Advice on gaming Pc

[grrsona]

I have this build
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/dXRcTH
The kind people on the forums have already helped me with so many issues, I just want to know if anyone has any opinions and to double check that everything would be compatible.

 

[Chugalug_]

Looks nearly perfect, only thing I would change is the EVGA 1060, it is an ITX model meaning it has a smaller PCB, fewer power phases and lower voltage delivery. As a result it boosts and overclocks lower, and it also only has a single fan cooling solution.
Get this instead when it comes back into stock: http://pcpartpicker.com/product/QVWrxr/zotac-geforce-gtx-1060-6gb-amp-edition-video-card-zt-p10600b-10m
I assume you need the i7 for rendering?
Also the CPU cooler is 15% off w/ promo code TOMSHDWE15, and ends 8/22.

 

[Chugalug_]

If you're not rendering and just gaming, get this instead:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6600K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($219.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Deepcool GAMMAXX 400 74.3 CFM CPU Cooler ($13.80 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z170-HD3 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($100.66 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory ($60.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: OCZ TRION 150 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($59.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($47.49 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 1070 8GB SC Gaming ACX 3.0 Video Card ($429.99 @ B&H)
Case: Zalman Z1 ATX Mid Tower Case ($24.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic S12II 520W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($58.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $1003.89
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-08-21 07:55 EDT-0400

 

[King Dranzer]

If you're not rendering and just gaming, get this instead:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6600K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($219.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Deepcool GAMMAXX 400 74.3 CFM CPU Cooler ($13.80 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z170-HD3 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($100.66 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($62.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: OCZ TRION 150 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($59.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($47.49 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 1070 8GB SC Gaming ACX 3.0 Video Card ($429.99 @ B&H)
Case: Zalman Z1 ATX Mid Tower Case ($24.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic S12II 520W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($58.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $1005.89
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-08-21 07:40 EDT-0400

Had same thought,
If only for gaming i5-6600K GTX1070 is lot more powerful than i7-6700K GTX1060 build
Good one Chugalug_

 

[grrsona]

Looks nearly perfect, only thing I would change is the EVGA 1060, it is an ITX model meaning it has a smaller PCB, fewer power phases and lower voltage delivery. As a result it boosts and overclocks lower, and it also only has a single fan cooling solution.
Get this instead when it comes back into stock: http://pcpartpicker.com/product/QVWrxr/zotac-geforce-gtx-1060-6gb-amp-edition-video-card-zt-p10600b-10m
I assume you need the i7 for rendering?
Also the CPU cooler is 15% off w/ promo code TOMSHDWE15, and ends 8/22.

Just gaming, no rendering.

 

[Chugalug_]

Great, then get the build I listed above and you're set!
Reposted for reference:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6600K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($219.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Deepcool GAMMAXX 400 74.3 CFM CPU Cooler ($13.80 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z170-HD3 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($100.66 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory ($60.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: OCZ TRION 150 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($59.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($47.49 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 1070 8GB SC Gaming ACX 3.0 Video Card ($429.99 @ B&H)
Case: Zalman Z1 ATX Mid Tower Case ($24.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic S12II 520W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($58.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $1003.89
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-08-21 08:03 EDT-0400

 

[grrsona]

Great, then get the build I listed above and you're set!
Reposted for reference:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6600K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($219.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Deepcool GAMMAXX 400 74.3 CFM CPU Cooler ($13.80 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z170-HD3 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($100.66 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory ($60.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: OCZ TRION 150 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($59.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($47.49 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 1070 8GB SC Gaming ACX 3.0 Video Card ($429.99 @ B&H)
Case: Zalman Z1 ATX Mid Tower Case ($24.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic S12II 520W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($58.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $1003.89
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-08-21 08:03 EDT-0400

This build is exactly what I want, except the price. My original budget was originally $800. Could I lower the quality of some materials to bring it down a bit? It doesnt have to be $800 but $1000 is alot. If I go lower how good would the computer be? How good compared to this one?

 

[grrsona]

Great, then get the build I listed above and you're set!
Reposted for reference:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6600K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($219.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Deepcool GAMMAXX 400 74.3 CFM CPU Cooler ($13.80 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z170-HD3 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($100.66 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory ($60.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: OCZ TRION 150 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($59.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($47.49 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 1070 8GB SC Gaming ACX 3.0 Video Card ($429.99 @ B&H)
Case: Zalman Z1 ATX Mid Tower Case ($24.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic S12II 520W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($58.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $1003.89
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-08-21 08:03 EDT-0400

Okay then, I have these 2 options:
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/XC368K
and
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/74KYgL

There are two differences: The GPU and PSU

The GPU: The difference bewtween the 6gig 1060 and the 8gig 1070 is over $100, which is alot.
What is the performance difference bewtween the two cards? Is there a lower gig 1070 I could do? I am just looking for performance in games, is the difference bewtween the 60 and the 70 that much?

