Question Advice on building a i9 1300k machine for video editing and 3d

[andyb3131]

So i've just had enough of my current ryzen builds and too much poor performance is pushing me to go back to intel but i'm a bit out of the loop.

I'll be keeping my full ATX corsair case and my RTX 3090Ti + 850W PSU but need to go back to intel.

I will overclock it so i'm after advice on which Mobo, CPU cooler and Ram (64GB) i should purchase to get the most of out of it

Its mainly a video editing PC and thats why i want to go for i913900k for the iGPU as i mainly edit h.264

 

[Lafong]

The idea of overclocking a 13900K will probably generate a lot of raised eyebrows....based on previous comments. It's still a hobby for some users.

 

[andyb3131]

The idea of overclocking a 13900K will probably generate a lot of raised eyebrows....based on previous comments. It's still a hobby for some users.

oh is it not a good idea on these cpu's ? if thats the case then i wont!

 

[Why_Me]

420 AIO, a board with solid VRM's and a case with good airflow.

 

[Lafong]

oh is it not a good idea on these cpu's ? if thats the case then i wont!

It's more of a case of why bother.

How much performance gain would you consider to be worthwhile, given the time, trouble, and expense required? 2%? 9%, 21%?

What level of improvement would disappoint you?

You might hear the term "overclocked at the factory". But nothing stopping you from playing with it out of curiosity.

 

[andyb3131]

It's more of a case of why bother.

How much performance gain would you consider to be worthwhile, given the time, trouble, and expense required? 2%? 9%, 21%?

What level of improvement would disappoint you?

You might hear the term "overclocked at the factory". But nothing stopping you from playing with it out of curiosity.

fair enough, just a habiot for me to get the most out of it. If i dont OC do i need to worry so much about mobo and cooler?

 

[Zerk2012]

oh is it not a good idea on these cpu's ? if thats the case then i wont!

The new chips are already pushed to about the max.

 

[Lafong]

fair enough, just a habiot for me to get the most out of it. If i dont OC do i need to worry so much about mobo and cooler?

On a 13900K, you need to worry about mobo and cooler regardless of whether you overclock.

If you drop back to a 13700, 13700K, or 13600K, you can worry a lot less....and not give up much performance at all.

 

[andyb3131]

So can any recommend the parts that would work well for my needs?

 

[logainofhades]

Overclocking is a waste of time, to be honest. What is your budget? If you are going to use quick sync, for the video editing, do you really need an i9?

 

[geofelt]

What editing app are you using?
What are the hardware recommendations for it?

Do you have a budget?

Cooler recommendations for a I9-13900K will vary.
Some recommend 420 sized aio setups down to simple air coolers.
It really depends on how many processing threads can be fully utilized and what your expectations are.
Here is an interesting study which explains how 13th gen processors work:
https://www.tomshardware.com/features/intel-core-13900k-cooling-tested
The applicable text:
Furthermore, Intel’s i9-13900K supports Adaptive Boost Technology (ABT), which allows Core i9 processors to dynamically boost to higher all-core frequencies based upon available thermal headroom and electrical conditions. This allows multi-core loads to operate at up to 5.5ghz if the necessary amount of thermal dissipation is there. This feature works in a way that actively seeks high temperatures: If the chip sees that it is running below the 100-degree C threshold, it will increase its performance and power consumption until it reaches the safe 100C limit, thus sustaining higher clocks (and providing better performance) for longer periods.

I might add that with your apparent budget, consider opting for the I9-13900KS which is some $150 more.
It is a well binned option that will clock higher and be more efficient at lower speeds.

 

[andyb3131]

What editing app are you using?
What are the hardware recommendations for it?

Do you have a budget?

Cooler recommendations for a I9-13900K will vary.
Some recommend 420 sized aio setups down to simple air coolers.
It really depends on how many processing threads can be fully utilized and what your expectations are.
Here is an interesting study which explains how 13th gen processors work:
https://www.tomshardware.com/features/intel-core-13900k-cooling-tested
The applicable text:
Furthermore, Intel’s i9-13900K supports Adaptive Boost Technology (ABT), which allows Core i9 processors to dynamically boost to higher all-core frequencies based upon available thermal headroom and electrical conditions. This allows multi-core loads to operate at up to 5.5ghz if the necessary amount of thermal dissipation is there. This feature works in a way that actively seeks high temperatures: If the chip sees that it is running below the 100-degree C threshold, it will increase its performance and power consumption until it reaches the safe 100C limit, thus sustaining higher clocks (and providing better performance) for longer periods.

