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When I bought my desktop computer it had a copy of (manufacturer
branded) XP Home on CD. As far as I can tell it is normal XP Home
except for minor details such as MSIE start page. I installed it from
CD onto my desktop computer some months ago and it activated fine.

Today I installed it onto my notebook computer and typed in its
activation key to activate it over the internet. Again it activated
fine.

So I have the same XP Home with same activation key, activated and
working on two different computers. Is this supposed to happen? Isn't
the activation system supposed to prevent the same key being used on
two different computers? Don't they "phone home" to Microsoft and
can't Microsoft figure out that two different computers are running
the same activation key?

Can I install it on a third computer? Is there a period, eg a month,
before it is possible to activate using this same key?

Brief response and perhaps a URL to explain the activation system, if
you would be so kind.
 
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Just as most everything else, there are ways around activation and you
apparently found one.
See this link for details about Activation:
http://aumha.org/win5/a/wpa.htm

Just because it installed and activated, does not mean it is OK.
Your Windows XP is licensed for only one computer and if OEM, only for the
original computer.
Your second installation violates the EULA you agreed and a 3rd would as
well.

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<rta897@mynot.spam> wrote in message
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> When I bought my desktop computer it had a copy of (manufacturer
> branded) XP Home on CD. As far as I can tell it is normal XP Home
> except for minor details such as MSIE start page. I installed it from
> CD onto my desktop computer some months ago and it activated fine.
>
> Today I installed it onto my notebook computer and typed in its
> activation key to activate it over the internet. Again it activated
> fine.
>
> So I have the same XP Home with same activation key, activated and
> working on two different computers. Is this supposed to happen? Isn't
> the activation system supposed to prevent the same key being used on
> two different computers? Don't they "phone home" to Microsoft and
> can't Microsoft figure out that two different computers are running
> the same activation key?
>
> Can I install it on a third computer? Is there a period, eg a month,
> before it is possible to activate using this same key?
>
> Brief response and perhaps a URL to explain the activation system, if
> you would be so kind.
 
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It is clearly a violation of the EULA to install the same Windows XP
license on a second computer without removing Windows XP from
the original computer.

Please read the EULA by going to Start > Run and type: WINVER
and hit enter.

You need to purchase a new Windows XP license for each
installation on a different computer.

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"rta897" wrote:

| When I bought my desktop computer it had a copy of (manufacturer
| branded) XP Home on CD. As far as I can tell it is normal XP Home
| except for minor details such as MSIE start page. I installed it from
| CD onto my desktop computer some months ago and it activated fine.
|
| Today I installed it onto my notebook computer and typed in its
| activation key to activate it over the internet. Again it activated
| fine.
|
| So I have the same XP Home with same activation key, activated and
| working on two different computers. Is this supposed to happen? Isn't
| the activation system supposed to prevent the same key being used on
| two different computers? Don't they "phone home" to Microsoft and
| can't Microsoft figure out that two different computers are running
| the same activation key?
|
| Can I install it on a third computer? Is there a period, eg a month,
| before it is possible to activate using this same key?
|
| Brief response and perhaps a URL to explain the activation system, if
| you would be so kind.
 
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It is locked to the hardware in the sense that if you change so much
hardware you will need to re-activate again.

Really not an issue if you activate too many times, you will just have
to ring up and ask them to reset it. Just don't mention the number of
PCs you have used to activate it on :)


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Jupiter Jones [MVP] wrote:
> Perhaps the OP wanted an honest answer.

LOL! Honest?! Like I've already said, you are not a judge, and only a
judge can tell the OP whether he is in violation of the license. Your
OPINION is worth squat. Only a judge's matters.

> I never suggested I was a judge, but I understand you need to make it
> seem that way to support your anti Microsoft agenda.

LOL. My agenda is pro-consumer, pro-individual, and pro-personal
privacy. It's not my fault that MS is anti-anything not
pro-corporation.

> As usual you are incapable of answering without insults.

Truth hurts, and its not my fault you feel insulted by the truth.

> Display of you normal character yet again.

Yep. I am an individual that is willing to tell the truth according to
reality, and you are a comformist that spreads the FUD and legally
unsubstantiated nonsense of a convicted predatory monopoly.

