Question Adding several routers to improve coverage

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Hi everyone, hopefully you can help!

I live in a 3 story house with 5 other students and and our virgin media wifi coverage is rubbish!

I’m looking to set up a network using 2 additional routers and my virgin media hub.
I’m thinking of having an Ethernet from my main router to another router then an Ethernet cable from the second router to the third.

Would this work? Any tips or suggestions on how to do it and what hardware to choose?

I have some old bt and sky routers lying around. Would these work?

Will doing this slow my speed down or will it stay pretty much similar. I’ve seen some websites that say it might improve it?

I’m looking at cat7 Ethernet cables. Do I need these or will cat6 or less be absolutely fine?


Please explain in simple terms as I’m a novice when it comes to this stuff! 😂

Thanks for any help you can give!
 

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What you're talking about is using your spare routers as additional wifi ACCESS POINTS. If your routers have the ability to change to access point mode, then yes it would be fine.

I recommend you give each access point a different SSID and manually select the wifi channels on each router so they're far apart from each other.

I don't think you need CAT7. Cat5e and Cat6 should be fine, you'll be limited to gigabit ethernet anyways, no reason for cat7.

  1. Set your spare routers to access point mode.
  2. Plug an ethernet cable from a switch port of the main router into a switch port of the 2nd access point(not the WAN port).
  3. Plug an ethernet cable from a switch port of the 2nd access point to a switch port on the 3rd access point(not the WAN port).
Alternatively, if you're renting and they won't allow you to run ethernet. You can install some powerline wifi extenders. They won't give you anywhere near the bandwidth of ethernet access points, but they'll give you decent speeds for each floor.
 
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You should be able to use your existing routers as access points--disable the dhcp server, set an IP address outside of the dhcp range on your virgin router, and then plug cable into the lan ports only. This should allow you to use the old routers as access points.

I wouldn't set wifi channels manually--leave them automatic as other outside access points will also be on auto and best to let them all continuously hop around. If you have absolutely no other access points in range but yours, you can set the channels manually and should be fine.

Your existing ethernet cables are fine. No one needs cat7 at all--it's a marketing gimmick.
 
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Thank you both for your reply. Both really informative. I’m looking to buy some routers to act as the access points and I’ve found some sky ones on fb market place. It seems as if they use a different type of ethernet cable for the Ethernet in ( purple in picture). Would I be able to use a normal Ethernet cable into the yellow? For Ethernet in and out.

Hope that makes sense!

image: https://share.icloud.com/photos/0vbCkguy4IJLEE9JeHDKAwvnQ

Hope that link to the pic works 🤞
 
Nov 13, 2020
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Thank you both for your reply. Both really informative. I’m looking to buy some routers to act as the access points and I’ve found some sky ones on fb market place. It seems as if they use a different type of ethernet cable for the Ethernet in ( purple in picture). Would I be able to use a normal Ethernet cable into the yellow? For Ethernet in and out.

Hope that makes sense!

image: https://share.icloud.com/photos/0vbCkguy4IJLEE9JeHDKAwvnQ

Hope that link to the pic works 🤞
After abit of research I think it’s the WAN LAN stuff that’s confusing me. Am I right in saying that in extra routers ( not my main router) all I have to use is the LAN bits? So I’ll have an Ethernet cable going into via LAN ports and I can have Ethernet cables coming out via LAN ports. I may be completely wrong 😬again, any help is appreciated!
 
After abit of research I think it’s the WAN LAN stuff that’s confusing me. Am I right in saying that in extra routers ( not my main router) all I have to use is the LAN bits? So I’ll have an Ethernet cable going into via LAN ports and I can have Ethernet cables coming out via LAN ports. I may be completely wrong 😬again, any help is appreciated!
Connect them LAN to LAN. If you use the WAN port you will create a second network.
 
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In general it will work to cable to the LAN ports on any router. Make sure you disable the DHCP and change the LAN ip to not conflict on the "ap" router. Part of the confusion is some/many routers have the ability to run as a AP. Mostly the difference is they let you use the WAN port to connect rather than a lan. In effect they convert the wan port to a extra lan port when then have a AP option.
 
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We also have to keep in mind that not every router has the ability to go into AP mode. Especially an ISP's router. Make sure before buying that you read the manual and verify it has to ability to operate as an access point.
 
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The router acts as a hub that sets up a local area network and manages all of the devices and communication in it. An access point, on the other hand, is a sub-device within the local area network that provides another location for devices to connect from and enables more devices to be on the network. In your case, the problem is in your router, I can suggest you change it to VPN Router which is stronger than yours. I bought one when I had the same problem and now the internet is faster. I hope that I helped you.
 
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The router acts as a hub that sets up a local area network and manages all of the devices and communication in it. An access point, on the other hand, is a sub-device within the local area network that provides another location for devices to connect from and enables more devices to be on the network.
I would refrain from using the term "hub" in a networking context, it exists as a device, is outdated and undesirable in modern network topology!!
 
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We also have to keep in mind that not every router has the ability to go into AP mode. Especially an ISP's router. Make sure before buying that you read the manual and verify it has to ability to operate as an access point.
Most can operate as an AP by design, even isp ones. The only ones that can't are typically dsl routers, but I even have some of those that work.
 

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