Advice for a Beginnner: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor

[cwb50]

I have made a few posts asking for wisdom on my first gaming rig, because I am 100% new I have said I need simplified advice and just help... However they always become just a big argument. So I am changing my strategy.


Tell me what you think of this one part: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor

If you need it for reference here is my whole build: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/mZKtQ7

Expectations of my rig:
1. Great for gaming at high quality
2. Online ready (wireless/ethernet)
3. Preferred to be under $800 (currently over my "budget")
4. Types of games: Minecraft, Sims 4, Elderscrolls, Valve (half-life, portal), some others
5. Also I do lots of video editting!

PLEASE do not argue, it just makes me so confused. And PLEASE keep the language simple. Avoid abbreviating cause I never have any idea what they mean.

 

[pigsinspace72]

post the permalink to the build, this link is broken for me

 

[CooLWoLF]

The 6300 is a very good budget CPU. With a simple multiplier and voltage bump on a decent motherboard, you could easily have a 4ghz 6-core processor.

 

[cwb50]

The 6300 is a very good budget CPU. With a simple multiplier and voltage bump on a decent motherboard, you could easily have a 4ghz 6-core processor.

What does that mean exactly?

 

[coolcole01]

for its price and its place i see them for 70 bucks sometimes its awesome

 

[coolcole01]

The 6300 is a very good budget CPU. With a simple multiplier and voltage bump on a decent motherboard, you could easily have a 4ghz 6-core processor.

What does that mean exactly?

he is talking about its ease of overclocking

 

[cwb50]

post the permalink to the build, this link is broken for me

Fixed it! Sorry!

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/mZKtQ7

 

[cwb50]

The 6300 is a very good budget CPU. With a simple multiplier and voltage bump on a decent motherboard, you could easily have a 4ghz 6-core processor.

What does that mean exactly?

he is talking about its ease of overclocking

What is this overclocking exactly? What significance will it have in my gaming rig's life?

Note, the games I plan on having are: Sims 4, Minecraft, Elder Scrolls games, Valve games (half-life, portal)

 

[pigsinspace72]

Looks like a solid build. Would avoid corsair cx series psu. Heres a good quality one http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817207013

 

[CooLWoLF]

The 6300 is a very good budget CPU. With a simple multiplier and voltage bump on a decent motherboard, you could easily have a 4ghz 6-core processor.

What does that mean exactly?

he is talking about its ease of overclocking

What is this overclocking exactly? What significance will it have in my gaming rig's life?

Note, the games I plan on having are: Sims 4, Minecraft, Elder Scrolls games, Valve games (half-life, portal)

Overclocking is manually forcing the CPU to run at a faster frequency then its factory default. The FX processors shine in this regard as they overclock very easily. Very beneficial to gaming rigs.

 

[cwb50]

The 6300 is a very good budget CPU. With a simple multiplier and voltage bump on a decent motherboard, you could easily have a 4ghz 6-core processor.

What does that mean exactly?

he is talking about its ease of overclocking

What is this overclocking exactly? What significance will it have in my gaming rig's life?

Note, the games I plan on having are: Sims 4, Minecraft, Elder Scrolls games, Valve games (half-life, portal)

Overclocking is manually forcing the CPU to run at a faster frequency then its factory default. The FX processors shine in this regard as they overclock very easily. Very beneficial to gaming rigs.

Ok. So the CPU I have picked is good for that?

 

[cwb50]

The 6300 is a very good budget CPU. With a simple multiplier and voltage bump on a decent motherboard, you could easily have a 4ghz 6-core processor.

What does that mean exactly?

he is talking about its ease of overclocking

What is this overclocking exactly? What significance will it have in my gaming rig's life?

Note, the games I plan on having are: Sims 4, Minecraft, Elder Scrolls games, Valve games (half-life, portal)

Overclocking is manually forcing the CPU to run at a faster frequency then its factory default. The FX processors shine in this regard as they overclock very easily. Very beneficial to gaming rigs.

Ok. So the CPU I have picked is good for that?

