Advice about RTX 2080 ti

[k@rt]

Hi All,

After waiting for the nvidia reveal yesterday I am somewhat heartbroken to discover that the RTX 2080 ti is currently just a little more expensive than anything I can realistically afford atm. Being in a situation where I really HAVE to purchase a new card soon (and as someone for whom buying the best on the market has usually proven to be a wise long term investment strategy) I still really want to get the 2080 Ti.

What I don't know is how this kind of release fits in with 3rd party developers, which is my question really.... does anyone know when EVGA, Gigabyte or MSI versions of the 2080 ti are likely to be available? Is it likely to be weeks or months before we see any other cards on the market.

I assume once others start making cards it will be possible that prices may become a little cheaper and more competitive.

 

[cookiemania66]

RTX 2080 (ti) Series officially launches on 20th September, 2070 follows in oktober and 2060 and even further down maybe also in oktober or later.

You can asume that the price for a 2080ti will stay above 1000 USD

 

[ElectrO_90]

Have a look at guru3d.com they actually update the website constantly and you will see a whole host of After Market boards coming out... Toms is a bit slow with the latest news, sadly. I think they're all sleeping.

 

[k@rt]

Have a look at guru3d.com they actually update the website constantly and you will see a whole host of After Market boards coming out... Toms is a bit slow with the latest news, sadly. I think they're all sleeping.

Really? So there's no kind of limitation placed by nvidia, we can expect to see 3rd party after market boards pretty soon? Cos I can wait a month or two, what I can't afford to do really is wait beginning next year. Currently there is a HUGE price gulf between the US prices and the European prices... the EURO price for the card is €1250, which come out to $1450, rather than the $1199 on the Nvidia site... which is what is annoying me the most cos at the US price I could probably afford it, it's a little over €1000 which was kinda my upper limit. I was really hoping that after market cards may even out this price discrepancy a bit. Is this price difference thanks to Trump stupid trade war?

 

[ElectrO_90]

The price in America is without TAX and their TAX is a lot less than what we pay in Europe. From my limited knowledge, American's only need to pay tax if they are in the same state they bought it from, so ordering online, they pay 0 tax.
Us Europeans pay 20%+ Tax, so in England the Nvidia website is including Tax (like the European ones).

The trade war is not about us, it's about America importing from China - since all Electronics seem to be made in China, America will actually start to know what it is like to pay tax on items.

 

[k@rt]

The price in America is without TAX and their TAX is a lot less than what we pay in Europe. From my limited knowledge, American's only need to pay tax if they are in the same state they bought it from, so ordering online, they pay 0 tax.
Us Europeans pay 20%+ Tax, so in England the Nvidia website is including Tax (like the European ones).

The trade war is not about us, it's about America importing from China - since all Electronics seem to be made in China, America will actually start to know what it is like to pay tax on items.

I didn't know that the US prices were taxless, it's true, does explain the difference... but you're incorrect about the trade war I believe as it very much does effect Europe. Trump levying higher import taxes on Steel and Alu from the EU has caused the EU to raise import taxes on many US products, and although many electrical components ARE manufactured in Asia, the cards themselves are a Nvidia product, and so far as I am aware therefore count as an American product (they prolly assembled or have stickers put on in the US xD)... and therefore could theoretically be subject to greater import taxes as well I imagine. You're right, it may not be the case here, but there's no particular reason why it couldn't be so far as I can see : https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/us-eu-trade-war-tarrifs-goods-trump-steel-aluminium-american-products-european-union-a8411331.html
Thanks for the reply all the same.

 

[ElectrO_90]

Believe me, I follow this stuff.
90% of all Electronics are from Asia, but mainly China. The new 25% tax import tariff from China will affect all companies in America unless they apply for exemption and they can do that.
Steel from Europe, doesn't make video cards, so that's why it's not relevant to this discussion.
The Cards will probably all be from TMSC which is then goes to China to be assembled. The only thing America do is put a sticker on it saying "designed in America" like Apple do. The truth is, that they use people all around the world to make their things, but Americans are very patriotic and believe only America designs Apple Products, even when a lot of their designs are not from America. (I did live in America for a few years).

 

[camieabz]

but Americans are very patriotic and believe only America designs Apple Products, even when a lot of their designs are not from America. (I did live in America for a few years).

Slap 'Patriot' on everything for best results. Patriot coffee. Patriot cookies. Patriot Pet Products. Patriot Laundry. Patriot bathrooms. Patriot Disposal. Patriot condoms.

Just lie back and think of...

 

[k@rt]

Believe me, I follow this stuff.
90% of all Electronics are from Asia, but mainly China. The new 25% tax import tariff from China will affect all companies in America unless they apply for exemption and they can do that.
Steel from Europe, doesn't make video cards, so that's why it's not relevant to this discussion.
The Cards will probably all be from TMSC which is then goes to China to be assembled. The only thing America do is put a sticker on it saying "designed in America" like Apple do. The truth is, that they use people all around the world to make their things, but Americans are very patriotic and believe only America designs Apple Products, even when a lot of their designs are not from America. (I did live in America for a few years).

Listen man, I don't want to argue and I think I covered all of this. In my original post I only posed this as little ironic question for fun, I wasn't really suggesting that in this particular case it was having a significant effect... but then you went and said that the trade war had "nothing to do with us" which so obviously isn't true either. In this instance the end product IS American "made" (even if that is only putting a sticker on... I said this in my post, you didn't have to explain it back to me, did you not read that?) so it is possible that as retaliation for the steel and alu tariffs could cause a rise in electronics imports from the US manufacturers. On top of that if the US manufacturer of the cards is being effect by the trade war with China, it could also be costing them more than it should to make/assemble the cards in the first place... which actually means the orange buffoons stupid trade war he obviously doesn't understand could actually be effecting us in Europe twice. Firstly cos of higher component cost from the Asian source and secondly because of EU import tarifs on US goods. And that was the serious part of my question because we already know there is a long list of US products where the cost is increasing in Europe because of this, Jeans, Bourbons. Demims, Tobacco, various agriculture products, etc. but personally I haven't heard much about electronics and tech so far, but I see no reason why tech products couldn't get caught up in this too, which could end up seriously effecting prices in Europe. Trade is very complex and these kind of tarits have a domino effect.