I might add that with your apparent budget, consider opting for the I9-13900KS which is some $150 more.
It is a well binned option that will clock higher and be more efficient at lower speeds.

Thankyou for the help, there isnt really a budget and i'll get what i need without overpaying for the sake of it

Its mainly premiere pro with some hefty 4k h.264 files, struggling with my current 3900x and gets choppy to edit at times. I've always stuck to noctua air coolers but think its probably time to move to an AIO to get as much performance as possible.
Ram i'll need 64GB as the adobe suite gets very ram hungry, is there a recomendation on what Ram to pair with the cpu?
Will also be 3D rendering in blender but learning that at the moment and its mainly on the GPU anyway

Basically im after recomendation for the Mobo, AIO & Ram to ensure good performance from the chip. I also have a 850W PSU , is this going to be enough or will that need an upgrade too?

 

[andyb3131]

Thankyou for the help, there isnt really a budget and i'll get what i need without overpaying for the sake of it

Its mainly premiere pro with some hefty 4k h.264 files, struggling with my current 3900x and gets choppy to edit at times. I've always stuck to noctua air coolers but think its probably time to move to an AIO to get as much performance as possible.
Ram i'll need 64GB as the adobe suite gets very ram hungry, is there a recomendation on what Ram to pair with the cpu?
Will also be 3D rendering in blender but learning that at the moment and its mainly on the GPU anyway

Basically im after recomendation for the Mobo, AIO & Ram to ensure good performance from the chip. I also have a 850W PSU , is this going to be enough or will that need an upgrade too?

Its probably also worth noting i have an MSI 3090ti suprim, so an MSI mobo and cooler could be a good option for uniformity if preferable? but im happy to have other brands if it would be more suitable

 

[geofelt]

I am no expert on editing. But, Puget systems are.
Here is an article on hardware recommendations for Premier pro:

Hardware Recommendations

Our workstations for Adobe Premiere Pro are tested and optimized to give you the best performance and reliability. View our hardware recommendations.

www.pugetsystems.com

I do not know what parts are more relevant to you.

On the processor side, the 13900K looks to be a very good choice.

What is your current Noctua cooler?
I might be inclined to try it. Noctua will send you a LGA mounting kit gratis.

With top end cooling, you can get a bit more performance out of your setup.
Study the article I linked above on 13900K cooling.
It included results from using a deepcool AG620 twin tower 120mm cooler that is not as effective as a noctua NH-D15s.
It also included results from a 360 aio deepcool LT20 liquid cooler.

What is the make/model of the case you are planning on?
Liquid cooling of the 360/480 size puts demands on the case.
One needs to mount the radiator for maximum cooling and still provide airflow to cool the motherboard vrm's as well as the graphics card.

On ram, take your pic, DDR4 or DDR5.
Performance is similar.
But 64gb of DDR4 is about $180 and DDR5 is about $240.
Perhaps of more importance is that I see only one $540 256gb ram kits for DDR5.
https://www.newegg.com/a-tech-128gb/p/0RN-005A-00SS3?Item=9SIAMBVJEE3319&quicklink=true
$320 gets you a 128gb DDR4 3600 ram kit:
https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-128gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820374005?quicklink=true

 

[geofelt]

Its probably also worth noting i have an MSI 3090ti suprim, so an MSI mobo and cooler could be a good option for uniformity if preferable? but im happy to have other brands if it would be more suitable

MSI mobo should be as good as any. There is value in being more familiar with how to navigate the bios.
On graphics cards, you are dealing with the nvidia infrastructure and not msi.

Some MSI aio coolers reportedly have issues.
Did you know that aio coolers do not last forever? In time air intrudes or the mechanical pump fails and the unit must be replaced.

 

[andyb3131]

I am no expert on editing. But, Puget systems are.
Here is an article on hardware recommendations for Premier pro:

Hardware Recommendations

Our workstations for Adobe Premiere Pro are tested and optimized to give you the best performance and reliability. View our hardware recommendations.

www.pugetsystems.com

I do not know what parts are more relevant to you.

