Question Adding wireless speakers to a wired 3.1 system to make it 5.1

[LegendsCoach]

Please excuse my naivete. I have a very modest home theater consisting of a TLC 55' TV with an Onkyo TX-NR 575 receiver wired to a pair of Micca MB42 bookshelf speakers, a Micca MB42x-c center channel and a Polk Audio PSW10 subwoofer. I have everything working thus far. I have a pair Toshiba TY-GC1000 wireless speakers that I would like to add into the mix in the same room but for the life of me I can't figure out how to add them to the Onkyo receiver. I have tried using Google Home but there is a very noticeable lag between the wired components and the wireless ones which I can't seem to over compensate for. I am hoping that by connecting the wireless speaker to the receiver and calibrating it again I can get all of this solved. Can anyone point me to a tutorial how to set up wireless speakers on the Onkyo. I have tried adding the devices through their phone app and even searching by specific ip address and nothing works. Would greatly appreciate some guidance.

 

[jsmithepa]

but for the life of me I can't figure out how to add them to the Onkyo receiver.

You are having a hard time because this is not done. A typical receiver assumes you will be using all wired speakers, so nothing built-in to compensate for delay.

Honestly wireless speakers are in the quick&easy category, stereo desktops, but not surround. The only wireless surround I've seen are those all-in-one boxes, often marketed as Home Theater something, but you must purchase everything all at once, can't add-on.

 

[LegendsCoach]

I guess I don’t understand because the Onkyo receiver I purchased sells itself as being able to connect to wireless speakers and there is functionality in the phone app to set them up, I just can’t get it to work. Am I misunderstanding the receivers capabilities?

 

[jsmithepa]

A quick browse of the manual doesn't how any wireless speakers capability. I only see playing your smartphone through Bluetooth, so wireless INPUT. Nothing about wireless OUTPUT.

Supply links or post pic of where it says you can do this.

 

[Alabalcho]

Short of running speaker wires (with new speakers), or spending almost as much as the receiver itself to use these Toshibas - there's no way.

 

[LegendsCoach]

A quick browse of the manual doesn't how any wireless speakers capability. I only see playing your smartphone through Bluetooth, so wireless INPUT. Nothing about wireless OUTPUT.

Supply links or post pic of where it says you can do this.

I am sorry. This site won't let me upload the screen shot that I took of the Onkyo phone app. That is where I am trying to connect the wireless speakers to the receiver. It clearly is built to add wireless speakers but as you have found there aren't really any instructions that explain how to use this functionality.

 

[jsmithepa]

I notice there is a NR575 "E" model, maybe that one does? Also the App maybe for another Onkyo model?

I would not be surprised if the App was outsourced to a third party and at the end Onkyo ran out of time to implement the feature, and left it for "future upgrades."

 

[LegendsCoach]

A quick browse of the manual doesn't how any wireless speakers capability. I only see playing your smartphone through Bluetooth, so wireless INPUT. Nothing about wireless OUTPUT.

Supply links or post pic of where it says you can do this.

I notice there is a NR575 "E" model, maybe that one does? Also the App maybe for another Onkyo model?

I would not be surprised if the App was outsourced to a third party and at the end Onkyo ran out of time to implement the feature, and left it for "future upgrades."

The reason I purchased it was because it has Google Chromecast, DTS Play-Fi and FireConnect built in and I figured between one of them I would be able to link the speakers in but you can't find any information out there on how to do it. Here is the cut sheet on the controller app.

https://www.intl.onkyo.com/downloads/applications/controller.html

I think it states that I should be able "Stream sources connected to a master Onkyo component’s external analog audio inputs to compatible wireless speakers", I am just trying to figure out how.

 

[jsmithepa]

The only thing I saw on that link that remotely talks about what you want is perhaps Flare-Connect. Says to require a firmware update, and sounds like a proprietary thing, meaning only Flare-Connect enabled speakers, and is intended for multi-room applications, not as add-ons to your existing.

 

[Vogelspinnen]

I am not familiar with Onkyo's systems, but from what I have read Fireconnect seems to require Fireconnect devices, and seems to be for multiroom listening, not isolating a specific channel.

The best solution would be to get Audioengine's W3 wireless adapters. I was in a similar pickle recently and these receivers have the lowest latency (20ms) that I have found. Anything with bluetooth is gonna be at least a 30-80ms latency. You can then use Equalizer APO to compensate for the 20ms latency so your whole system will be in sync.