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You may have had the manufacaturer's specially licensed XP version
pre-installed. This license allows the manufacturer to pre-install XP on a
lot of their PCs before the sale. They include an XP license (CD Key) and
XP disk in order to allow your to re-install XP onto your PC. This still
does not mean you can install the XP onto a different PC.


<rta897@mynot.spam> wrote in message
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> When I bought my desktop computer it had a copy of (manufacturer
> branded) XP Home on CD. As far as I can tell it is normal XP Home
> except for minor details such as MSIE start page. I installed it from
> CD onto my desktop computer some months ago and it activated fine.
>
> Today I installed it onto my notebook computer and typed in its
> activation key to activate it over the internet. Again it activated
> fine.
>
> So I have the same XP Home with same activation key, activated and
> working on two different computers. Is this supposed to happen? Isn't
> the activation system supposed to prevent the same key being used on
> two different computers? Don't they "phone home" to Microsoft and
> can't Microsoft figure out that two different computers are running
> the same activation key?
>
> Can I install it on a third computer? Is there a period, eg a month,
> before it is possible to activate using this same key?
>
> Brief response and perhaps a URL to explain the activation system, if
> you would be so kind.
 
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Yves Leclerc wrote:
> You may have had the manufacaturer's specially licensed XP version
> pre-installed. This license allows the manufacturer to pre-install
> XP on a lot of their PCs before the sale. They include an XP license
> (CD Key) and XP disk in order to allow your to re-install XP onto
> your PC. This still does not mean you can install the XP onto a
> different PC.

No, this doesn't mean that MS wants you to have it installed on two PC's
at the same time, but what MS wants doesn't change the OP's rights to
his/her copy of software.

Only a judge can decide what is right or wrong in this situation, and as
long as MS bring an allegation of breech before a judge, the OP has
every right to decide the merits of the situation for his/her self.

MS is not a law unto itself, so if MS really wants to press the issue,
then they should have brought a case against an individual in the more
than 13 years that it has had a One Computer clause in its OS EULA.

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I never suggested I was hurt.
That is just another example of your assuming, you seem to need to assume a
lot to make a point.

If you were capable of posting without insulting others to make your point,
you would.
Your ego needs the boost of insulting others to help prove your point.

If you think your information can stand on its own, you should try it,
otherwise continue to prop up your position with your insults.
Can your data stand on its own? We may never know.

I never said you were not an individual, it is your character that is
reflected in your need to insult.

Good bye Kurt.
Post back only to boost your ego.

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"kurttrail" <dontemailme@anywhereintheknowuniverse.org> wrote in message
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> Jupiter Jones [MVP] wrote:
>> Perhaps the OP wanted an honest answer.
>
> LOL! Honest?! Like I've already said, you are not a judge, and only a
> judge can tell the OP whether he is in violation of the license. Your
> OPINION is worth squat. Only a judge's matters.
>
>> I never suggested I was a judge, but I understand you need to make it
>> seem that way to support your anti Microsoft agenda.
>
> LOL. My agenda is pro-consumer, pro-individual, and pro-personal privacy.
> It's not my fault that MS is anti-anything not pro-corporation.
>
>> As usual you are incapable of answering without insults.
>
> Truth hurts, and its not my fault you feel insulted by the truth.
>
>> Display of you normal character yet again.
>
> Yep. I am an individual that is willing to tell the truth according to
> reality, and you are a comformist that spreads the FUD and legally
> unsubstantiated nonsense of a convicted predatory monopoly.
>
> --
> Peace!
> Kurt
> Self-anointed Moderator
> microscum.pubic.windowsexp.gonorrhea
> http://microscum.com/mscommunity
> "Trustworthy Computing" is only another example of an Oxymoron!
> "Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei"
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On Mon, 29 Aug 2005 14:48:36 -0600, "Jupiter Jones [MVP]"
<jones_jupiter@hotnomail.com> wrote:

>Just as most everything else, there are ways around activation and you
>apparently found one.
>See this link for details about Activation:
>http://aumha.org/win5/a/wpa.htm
>
>Just because it installed and activated, does not mean it is OK.
>Your Windows XP is licensed for only one computer and if OEM, only for the
>original computer.
>Your second installation violates the EULA you agreed and a 3rd would as
>well.

