 8 a year ago, to pay again for Win 10 in the next year would be a loss. I didn't realise Win 8 support was ending so soon.

Continue to run your 8.1 for another year or so.
Then change to 10 if you want.

I feel more comfortable with the idea of a clean install. I'm not willing to make the upgrade this week and then risk reverting and wrecking my system. I'd rather plan a good clean install. Has there been any rumors around the retail price of Windows 10?

It will be a shame to miss out on the free upgrade but I've found Microsoft's approach to the new operating system rather confusing.

The Retail price of Win 10 has been pretty stable for a year.
Somewhere between $90 and $110, depending on who has it on sale today.
I've seen it as low as $70, on sale from Newegg.

Software isn't available to me in New Zealand from Newegg. I'm looking at $200 NZD to buy it from the Microsoft NZ website.

Can you think of anywhere that sells digital copies that would be available to NZ?

 

[USAFRet]

I paid $200 for Win 8 a year ago, to pay again for Win 10 in the next year would be a loss. I didn't realise Win 8 support was ending so soon.

Continue to run your 8.1 for another year or so.
Then change to 10 if you want.

I feel more comfortable with the idea of a clean install. I'm not willing to make the upgrade this week and then risk reverting and wrecking my system. I'd rather plan a good clean install. Has there been any rumors around the retail price of Windows 10?

It will be a shame to miss out on the free upgrade but I've found Microsoft's approach to the new operating system rather confusing.

The Retail price of Win 10 has been pretty stable for a year.
Somewhere between $90 and $110, depending on who has it on sale today.
I've seen it as low as $70, on sale from Newegg.

Software isn't available to me in New Zealand from Newegg. I'm looking at $200 NZD to buy it from the Microsoft NZ website.

Can you think of anywhere that sells digital copies that would be available to NZ?

That is the same price it would be from any valid reseller in NZD.
If you find it much cheaper, it is not valid.

 

[kol12]

Cheapest I've found in NZ is $153. http://pricespy.co.nz/category.php?k=736&o=produkt_pris_inkmoms#prodlista

I would prefer the digital iso though.

 

[USAFRet]

Cheapest I've found in NZ is $153. http://pricespy.co.nz/category.php?k=736&o=produkt_pris_inkmoms#prodlista

I would prefer the digital iso though.

You can download the ISO direct from Microsoft, for free.
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10/

The license key is what actually costs money.

 

[kol12]

Cheapest I've found in NZ is $153. http://pricespy.co.nz/category.php?k=736&o=produkt_pris_inkmoms#prodlista

I would prefer the digital iso though.

You can download the ISO direct from Microsoft, for free.
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10/

The license key is what actually costs money.

Who's selling the licence key on it's own?

 

[dexxterlab97]

Cheapest I've found in NZ is $153. http://pricespy.co.nz/category.php?k=736&o=produkt_pris_inkmoms#prodlista

I would prefer the digital iso though.

You can download the ISO direct from Microsoft, for free.
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10/

The license key is what actually costs money.

Who's selling the licence key on it's own?

Sellers... basically when you buy Windows 10 you are buying licence key not a physical disc (well you could)

 

[USAFRet]

Cheapest I've found in NZ is $153. http://pricespy.co.nz/category.php?k=736&o=produkt_pris_inkmoms#prodlista

I would prefer the digital iso though.

You can download the ISO direct from Microsoft, for free.
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10/

The license key is what actually costs money.

Who's selling the licence key on it's own?

It does not matter.
You can purchase it as a DVD, USB, or download direct from Microsoft.
But they all come with a valid license key.
Which can be used with the ISO file you can create from the MediaCreation tool.

 

[kol12]

Why not upgrade to Win10 and then roll back. I am sure since you upgraded to win10 your product will be registered then.

Strongly considering this but I'm worried the rollback might not go smoothly. I saw a screenshot warning that some apps might have to be reinstalled after the rollback.