 

[logainofhades]

I would go with this for $3 more. FX 6300 needs to be overclocked to beat a haswell i3. AM3+ is a dead socket with no upgrade path, as no new chips are going to be released for it. FX also is a more power hungry cpu. With this build, you would have an upgrade path to all Haswell and Haswell refresh CPU's, and support for broadwell when it is released. Also threw in a bigger monitor. 😀

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i3-4150 3.5GHz Dual-Core Processor ($118.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock H97 PRO4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($86.66 @ Newegg)
Memory: Kingston Fury Red Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($72.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R9 270X 2GB Dual-X Video Card ($188.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Thermaltake Versa H22 ATX Mid Tower Case ($34.99 @ Mwave)
Power Supply: EVGA 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($48.91 @ Amazon)
Optical Drive: Pioneer BDR-209DBK Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer ($54.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.99 @ NCIX US)
Monitor: Acer G246HLAbd 60Hz 24.0" Monitor ($129.99 @ Amazon)
Keyboard: Logitech MK120 Wired Slim Keyboard w/Optical Mouse ($14.18 @ B&H)
Total: $890.66
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

 

[CooLWoLF]

Yes, but don't try overclocking with a cheap motherboard; it won't work out as well. What is your budget?

 

[cwb50]

I would go with this for $3 more. FX 6300 needs to be overclocked to beat a haswell i3. AM3+ is a dead socket with no upgrade path, as no new chips are going to be released for it. FX also is a more power hungry cpu. With this build, you would have an upgrade path to all Haswell and Haswell refresh CPU's, and support for broadwell when it is released. Also threw in a bigger monitor. 😀

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i3-4150 3.5GHz Dual-Core Processor ($118.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock H97 PRO4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($86.66 @ Newegg)
Memory: Kingston Fury Red Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($72.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R9 270X 2GB Dual-X Video Card ($188.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Thermaltake Versa H22 ATX Mid Tower Case ($34.99 @ Mwave)
Power Supply: EVGA 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($48.91 @ Amazon)
Optical Drive: Pioneer BDR-209DBK Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer ($54.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.99 @ NCIX US)
Monitor: Acer G246HLAbd 60Hz 24.0" Monitor ($129.99 @ Amazon)
Keyboard: Logitech MK120 Wired Slim Keyboard w/Optical Mouse ($14.18 @ B&H)
Total: $890.66
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

So are number of cores meaningless. (Reminder, i know little if anything) However, I had always thought that the more cores the better?

 

[cwb50]

Yes, but don't try overclocking with a cheap motherboard; it won't work out as well. What is your budget?

I prefer 800, but I would wiggle up to 1000 if I really had to

 

[logainofhades]

I would go with this for $3 more. FX 6300 needs to be overclocked to beat a haswell i3. AM3+ is a dead socket with no upgrade path, as no new chips are going to be released for it. FX also is a more power hungry cpu. With this build, you would have an upgrade path to all Haswell and Haswell refresh CPU's, and support for broadwell when it is released. Also threw in a bigger monitor. 😀

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i3-4150 3.5GHz Dual-Core Processor ($118.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock H97 PRO4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($86.66 @ Newegg)
Memory: Kingston Fury Red Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($72.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R9 270X 2GB Dual-X Video Card ($188.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Thermaltake Versa H22 ATX Mid Tower Case ($34.99 @ Mwave)
Power Supply: EVGA 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($48.91 @ Amazon)
Optical Drive: Pioneer BDR-209DBK Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer ($54.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.99 @ NCIX US)
Monitor: Acer G246HLAbd 60Hz 24.0" Monitor ($129.99 @ Amazon)
Keyboard: Logitech MK120 Wired Slim Keyboard w/Optical Mouse ($14.18 @ B&H)
Total: $890.66
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

So are number of cores meaningless. (Reminder, i know little if anything) However, I had always thought that the more cores the better?

Intel's cores are more capable than AMD's. Intel has fewer, more powerful cores, and AMD has many, weaker, cores. 90%+ of the time, the i3 will beat the FX, unless it is overclocked to at least FX 6350 speeds. Even with a heavier overclock, the FX 6300, with its 6 cores, cannot beat my quad core i5 3570k at stock.

 

[CooLWoLF]

No, number of cores is not meaningless. However, there are other variables to consider as well. If its a program that is single threaded driven, then an Intel CPU is going to outperform the AMD FX. But if its a multi-threaded program, like say Battlefield 4, then you would want to consider a 6-8 core CPU (and as said, the 6300 is a great budget 6-core). AMD FXs work great for Battlefield 4 as it scales up very well as you up the core count.

