[SOLVED] Achievable Goal? Buying Today's New Higher End Overclockable Motherboards At Reduced Price As Old In A Few Years

[Deleted member 2712953]

Current planned parts to buy before overclocking in the future;

CPU: i-5 9600K

GPU: RTX 2070

COOLER: Cheap, safe, lightweight, dependable, for high demanding games like Battlefield V, etc, with my unclocked CPU and GPU. Temporary until I start overclocking in few years.

MOTHERBOARD: A very cheap, non-clockable, non-multi GPU slot, basic, 1080P 144mhz, 300 series, soley for gaming, that I would eventually be willing to replace with a safe and very high overclockable motherboard, when future games make it necessary to finally start overclocking my CPU. Basically I want to spend something under or just a little over $100 on a motherboard now, and then when it is necessary to overclock my CPU later I could just upgrade the motherboard. I figure in a few years the price of these like $600 motherboards would drop to a more attainable price, like $100-$200 or so. I've gathered that coolers can typically keep overclocked CPUs cool, however with the limited available motherboards in my current $130 motherboard budget, there aren't any that can prevent my motherboard from reaching serious heating temperatures if I wanted to max overclock. And just because a computer says the motherboard is a certain safe degrees, the reading is actually completely inaccurate and destructive, compared to when checking the temperature of the motherboard by sticking a proper temperature reading device down onto the motherboard area next to the max overclocked CPU.

This is my first PC build, so I'm wondering if this is possible, will companies still be selling todays high-end, extreme overclockable motherboards, compatible with my Overclockable CPU, in a few years? What is the estimated price that they will drop to?

Thank you in advance.

 

[velocityg4]

They certainly won't drop enough anytime soon just to get another 0.1 Ghz. It would make more sense to get a low end Z-series motherboard. Then plan on replacing your 9600K with a 9900K in the future. By the way my ancient Z77 motherboard cost $180 when I bought it. I just looked on eBay and someone bought a used one for $150.

Honestly, consumer boards over $200 are just filled with bells and whistles most people will never use. You can get a great quality motherboard in the $150 to $180 range that will meet all your overclocking needs. Your build is already pricey. Just spend the extra $20 now and get a motherboard which will OC well.

 

[USAFRet]

" just upgrade the motherboard"

You do realize that may involve a full OS reinstall.


You don't need a $600 motherboard to OC with the other parts you've selected.
You can probably find one at or near your current $130 budget.

 

[Deleted member 2712953]

@velocity

Overclocking the 3.7 GHZ 9600K tends to bump up to 5.0/5.1 GHZ though, not "0.1 GHZ". Am I missing something?

 

[USAFRet]

What is the current parts list and budget you visualize?

 

[Deleted member 2712953]

@USAFRet

I wouldn't mind installing OS again. Id figure it would be after 3-4 years.

So far I've gathered that only a $600 board has resistant VRM and heatsinks that is required full overclocking for 9th gen. Additionally, water coolers don't stand a chance.

z390 aorus xtreme $600. Full OC
z390 aorus master $300. Not Full OC, but "best value per dollar".

As for my budget and current parts;

$1300 budget

*2666 mhz ram, not 2400.

Give or take:
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/w9McLJ

 

[USAFRet]

@USAFRet

I wouldn't mind installing OS again. Id figure it would be after 3-4 years.

So far I've gathered that only a $600 board has resistant VRM and heatsinks that is required full overclocking for 9th gen. Additionally, water coolers don't stand a chance.

z390 aorus xtreme $600. Full OC
z390 aorus master $300. Not Full OC, but "best value per dollar".

And at 4 years, you may be considering a new CPU anyway.
It sounds like you're trying to chase the magical 'future proof'. Doesn't exist.

If you buy cheap now with the thought of buying the holy grail later...that grail may or may not be 'cheaper'.
Meanwhile, you've lost out on years of the performance you desire.

 

[Deleted member 2712953]

@USAFRet

But look how slow GHZ is increasing amongst CPUs. Right now, all current new gaming CPUs are only at around 3.7 GHZ before being overclocked to about 4.7 - 5.2 GHZ. Yet, current games require 2.66 - 3.36 GHZ for maximum output, at least at 1080p. I'm hoping in 3-4 years, a 5.1 GHZ CPU could either be required for max requirement, or at least be plenty enough to help me get my money's worth. Consoles are still only running at 30 fps, and have much lower visual quality compared to mid-high gaming PCs. The Xbox One X is the first 60 fps console. I'm pretty sure in 3-7 years my PC will still play marginally better than Xbox Two and PlayStation 5 after I overclock for just $100 - $200 (new motherboard), I would expect.

I've gathered it is possible to overkill on RAM. How well 3.7 GHZ gaming compares to a console, you +30-70 higher fps. On a 144 mhz monitor, it will be even higher. I don't need to go overkill on my CPU. Instead, my plan is to save $450 now, and in 3-4 years, spend $150 on a well equipped old 2019 board to keep me in the race. I'd figure that is why overclocking is accessible in the first place.

 

[USAFRet]

@USAFRet

But look how slow GHZ is increasing amongst CPUs. Right now, all current new gaming CPUs are only at around 3.7 GHZ before being overclocked to about 4.7 - 5.2 GHZ. Yet, current games require 2.66 - 3.36 GHZ for maximum output, at least at 1080p. I'm hoping in 3-4 years, a 5.1 GHZ CPU could either be required for max requirement, or at least be plenty enough to help me get my money's worth. Consoles are still only running at 30 fps, and have much lower visual quality compared to mid-high gaming PCs. The Xbox One X is the first 60 fps console. I'm pretty sure in 3-7 years my PC will still play marginally better than Xbox Two and PlayStation 5 after I overclock for just $100 - $200 (new motherboard), I would expect.

GHz is not the magical number you need to look at.
15 years ago, we bought a Pentium 4 that clocked at 3.4GHz.
2019, we buy an i7-8700k that clocks at 3.7GHz (turbo to 4.something)

Obviously, the GHz number is not the determinant of how much work each chip can do.

 

[Deleted member 2712953]

@USAFRet

I stand corrected about the importance of GHz. Thank you.

 

[USAFRet]

@USAFRet

I stand corrected about the importance of GHz. Thank you.

No prob. That mindset happens to a lot of people.
We're running into the limits of physics and heat dissipation. And have been for years.

The main thing is to build a compatible system today, that does what you want within your budget.
And 4 years from now? Reevaluate, and replace the CPU/motherboard at that time, if needed.
Don't miss out on performance now, with the thought of trying to keep that same CPU platform in 2013.

 

[velocityg4]

@velocity

Overclocking the 3.7 GHZ 9600K tends to bump up to 5.0/5.1 GHZ though, not "0.1 GHZ". Am I missing something?

I was referring to the difference between an average low/mid range Z series OC ability and some ultra high end model. The OC limit isn't typically that the motherboard can't handle anymore. It is that the CPU can't handle anymore. At least long term or without exotic cooling. Some high end boards and considerable manual tweaking might let you get an extra 0.1Ghz at the same voltage.