I make regular Macrium Reflect system image backups so I suppose I could always restore If I needed to...

 

[dexxterlab97]

Why not upgrade to Win10 and then roll back. I am sure since you upgraded to win10 your product will be registered then.

Strongly considering this but I'm worried the rollback might not go smoothly. I saw a screenshot warning that some apps might have to be reinstalled after the rollback.

I make regular Macrium Reflect system image backups so I suppose I could always restore If I needed to...

Backup everything before doing anything. I did a clean reset from Windows 10 to Windows 8 and now I am using both OS at the same time.

 

[USAFRet]

Why not upgrade to Win10 and then roll back. I am sure since you upgraded to win10 your product will be registered then.

Strongly considering this but I'm worried the rollback might not go smoothly. I saw a screenshot warning that some apps might have to be reinstalled after the rollback.

I make regular Macrium Reflect system image backups so I suppose I could always restore If I needed to...

A Macrium Reflect full disk image is better than relying on the Win 10 roll back function.
Create a new Image, right before you Upgrade.
If the Upgrade fails, or you don't like it....recover from that Image.

I have done this.
It works.

 

[kol12]

Why not upgrade to Win10 and then roll back. I am sure since you upgraded to win10 your product will be registered then.

Strongly considering this but I'm worried the rollback might not go smoothly. I saw a screenshot warning that some apps might have to be reinstalled after the rollback.

I make regular Macrium Reflect system image backups so I suppose I could always restore If I needed to...

A Macrium Reflect full disk image is better than relying on the Win 10 roll back function.
Create a new Image, right before you Upgrade.
If the Upgrade fails, or you don't like it....recover from that Image.

I have done this.
It works.

It's not mainly a matter of whether I like it or not, it's that I wouldn't want to be running my system in the upgraded state for too long. I would rather do the upgrade and get a wee feel for it but then restore my Win 8.1 image to do my backups before doing a Win 10 clean install when I decide too.

Sound doable?

 

[USAFRet]

Make an image of the current system right before you Upgrade to Win 10.

 

[kol12]

Make an image of the current system right before you Upgrade to Win 10.

Right, and use the image to rollback instead of the rollback feature?

I think I'm going to go with this, I'm starting to think you'd be silly not to accept a free OS...

 

[USAFRet]

Make an image of the current system right before you Upgrade to Win 10.

Right, and use the image to rollback instead of the rollback feature?

I think I'm going to go with this, I'm starting to think you'd be silly not to accept a free OS...

Yes.
That image you make with Macrium Reflect is more reliable than the Windows Roll back feature. Of course, it only has what the system was at the moment you made that image.

Overall, Win 10 is mostly a no brainer. But...it's not a 'free OS'. Just an newer version of what you have now.

You have 1 week.

 

[kol12]

Make an image of the current system right before you Upgrade to Win 10.

Right, and use the image to rollback instead of the rollback feature?

I think I'm going to go with this, I'm starting to think you'd be silly not to accept a free OS...

Yes.
That image you make with Macrium Reflect is more reliable than the Windows Roll back feature. Of course, it only has what the system was at the moment you made that image.

Overall, Win 10 is mostly a no brainer. But...it's not a 'free OS'. Just an newer version of what you have now.

You have 1 week.

That's why I wouldn't want to spend too much time in the upgrade environment making system changes etc. Basically I'm looking at this as a way of securing my free upgrade so I can clean install once I'm more prepared. Seem legitimate? I mean it's going to be within the next year sometime maybe sooner.

I haven't really done any restoring with Macrium, in this case I would restore my image from within Macrium after the upgrade right?

 

[kol12]

This is the part I wanted to be sure about, I quote from another website:

"Better still, taking advantage of the upgrade doesn’t “consume” or alter your license. This means your Windows 7, 8, or 8.1 license will remain as is, allowing you to reactivate as you see fit (subject to any existing licensing agreements)."