OK, so basically you can activate on a new computer after 120 days, if
I read that webpage correctly. I didn't know that - I do now - thank
you.

It's interesting because this is an OEM copy of XP and it does not
behave as per the OEM specification on that webpage. It's neither
locked to the hardware nor locked to the BIOS.

It doesn't matter because I have a notebook copy of XP from their
recovery disks anyway. I merely wanted to find out if I could install
the desktop XP on the notebook.
 
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NO! You can re-activte every 120 days but it still does not let you use it
on two PCs at the same time.


<rta897@mynot.spam> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 29 Aug 2005 14:48:36 -0600, "Jupiter Jones [MVP]"
> <jones_jupiter@hotnomail.com> wrote:
>
>>Just as most everything else, there are ways around activation and you
>>apparently found one.
>>See this link for details about Activation:
>>http://aumha.org/win5/a/wpa.htm
>>
>>Just because it installed and activated, does not mean it is OK.
>>Your Windows XP is licensed for only one computer and if OEM, only for the
>>original computer.
>>Your second installation violates the EULA you agreed and a 3rd would as
>>well.
>
> OK, so basically you can activate on a new computer after 120 days, if
> I read that webpage correctly. I didn't know that - I do now - thank
> you.
>
> It's interesting because this is an OEM copy of XP and it does not
> behave as per the OEM specification on that webpage. It's neither
> locked to the hardware nor locked to the BIOS.
>
> It doesn't matter because I have a notebook copy of XP from their
> recovery disks anyway. I merely wanted to find out if I could install
> the desktop XP on the notebook.
 
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Yves Leclerc wrote:
> NO! You can re-activte every 120 days but it still does not let you
> use it on two PCs at the same time.

What is "it?" PA?

If so, then "it" did allow the OP to use it on two PCs at the same time,
according to his/her story.

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Jupiter Jones [MVP] wrote:
> I never suggested I was hurt.

Since you don't know my motivations, if you think I was being insulting,
then that must coming from your own perceptions.

> That is just another example of your assuming, you seem to need to
> assume a lot to make a point.

LOL! Like you assumed I was being "insulting" to my your point? Looks
like my point has made! ;-)

> If you were capable of posting without insulting others to make your
> point, you would.

Nope, I was wrong. Again it is your perception that I was being
"insulting."

> Your ego needs the boost of insulting others to help prove your point.

LOL! Telling the truth about you is hardly an ego boost to me.

> If you think your information can stand on its own, you should try it,
> otherwise continue to prop up your position with your insults.

Well it is standing on its own, since you have totally ignore it! But
those that don't have a reasonable argument need to try to divert others
from seeing that they don't have a reasonable argument.

> Can your data stand on its own? We may never know.

What "data" did I present? I just explained why your opinion about the
OP violated the EULA is irrelevant legally. Since MS has refused to
exercise its due diligence responsibility for protecting its
interpretation of its One Computer license term for over 13 years, that
is their choice, and the OP continue to use his copy of software as he
sees fit, as MS has basically legally abandoned its One Computer term.
If the aggreived party in a contract believes he/she/it has but
materially hurt by what they allege is a breech of contract, then it is
he/she/its responsibility to persue the matter prove their allegations
to a judge by the preponderance of the evidence. That is how contact
law works.

Your legally unsubstantiated opinion that the OP violated the EULA is
just Bullsh*t and totally meaningless in the contractual relationship
between the OP and MS.

> I never said you were not an individual, it is your character that is
> reflected in your need to insult.

LOL! It is your MicroBiased perception that I was trying to be
insulting, unfortunately for you, I was just trying to demonstrate your
MicroBias, which I believe I have done.

I explain my opinion, and you just ignore it and lamely try to divert
attention from it, by any means possible. Oh well, as usual, you are
true to your form. Maybe one day MS will provide you with a
semi-rational argument for why they have shirked their due diligence
responsibilities, but I doubt even their legal team has come up with
one.

> Good bye Kurt.

ROFL!

> Post back only to boost your ego.

