[SOLVED] Adding 8GB ram stick of same speed of my old ram and diffrent brands is causing me Random BlueScreens

[AnxiousBeat]

Hello,
So, 4 days ago, i bought a Leven 8Gb DDR3 1600 MHz to my pc, and added it to my (2x4)Gb Avexir blitz series DDR3 1600 MHz that i had for a while now, and ever since i have being having games closing at random times or Random bluescreens
i removed the new ram and tried, then removed the old ram and added the new one alone, and in both cases i had no issue
theoretically the rams should be fully compatible, but i dont understand why am i having this issue, is it some settings that i should tune in the bios ?
this is my old ram: http://www.avexir.com/product/blitzspec-ddr3.html
this is the new ram: https://exe.ua/en/product/p275752/
these are my specs:
Desktop
OS: Windows 10 Professional (x64) Build 19042.1165 (20H2)
CPU: Intel core i5-4440
Motherboard: ASUS B85-PRO GAMER
RAM:16 GB DDR3 SDRAM 1600 Mhz (2x4gb Corsair avexir and 1x8gb stick LEVEN)
GPU: GIGABYTE Geforce GTX 970
HDD: 1 AVEXIR SSD 128GB + 1 ST1000DM003-1ER162 HDD 1TB
PSU: im not sure where can i see it but it's a thermaltake 800W one


Thanks in advance

 

[Bob.B]

Hello,
So, 4 days ago, i bought a Leven 8Gb DDR3 1600 MHz to my pc, and added it to my (2x4)Gb Avexir blitz series DDR3 1600 MHz that i had for a while now, and ever since i have being having games closing at random times or Random bluescreens
i removed the new ram and tried, then removed the old ram and added the new one alone, and in both cases i had no issue
theoretically the rams should be fully compatible, but i dont understand why am i having this issue, is it some settings that i should tune in the bios ?
these are my specs:
Desktop
OS: Windows 10 Professional (x64) Build 19042.1165 (20H2)
CPU: Intel core i5-4440
Motherboard: ASUS B85-PRO GAMER
RAM:16 GB DDR3 SDRAM 1600 Mhz (2x4gb Corsair avexir and 1x8gb stick LEVEN)
GPU: GIGABYTE Geforce GTX 970
HDD: 1 AVEXIR SSD 128GB + 1 ST1000DM003-1ER162 HDD 1TB
PSU: im not sure where can i see it but it's a thermaltake 800W one


Thanks in advance

Whenever you mix ram it's a flip of a coin if the sticks will play nice together.
Try resetting the bios....if no help see if there is a bios update.

 

[sizzling]

You can also try running 1333mhz and increasing DRAM voltage but there is no guarantee you will get them to work together.

 

[AnxiousBeat]

Whenever you mix ram it's a flip of a coin if the sticks will play nice together.
Try resetting the bios....if no help see if there is a bios update.

Even if both rams are identical in everything but the brands ?

 

[AnxiousBeat]

You can also try running 1333mhz and increasing DRAM voltage but there is no guarantee you will get them to work together.

why should i decrease the speed if they are both capable of 1600 MHz ?

 

[USAFRet]

Even if both rams are identical in everything but the brands ?

Yes.
Anything not sold as a set is not guaranteed to work.

 

[sizzling]

why should i decrease the speed if they are both capable of 1600 MHz ?

To improve the chance of them running together. I believe it’s to do with lower load on the memory controller but don’t hold me to that.

 

[AnxiousBeat]

To improve the chance of them running together. I believe it’s to do with lower load on the memory controller but don’t hold me to that.

im sorry my understand in desktops isnt that deep , is this related to downclocking them ?

 

[sizzling]

im sorry my understand in desktops isnt that deep , is this related to downclocking them ?

I'm no expert in this area. Its something I have done though on a system with a i5 4670k and 2x(2x4gb) DDR3 1600mhz. At 1600mhz the system would crash, but by running 1333mhz and increasing the voltage I got the system to run stable.

 

[dkohler98]

im sorry my understand in desktops isnt that deep , is this related to downclocking them ?

Theoretically, you could buy one stick of memory and come back some months later and plug in another. With an identical model they should work. But that doesn't always happen. The only way the manufacturers will guarantee compatibility is to buy a pair that have been tested together. This has been true since at least 1995 using sdr100. Your experience with that set-up is not surprising.