So basically once you've accepted the Win 10 upgrade you own Win 10. You could decide to reinstall Win 8 and still own Win 10 for later right?

But in my case If I restore my Win 8.1 system image instead of using the Win 10 rollback feature will Microsoft somehow be able to tell I've done this? Would my Win 8.1 licence be compromised in anyway by doing that? Would the Win 10 licence I obtained still remain legitimate?

I've also heard that if you rollback from Win 10 you only have 30 days back in your previous OS. Can anyone confirm this?

 

[USAFRet]

This is the part I wanted to be sure about, I quote from another website:

"Better still, taking advantage of the upgrade doesn’t “consume” or alter your license. This means your Windows 7, 8, or 8.1 license will remain as is, allowing you to reactivate as you see fit (subject to any existing licensing agreements)."

So basically once you've accepted the Win 10 upgrade you own Win 10. You could decide to reinstall Win 8 and still own Win 10 for later right?

But in my case If I restore my Win 8.1 system image instead of using the Win 10 rollback feature will Microsoft somehow be able to tell I've done this? Would my Win 8.1 licence be compromised in anyway by doing that? Would the Win 10 licence I obtained still remain legitimate?

I've also heard that if you rollback from Win 10 you only have 30 days back in your previous OS. Can anyone confirm this?

You don't get to use both. This is an upgrade for your 8.1 license, not a whole new free license.
Yes, they can tell you are using both.

30 days to roll back is correct.

 

[kol12]

This is the part I wanted to be sure about, I quote from another website:

"Better still, taking advantage of the upgrade doesn’t “consume” or alter your license. This means your Windows 7, 8, or 8.1 license will remain as is, allowing you to reactivate as you see fit (subject to any existing licensing agreements)."

So basically once you've accepted the Win 10 upgrade you own Win 10. You could decide to reinstall Win 8 and still own Win 10 for later right?

But in my case If I restore my Win 8.1 system image instead of using the Win 10 rollback feature will Microsoft somehow be able to tell I've done this? Would my Win 8.1 licence be compromised in anyway by doing that? Would the Win 10 licence I obtained still remain legitimate?

I've also heard that if you rollback from Win 10 you only have 30 days back in your previous OS. Can anyone confirm this?

You don't get to use both. This is an upgrade for your 8.1 license, not a whole new free license.
Yes, they can tell you are using both.

30 days to roll back is correct.

Ok, so I won't be doing anything "wrong" by restoring my system image if I decide too right?

Should I be able to restore an image using Macrium within Windows 10 after the upgrade or will I need to do it with something bootable?

I'm curious as to when you restore an system image and how that works. Does it format the drive and then copy everything back or does it look for what's changed in the particular image your restoring and correct that?

 

[USAFRet]

Ok, so I won't be doing anything "wrong" by restoring my system image if I decide too right?

Should I be able to restore an image using Macrium within Windows 10 after the upgrade or will I need to do it with something bootable?

I'm curious as to when you restore an system image and how that works. Does it format the drive and then copy everything back or does it look for what's changed in the particular image your restoring and correct that?

Correct, nothing 'wrong'.

A Macrium full image will wipe the disk completely, and return it to the state it was when you made the image.

 

[kol12]

Ok, so I won't be doing anything "wrong" by restoring my system image if I decide too right?

Should I be able to restore an image using Macrium within Windows 10 after the upgrade or will I need to do it with something bootable?

I'm curious as to when you restore an system image and how that works. Does it format the drive and then copy everything back or does it look for what's changed in the particular image your restoring and correct that?

Correct, nothing 'wrong'.

A Macrium full image will wipe the disk completely, and return it to the state it was when you made the image.

Alright. Do SSD's like to be fully wiped? What about my question regarding where to restore the image from, within Windows 10 after the upgrade or with the Macrium boot environment?

 

[kol12]

Is the percentage rate pretty high for system image restoring to be successful? I probably sound paranoid but I've never needed to restore a system image...