IOW, your ego has been bruised enough, and you know you'd actually have
to try to come up with some rational argument for why your opinion that
the OP has violated the EULA has meaning, but there is no rational
argument for that, so you are running away, with your fingers in your
ears, while screaming "I can't hear you!" over and over and over again!

> "kurttrail" <dontemailme@anywhereintheknowuniverse.org> wrote in
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>> Jupiter Jones [MVP] wrote:
>>> Perhaps the OP wanted an honest answer.
>>
>> LOL! Honest?! Like I've already said, you are not a judge, and
>> only a judge can tell the OP whether he is in violation of the
>> license. Your OPINION is worth squat. Only a judge's matters.
>>
>>> I never suggested I was a judge, but I understand you need to make
>>> it seem that way to support your anti Microsoft agenda.
>>
>> LOL. My agenda is pro-consumer, pro-individual, and pro-personal
>> privacy. It's not my fault that MS is anti-anything not
>> pro-corporation.
>>> As usual you are incapable of answering without insults.
>>
>> Truth hurts, and its not my fault you feel insulted by the truth.
>>
>>> Display of you normal character yet again.
>>
>> Yep. I am an individual that is willing to tell the truth according
>> to reality, and you are a comformist that spreads the FUD and legally
>> unsubstantiated nonsense of a convicted predatory monopoly.
>>
>> --
>> Peace!
>> Kurt
>> Self-anointed Moderator
>> microscum.pubic.windowsexp.gonorrhea
>> http://microscum.com/mscommunity
>> "Trustworthy Computing" is only another example of an Oxymoron!
>> "Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei"

You forgot to X-out my sig, Juppy! PSML!

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"kurttrail" <dontemailme@anywhereintheknowuniverse.org> wrote
>
> MS is not a law unto itself, so if MS really wants to press the issue,
> then they should have brought a case against an individual in the more
> than 13 years that it has had a One Computer clause in its OS EULA.
>
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I wonder why they haven't? Afraid of upsetting the FUD cart with a reality
show in the courts?

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I did just that, here's a copy some of mine Scary,

"1. GRANT OF LICENSE. Microsoft passes complete ownership to you, the
following rights
contained in this EULA:

* Installation and use. You may install, use, access,
display and run as many copies of the Product on home\personal use
computers, such as a workstations, terminals or other devices
("Workstation Computers"). The Product may be used
by more than two (2) processors at any one time on any
number of personal Workstation Computers. You may permit a maximum
of one hundred (100) computers or other electronic devices (each
a "Device") to connect to Workstation Computers to
utilize the services of the Product for File and........."

No violation on my behalf nor the OP's. I must say you look so good on that
chair of virtue you sit on, keep up the good work. And remember Scary the
Troll is your friend, MS is not.

- Winux P


"Carey Frisch [MVP]" <cnfrisch@nospamgmail.com> wrote in message
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> It is clearly a violation of the EULA to install the same Windows XP
> license on a second computer without removing Windows XP from
> the original computer.
>
> Please read the EULA by going to Start > Run and type: WINVER
> and hit enter.
>
> You need to purchase a new Windows XP license for each
> installation on a different computer.
>
> --
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> Microsoft MVP
> Windows XP - Shell/User
> Microsoft Newsgroups
>
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>
> "rta897" wrote:
>
> | When I bought my desktop computer it had a copy of (manufacturer
> | branded) XP Home on CD. As far as I can tell it is normal XP Home
> | except for minor details such as MSIE start page. I installed it from
> | CD onto my desktop computer some months ago and it activated fine.
> |
> | Today I installed it onto my notebook computer and typed in its
> | activation key to activate it over the internet. Again it activated
> | fine.
> |
> | So I have the same XP Home with same activation key, activated and
> | working on two different computers. Is this supposed to happen? Isn't
> | the activation system supposed to prevent the same key being used on
> | two different computers? Don't they "phone home" to Microsoft and
> | can't Microsoft figure out that two different computers are running
> | the same activation key?
> |
> | Can I install it on a third computer? Is there a period, eg a month,
> | before it is possible to activate using this same key?
> |
> | Brief response and perhaps a URL to explain the activation system, if
> | you would be so kind.