On the processor side, the 13900K looks to be a very good choice.

What is your current Noctua cooler?
I might be inclined to try it. Noctua will send you a LGA mounting kit gratis.

With top end cooling, you can get a bit more performance out of your setup.
Study the article I linked above on 13900K cooling.
It included results from using a deepcool AG620 twin tower 120mm cooler that is not as effective as a noctua NH-D15s.
It also included results from a 360 aio deepcool LT20 liquid cooler.

What is the make/model of the case you are planning on?
Liquid cooling of the 360/480 size puts demands on the case.
One needs to mount the radiator for maximum cooling and still provide airflow to cool the motherboard vrm's as well as the graphics card.

On ram, take your pic, DDR4 or DDR5.
Performance is similar.
But 64gb of DDR4 is about $180 and DDR5 is about $240.
Perhaps of more importance is that I see only one $540 256gb ram kits for DDR5.
https://www.newegg.com/a-tech-128gb/p/0RN-005A-00SS3?Item=9SIAMBVJEE3319&quicklink=true
$320 gets you a 128gb DDR4 3600 ram kit:
https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-128gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820374005?quicklink=true

Thankyou for all the information

my current cooler is the Noctua NH-U12S SE-AM4, im half tempted to switch to AIO not only performance because its neat.
the case i already have is a Corsair Graphite 780T so its quite large
For Ram i'm thinking just go DDR5 because its newer and im doing a new build so may as well, does it matter on performance if i use 2 slots or 4?

 

[helper800]

Thankyou for the help, there isnt really a budget and i'll get what i need without overpaying for the sake of it

Its mainly premiere pro with some hefty 4k h.264 files, struggling with my current 3900x and gets choppy to edit at times. I've always stuck to noctua air coolers but think its probably time to move to an AIO to get as much performance as possible.
Ram i'll need 64GB as the adobe suite gets very ram hungry, is there a recomendation on what Ram to pair with the cpu?
Will also be 3D rendering in blender but learning that at the moment and its mainly on the GPU anyway

Basically im after recomendation for the Mobo, AIO & Ram to ensure good performance from the chip. I also have a 850W PSU , is this going to be enough or will that need an upgrade too?

The PSU should be fine assuming its a quality unit. What exact case do you have? It will determine what cooler I recommend.

 

[Lafong]

does it matter on performance if i use 2 slots or 4?

Generally 2 is preferred, but you may be forced to 4 if you need DDR5 and 128 GB or more. Don't think I've seen 64 GB sticks of DDR5.

 

[helper800]

Anything from a 13700f to the 13900ks can be appropriate for your use case depending on what you prioritize. Check to make sure your existing case can fit either the 420mm AIO from Arctic or the 360mm AI. My recommendation would be as follows:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i9-13900KS 3 GHz 24-Core Processor ($729.99 @ B&H)
CPU Cooler: ARCTIC Liquid Freezer II 420 72.8 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($162.03 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI MPG Z790 EDGE WIFI ATX LGA1700 Motherboard ($366.99 @ B&H)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR5-6400 CL32 Memory ($329.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: NVIDIA Founders Edition GeForce RTX 3090 Ti 24 GB Video Card (Purchased For $0.00)
Case: Lian Li LANCOOL III ATX Mid Tower Case (Purchased For $0.00)
Power Supply: Corsair RM1000x (2021) 1000 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (Purchased For $0.00)
Total: $1589.00
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-02-16 12:48 EST-0500

 

[andyb3131]

The PSU should be fine assuming its a quality unit. What exact case do you have? It will determine what cooler I recommend.

the current case is the Corsair Graphite 780T

 

[helper800]

the current case is the Corsair Graphite 780T

That case cannot fit the 420mm AIO, but a 360mm AIO is good enough like this;

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i9-13900KS 3 GHz 24-Core Processor ($729.99 @ B&H)
CPU Cooler: ARCTIC Liquid Freezer II 360 56.3 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($124.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI MPG Z790 EDGE WIFI ATX LGA1700 Motherboard ($366.99 @ B&H)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR5-6400 CL32 Memory ($329.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: NVIDIA Founders Edition GeForce RTX 3090 Ti 24 GB Video Card (Purchased For $0.00)
Case: Corsair Graphite Series 780T ATX Full Tower Case (Purchased For $0.00)
Power Supply: Corsair RM1000x (2021) 1000 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (Purchased For $0.00)
Total: $1551.96
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-02-16 13:29 EST-0500