I do not recommend getting a dual-core processor for a gaming based computer.

 

[cwb50]

I'd like to add that I do lots of video editing, and I heard 6 cores is primo for that

 

[CooLWoLF]

I'd like to add that I do lots of video editing, and I heard 6 cores is primo for that

Yes, more cores helps with video editing.

I just looked at your parts list. That motherboard is awful to be blunt. Spend $20 more and get this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131873&cm_re=970-_-13-131-873-_-Product

 

[cwb50]

I'd like to add that I do lots of video editing, and I heard 6 cores is primo for that

Yes, more cores helps with video editing.

I just looked at your parts list. That motherboard is awful to be blunt. Spend $20 more and get this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131873&cm_re=970-_-13-131-873-_-Product

I have been told that a few times. Do you mind telling me what is wrong with it?

 

[cwb50]

I'd like to add that I do lots of video editing, and I heard 6 cores is primo for that

Yes, more cores helps with video editing.

I just looked at your parts list. That motherboard is awful to be blunt. Spend $20 more and get this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131873&cm_re=970-_-13-131-873-_-Product

I have been told that a few times. Do you mind telling me what is wrong with it?

 

[CooLWoLF]

I'd like to add that I do lots of video editing, and I heard 6 cores is primo for that

Yes, more cores helps with video editing.

I just looked at your parts list. That motherboard is awful to be blunt. Spend $20 more and get this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131873&cm_re=970-_-13-131-873-_-Product

I have been told that a few times. Do you mind telling me what is wrong with it?

The VRMs on that board are horrendous and have a high fail rate. The VRM is what controls how much power is being fed to the CPU. If it fails, it can fry the motherboard and the CPU. Most modern motherboards put heatsinks on the VRMs; this board doesn't even have that to help compensate for the bad VRM design.

 

[cwb50]

I'd like to add that I do lots of video editing, and I heard 6 cores is primo for that

Yes, more cores helps with video editing.

I just looked at your parts list. That motherboard is awful to be blunt. Spend $20 more and get this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131873&cm_re=970-_-13-131-873-_-Product

I have been told that a few times. Do you mind telling me what is wrong with it?

The VRMs on that board are horrendous and have a high fail rate. The VRM is what controls how much power is being fed to the CPU. If it fails, it can fry the motherboard and the CPU. Most modern motherboards put heatsinks on the VRMs; this board doesn't even have that to help compensate for the bad VRM design.

Oh wow, that sounds bad

 

[logainofhades]

Yes, but don't try overclocking with a cheap motherboard; it won't work out as well. What is your budget?

I prefer 800, but I would wiggle up to 1000 if I really had to

I would then go with something more like this.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4460 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($187.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock H97 PRO4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($86.66 @ Newegg)
Memory: Kingston Fury Red Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($72.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R9 270X 2GB Dual-X Video Card ($188.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Thermaltake Versa H22 ATX Mid Tower Case ($34.99 @ Mwave)
Power Supply: EVGA 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($48.91 @ Amazon)
Optical Drive: Pioneer BDR-209DBK Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer ($54.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.99 @ NCIX US)
Monitor: Acer G246HLAbd 60Hz 24.0" Monitor ($129.99 @ TigerDirect)
Keyboard: Logitech MK120 Wired Slim Keyboard w/Optical Mouse ($14.18 @ B&H)
Total: $959.66
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available


Or forget broadwell, and go close to max budget, and get i7 4770 performance.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Motherboard: ASRock H81M-DGS R2.0 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($48.38 @ Newegg)
Memory: Kingston Fury Red Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($72.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R9 270X 2GB Dual-X Video Card ($188.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Thermaltake Versa H22 ATX Mid Tower Case ($34.99 @ Mwave)
Power Supply: EVGA 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($48.91 @ Amazon)
Optical Drive: Pioneer BDR-209DBK Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer ($54.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.99 @ NCIX US)
Monitor: Acer G246HLAbd 60Hz 24.0" Monitor ($129.99 @ TigerDirect)
Keyboard: Logitech MK120 Wired Slim Keyboard w/Optical Mouse ($14.18 @ B&H)
Other: Xeon 1231v3 ($247.98)
Total: $981.38
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available