Question Accidentally installed SSD with my PC powered on

[Minutoh]

I forgot I left my PC on overnight to run a memory test, so it wasn’t even in sleep mode. I accidentally installed a NVME SSD while it was on. Is it possible I damaged anything like the SSD or any other parts? The PC seems to be booting up fine at least, and I’m able to boot into that SSD. Could this degrade the performance of any of my parts though?

Build: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/fpfDLs

 

[klavs]

I've done the same mistake for for a couple of different types of disk during the years, and so far nothing was damaged.

 

[Lutfij]

Was the computer in sleep mode? If the system is booting fine, leave it be but please keep an eye on the drive and the performance of the system. Next time, make sure the system is powered down unless you're looking for an excuse to get a drive upgrade(or worst case scenario, a full system upgrade).

 

[KyaraM]

Hm, if everything is working fine, I think it should be okay. I would advise to properly shut down the system overnight, though, as a general best practice. It might take a moment longer to boot, but things like this won't happen again, and you likely save a couple bucks on your electricity bill as a bonus. It might not seem like much, but adds up over time, and depending on where you are might make a noticeable difference.

As a summary, though, in general, it is not recommended to do this, but should be fine in this case since everything is working normally.

 

[Minutoh]

I've done the same mistake for for a couple of different types of disk during the years, and so far nothing was damaged.

that’s good to hear. I definitely won’t do this again in the future, but I’m glad that it hasn’t damage anythin even if my PC was actually on and not in sleep mode.

Was the computer in sleep mode? If the system is booting fine, leave it be but please keep an eye on the drive and the performance of the system. Next time, make sure the system is powered down unless you're looking for an excuse to get a drive upgrade(or worst case scenario, a full system upgrade).

it was not in sleep mode; it was completely on. I was running a memory test and I just turned the monitor off so it wouldn’t be too bright while I was sleeping. Next time, I’m just gonna leave the monitor on lol. Even the minimum Brightness is a bit too bright, but I’d rather deal with that than destroy my PC.

Is it possible this degraded my PC’s performance then in a more subtle way? Should I just make sure everything is running as it was before and not crashing or BSODing or anything?

Hm, if everything is working fine, I think it should be okay. I would advise to properly shut down the system overnight, though, as a general best practice. It might take a moment longer to boot, but things like this won't happen again, and you likely save a couple bucks on your electricity bill as a bonus. It might not seem like much, but adds up over time, and depending on where you are might make a noticeable difference.

As a summary, though, in general, it is not recommended to do this, but should be fine in this case since everything is working normally.

I generally shut down my PC, but I left it on overnight to run a memory test. It wasn’t even in sleep mode then which is probably a bit worse. I just turned off the monitor and forgot it was on, so I’m just leaving the monitor on next time lol. Is it possible this degraded my performance in a subtle way, or would any faults be immediately noticeable?

 

[Lutfij]

it was not in sleep mode; it was completely on.
If you didn't see the fans spinning in your system, there might be other things wrong with your (otherwise properly spec'd) build. I say otherwise since I'd have picked up a slightly higher wattage PSU for the build, to have as headroom.

As opposed to the other poster, please don't think you'll be able to get away with this form of installation in the future.

 

[Minutoh]

it was not in sleep mode; it was completely on.
If you didn't see the fans spinning in your system, there might be other things wrong with your (otherwise properly spec'd) build. I say otherwise since I'd have picked up a slightly higher wattage PSU for the build, to have as headroom.

As opposed to the other poster, please don't think you'll be able to get away with this form of installation in the future.

my fans actually were on, but I just completely missed them somehow until they stopped spinning when I tried to turn my PC “on”… in my defense, I just woke up a minute prior and decided to install a new SSD, so another lesson I’m taking from this is don’t do that lol.

I had to get my PSU replaced since it was making weird sounds, and Super Flower actually gave me a Super Flower Leadex V Gold 1000W PSU for the same price since mine was out of stock. Is 1000W good enough for my build then?

Yeah, I’ll definitely take steps to ensure I don’t make a mistake like this again. I’ll leave my monitor on, make sure I unplug my PC, and avoid changing out parts when I’m tired as hell lol.

 

[klavs]

As opposed to the other poster, please don't think you'll be able to get away with this form of installation in the future.

I didn't make any claims, I reported my real world experience. Obviously the OP needs to test his system to make sure it's ok, which he is well aware of. And obviously, it's not a good idea to swap or add new hardware without turning the system off and unplugging it (then try to turn the system on while it's unplugged, and remove static electricity from yourself).

I most definitely didn't claim that we can expect to get away with this kind of behavior.

 

[KyaraM]

my fans actually were on, but I just completely missed them somehow until they stopped spinning when I tried to turn my PC “on”… in my defense, I just woke up a minute prior and decided to install a new SSD, so another lesson I’m taking from this is don’t do that lol.

I had to get my PSU replaced since it was making weird sounds, and Super Flower actually gave me a Super Flower Leadex V Gold 1000W PSU for the same price since mine was out of stock. Is 1000W good enough for my build then?

Yeah, I’ll definitely take steps to ensure I don’t make a mistake like this again. I’ll leave my monitor on, make sure I unplug my PC, and avoid changing out parts when I’m tired as hell lol.

1000W are more than enough. I actually think your old PSU already was, too, I run a 4070Ti on a 750W PSU without any issues, my watt meter doesn't even approach 400W most of the time in games and that is with my main monitor connected to it as well, so you can substract about 40-60W easily. It was similar with the old(er) 3070Ti that actually used more power while gaming, lol.