 

[andyb3131]

Anything from a 13700f to the 13900ks can be appropriate for your use case depending on what you prioritize. Check to make sure your existing case can fit either the 420mm AIO from Arctic or the 360mm AI. My recommendation would be as follows:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i9-13900KS 3 GHz 24-Core Processor ($729.99 @ B&H)
CPU Cooler: ARCTIC Liquid Freezer II 420 72.8 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($162.03 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI MPG Z790 EDGE WIFI ATX LGA1700 Motherboard ($366.99 @ B&H)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR5-6400 CL32 Memory ($329.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: NVIDIA Founders Edition GeForce RTX 3090 Ti 24 GB Video Card (Purchased For $0.00)
Case: Lian Li LANCOOL III ATX Mid Tower Case (Purchased For $0.00)
Power Supply: Corsair RM1000x (2021) 1000 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (Purchased For $0.00)
Total: $1589.00
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-02-16 12:48 EST-0500

Thankyou

That case cannot fit the 420mm AIO, but a 360mm AIO is good enough like this;

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i9-13900KS 3 GHz 24-Core Processor ($729.99 @ B&H)
CPU Cooler: ARCTIC Liquid Freezer II 360 56.3 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($124.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI MPG Z790 EDGE WIFI ATX LGA1700 Motherboard ($366.99 @ B&H)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR5-6400 CL32 Memory ($329.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: NVIDIA Founders Edition GeForce RTX 3090 Ti 24 GB Video Card (Purchased For $0.00)
Case: Corsair Graphite Series 780T ATX Full Tower Case (Purchased For $0.00)
Power Supply: Corsair RM1000x (2021) 1000 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (Purchased For $0.00)
Total: $1551.96
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-02-16 13:29 EST-0500

Thankyou for your help, really appreciated! i currently have a corsair RM850 PSU , will this not be powerful enough for the build? i know the 4090s use a lot of power but though i may be able to get away with the 850 on the 3080ti?

 

[helper800]

Thankyou

Thankyou for your help, really appreciated! i currently have a corsair RM850 PSU , will this not be powerful enough for the build? i know the 4090s use a lot of power but though i may be able to get away with the 850 on the 3080ti?

No problem! The RM850 should be fine as long as it is still in warranty. The only time you may be pushing it is when you are nearly fully utilizing both the GPU and the CPU at the same time. The 13900ks can pull 320w or so and the 3090/ti/80 and 4090 can pull around 450-500 watts which leaves very little for the rest of the system. A 1000w RMx from corsair of a 1000w Seasonic PRIME PSU would alleviate these sort of scenarios.

 

[andyb3131]

No problem! The RM850 should be fine as long as it is still in warranty. The only time you may be pushing it is when you are nearly fully utilizing both the GPU and the CPU at the same time. The 13900ks can pull 320w or so and the 3090/ti/80 and 4090 can pull around 450-500 watts which leaves very little for the rest of the system. A 1000w RMx from corsair of a 1000w Seasonic PRIME PSU would alleviate these sort of scenarios.

Thankyou! , I'll upgrade the PSU and try and sell the old one , only just upgraded it when i purchased the 3090 so should have gone for 1000 🤦‍♂️😂

 

[andyb3131]

That case cannot fit the 420mm AIO, but a 360mm AIO is good enough like this;

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i9-13900KS 3 GHz 24-Core Processor ($729.99 @ B&H)
CPU Cooler: ARCTIC Liquid Freezer II 360 56.3 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($124.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI MPG Z790 EDGE WIFI ATX LGA1700 Motherboard ($366.99 @ B&H)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR5-6400 CL32 Memory ($329.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: NVIDIA Founders Edition GeForce RTX 3090 Ti 24 GB Video Card (Purchased For $0.00)
Case: Corsair Graphite Series 780T ATX Full Tower Case (Purchased For $0.00)
Power Supply: Corsair RM1000x (2021) 1000 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (Purchased For $0.00)
Total: $1551.96
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-02-16 13:29 EST-0500

I am having diffulty ordering the Ram in the UK, can you recommend another Ram for the setup?

Thanks so much for your help!