 

[AnxiousBeat]

Theoretically, you could buy one stick of memory and come back some months later and plug in another. With an identical model they should work. But that doesn't always happen. The only way the manufacturers will guarantee compatibility is to buy a pair that have been tested together. This has been true since at least 1995 using sdr100. Your experience with that set-up is not surprising.

if two rams arent compatible, will the pc not boot at all or will it boot but have issues later like im having ?

 

[SamirD]

Try running 1x 4GB and 1x 8GB--that might work. You'll lose 4GB, but gain 4GB. DDR3 can have issues like this with mixed module designs.

 

[Zerk2012]

if two rams arent compatible, will the pc not boot at all or will it boot but have issues later like im having ?

That is not the way it works all the time.
Put the memory back in and increase your voltage to 1.55

Post a link to the exact memory you have!
From what I can find the 8GB stick you added has 11 cas and the other should have 9 cas that is making them nothing even close to the same memory.

 

[AnxiousBeat]

Try running 1x 4GB and 1x 8GB--that might work. You'll lose 4GB, but gain 4GB. DDR3 can have issues like this with mixed module designs.

in double or single channel ?

 

[AnxiousBeat]

That is not the way it works all the time.
Put the memory back in and increase your voltage to 1.55

both rams are labeled for 1.5 V, is it safe to go beyond that ?

 

[Zerk2012]

both rams are labeled for 1.5 V, is it safe to go beyond that ?

Post a link for both of the memory from what I can find the original was cas 9 the new is cas 11 that makes them nothing even close to the same.

 

[SamirD]

in double or single channel ?

Try it both ways.

 

[AnxiousBeat]

That is not the way it works all the time.
Put the memory back in and increase your voltage to 1.55

Post a link to the exact memory you have!
From what I can find the 8GB stick you added has 11 cas and the other should have 9 cas that is making them nothing even close to the same memory.

this is my old ram: http://www.avexir.com/product/blitzspec-ddr3.html
this is the new ram: https://exe.ua/en/product/p275752/
in CPU-Z however, it's saying 9 for some reason
https://ibb.co/tz5VRpG

should i try each ram individually and send u the CPU-Z reports ?

 

[SamirD]

Manually set the cl to 11 for all modules in the bios and I think that will solve the problem.

 

[AnxiousBeat]

this is my old ram: http://www.avexir.com/product/blitzspec-ddr3.html
this is the new ram: https://exe.ua/en/product/p275752/
in CPU-Z however, it's saying 9 for some reason
https://ibb.co/tz5VRpG

Manually set the cl to 11 for all modules in the bios and I think that will solve the problem.

will try and update u

 

[AnxiousBeat]

Manually set the cl to 11 for all modules in the bios and I think that will solve the problem.

Never mind, i was wrong, after opening my pc and checking both rams, the old one is CL9 and the new one is CL11
now the question is, is their a way to make them work together or is their no hope at this point ?

 

[AnxiousBeat]

Post a link for both of the memory from what I can find the original was cas 9 the new is cas 11 that makes them nothing even close to the same.

nvm the links i sent are wrong, the old ram is CL9 and the new one is CL11, is their a way to make them work togetger ?

 

[AnxiousBeat]

These are my current bios settings


https://ibb.co/bJS13Gd
https://ibb.co/hdyC9tb
https://ibb.co/870Xwfy

 

[AnxiousBeat]

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Basically, i have made the big mistake of buying two rams of matching frequencies, but didnt pay attention to clock timings since i wasnt that knowledged about them when i made the purchase
running them together has being causing me some BlueScreens while gaming
after further researche and realizing that they have diffrent speeds, my main question right now became whether or not im able to somehow make them run at the same timings without issue?
refunding them isnt an option in my country so they either work or i have a dead ram at my disposal
this is what CPU-Z shows:
https://ibb.co/tz5VRpG
these are my specs:
Desktop
OS: Windows 10 Professional (x64) Build 19042.1165 (20H2)
CPU: Intel core i5-4440
Motherboard: ASUS B85-PRO GAMER
RAM:16 GB DDR3 SDRAM 1600 Mhz (2x4gb Corsair avexir CL9 and 1x8gb stick LEVEN CL11)
GPU: GIGABYTE Geforce GTX 970
HDD: 1 AVEXIR SSD 128GB + 1 ST1000DM003-1ER162 HDD 1TB
PSU: im not sure where can i see it but it's a thermaltake 800W one
these are my BIOS settings currently :

https://ibb.co/bJS13Gd
https://ibb.co/hdyC9tb
https://ibb.co/870Xwfy

 

[rgd1101]

Can you?
you already have the answer. it causing bsod