About your worries regarding degradation of your system, I don't think you have to. But I would test your drives and monitor your system for a while just to be sure, and not install new hardware while half asleep in the future 😉

 

[Minutoh]

I didn't make any claims, I reported my real world experience. Obviously the OP needs to test his system to make sure it's ok, which he is well aware of. And obviously, it's not a good idea to swap or add new hardware without turning the system off and unplugging it (then try to turn the system on while it's unplugged, and remove static electricity from yourself).

I most definitely didn't claim that we can expect to get away with this kind of behavior.

Ive been testing my system, and it seems to be working fine so far. It is relieving to know that other people have made the same dumb mistake as me and haven’t had any issues. I definitely won’t do it again though. Thanks!

1000W are more than enough. I actually think your old PSU already was, too, I run a 4070Ti on a 750W PSU without any issues, my watt meter doesn't even approach 400W most of the time in games and that is with my main monitor connected to it as well, so you can substract about 40-60W easily. It was similar with the old(er) 3070Ti that actually used more power while gaming, lol.

About your worries regarding degradation of your system, I don't think you have to. But I would test your drives and monitor your system for a while just to be sure, and not install new hardware while half asleep in the future 😉

Oh okay I see. I wouldn’t pay extra for more watts, but it’s nice that I essentially got a 1000W one for $100 off lol.

and that’s good to hear that I don’t really have to worry about degradation. I suppose any issues would probably be more obvious like crashes, freezes, or just not booting up. I’ll keep testing my drives and monitoring everything to make sure though. And I definitely will make sure I’m fully awake in the future too lol.

 

[fzabkar]

The +3.3V incoming power for the P5 SSD is switched by a tiny MOSFET located between the SDRAM and NAND. Thereafter it is down -regulated by the 90540QX102 PMIC.

The +3.3V incoming power for the P3 SSD is protected by a current limit switch. Thereafter the supply is down -regulated by several DC-DC converters.

I would think that it would be unlikely that the SSDs sustained any damage.


Crucial P5 Plus 2TB power ICs:

https://www.linuxlookup.com/sites/d...cial-p5-plus-1tb-nvme-ssd-9.jpg?itok=hj8YC_C2
https://pic.pimg.tw/showmer/1655752372-1598635241-g_l.jpg

Crucial P3 power ICs:

https://news.mynavi.jp/article/20221230-2550283/images/003.jpg
https://cdn.teknomers.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/Onemli-P3-SSD-Incelemesi-Kati-Ikincil-SSD.jpg
https://cdn.mos.cms.futurecdn.net/qduzLbrN3tTRUKXVwEJF7j.jpg


CSD13303W1015, Texas Instruments, N-Channel NexFET Power MOSFET, 12V, 3.5A, 18 mOhm Rdson, marking 13303, WLP-6:
https://www.ti.com/lit/gpn/csd13303w1015

MP5036AGJ, Monolithic Power, 5V, 0.4A - 5A Current Limit Switch with 5.75V Over-Voltage Clamp, marking BGQy, TSOT23-6:
https://wwwmonolithicpower.com/en/d.../document_type/Datasheet/lang/en/sku/MP5036A/

 

[Minutoh]

The +3.3V incoming power for the P5 SSD is switched by a tiny MOSFET located between the SDRAM and NAND. Thereafter it is down -regulated by the 90540QX102 PMIC.

The +3.3V incoming power for the P3 SSD is protected by a current limit switch. Thereafter the supply is down -regulated by several DC-DC converters.

I would think that it would be unlikely that the SSDs sustained any damage.


Crucial P5 Plus 2TB power ICs:

https://www.linuxlookup.com/sites/d...cial-p5-plus-1tb-nvme-ssd-9.jpg?itok=hj8YC_C2
https://pic.pimg.tw/showmer/1655752372-1598635241-g_l.jpg

Crucial P3 power ICs:

https://news.mynavi.jp/article/20221230-2550283/images/003.jpg
https://cdn.teknomers.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/Onemli-P3-SSD-Incelemesi-Kati-Ikincil-SSD.jpg
https://cdn.mos.cms.futurecdn.net/qduzLbrN3tTRUKXVwEJF7j.jpg


CSD13303W1015, Texas Instruments, N-Channel NexFET Power MOSFET, 12V, 3.5A, 18 mOhm Rdson, marking 13303, WLP-6:
https://www.ti.com/lit/gpn/csd13303w1015

MP5036AGJ, Monolithic Power, 5V, 0.4A - 5A Current Limit Switch with 5.75V Over-Voltage Clamp, marking BGQy, TSOT23-6:
https://wwwmonolithicpower.com/en/d.../document_type/Datasheet/lang/en/sku/MP5036A/

thanks! I had no idea that you can look up this kinda stuff and all, so that’s really nice to have. It’s good that I probably didn’t damage my SSDs then due to all this protection. Is it possible I damaged any other parts if I touched them by accident like the motherboard pins, PCIE slots, the CPU (though I guess that’s at least covered by my cooler), any cables, or my RAM, or do all of these parts have similar protections as well? Where do you look up this kinda stuff anyway? It’s definitely interesting to learn.

 

[fzabkar]

I've been watching the data recovery forums for over a decade, and I've examined many SSD and HDD PCBs. I also have an electronics background.

As for other damage, I have no idea. It would depend on whether you disturbed anything.

 

[Minutoh]

I've been watching the data recovery forums for over a decade, and I've examined many SSD and HDD PCBs. I also have an electronics background.

As for other damage, I have no idea. It would depend on whether you disturbed anything.

Oh okay that makes sense. I hope I can get to your level one day! And I see, that makes sense. I don’t think I disturbed anything else. I definitely didn’t disturb the CPU, GPU, RAM, or any cables. I may have disturbed the surrounding areas on the mobo though.