The PSU: The 2 PSU's have the same costs, but one is 620 w and one is 520w, is there a difference in quality? Which is the better choice for this build.

Lastly: the build has 16 gigs of ram, is this neccesary for gaming? Could I drop it to 8 and have the same performance?

Also would I have any luck with an older generation of card?

 

[Chugalug_]

In regards to the RAM 16GB is quickly becoming standard, and I wouldn't recommend an older GPU, i'll get a good build back to you in 30, brb. 😉

 

[Chugalug_]

Here you go.
If you want to bring it under budget, get the Gigabyte H110M-A, although the B150 is only $10 more, and has a better design with 4 RAM slots instead of two, allowing 32GB upgradability.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6500 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($204.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Deepcool GAMMAXX 400 74.3 CFM CPU Cooler ($17.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-B150M-DS3H Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($63.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory ($60.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: OCZ TRION 150 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($59.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($47.49 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Zotac GeForce GTX 1060 6GB AMP! Edition Video Card ($279.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Zalman Z1 ATX Mid Tower Case ($24.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic S12II 520W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($58.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $806.40
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-08-22 06:07 EDT-0400

 

[grrsona]

Here you go.
If you want to bring it under budget, get the Gigabyte H110M-A, although the B150 is only $10 more, and has a better design with 4 RAM slots instead of two, allowing 32GB upgradability.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6500 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($204.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Deepcool GAMMAXX 400 74.3 CFM CPU Cooler ($17.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-B150M-DS3H Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($63.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory ($60.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: OCZ TRION 150 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($59.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($47.49 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Zotac GeForce GTX 1060 6GB AMP! Edition Video Card ($279.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Zalman Z1 ATX Mid Tower Case ($24.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic S12II 520W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($58.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $806.40
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-08-22 06:07 EDT-0400

This is a perfect low budget option thankyou! How long do you think this build would last in the gaming world?

 

[Chugalug_]

I'd say it'd last you easily the next 2 years. After that it may have trouble maxing some stuff at a high enough frame rate for your liking. This is typically the case with most graphics cards though, not to worry!
The CPU should last you much longer. Even the sandy bridge i5 which came out in 2011 I believe is still a great CPU today for reference.
It should serve you perfectly in the games you've listed, and max out most games at 1080p 60fps. Do you want a 144Hz monitor for CS:GO? Makes a massive difference.
If so, get the VG248QE. Goes for around $250, and is a great combo for your graphics card.
You also have the option of getting a GTX 1070 G1 Gaming if you play graphically demanding stuff, but again, given your listed games, a 1060 will be more than enough.

 

[grrsona]

I'd say it'd last you easily the next 2 years. After that it may have trouble maxing some stuff at a high enough frame rate for your liking. This is typically the case with most graphics cards though, not to worry!
The CPU should last you much longer. Even the sandy bridge i5 which came out in 2011 I believe is still a great CPU today for reference.
It should serve you perfectly in the games you've listed, and max out most games at 1080p 60fps. Do you want a 144Hz monitor for CS:GO? Makes a massive difference.
If so, get the VG248QE. Goes for around $250, and is a great combo for your graphics card.
You also have the option of getting a GTX 1070 G1 Gaming if you play graphically demanding stuff, but again, given your listed games, a 1060 will be more than enough.

I dont plan to base it around CSGO. I am looking more for longevity, if in two years the 1070 will still be viable then ill do what I can to get it over the 1060, but if both the 1060 and the 1070 will need an upgrade around the same time then I will just go with the 1060, I dont need perfect quality gaming, just strong gaming for as long as I can. How long will the two cards last comparitevely?
And if I do go with the 1060 could I use the extra cash I saved to make the computer viable for an upgrade in 2 years? Like if the 1060 becomes obsolete would the computer still be strong enough for a new generation? Say if I upgraded the i5 to a 6600K and made the motherboard better?

 

[grrsona]

I'd say it'd last you easily the next 2 years. After that it may have trouble maxing some stuff at a high enough frame rate for your liking. This is typically the case with most graphics cards though, not to worry!
The CPU should last you much longer. Even the sandy bridge i5 which came out in 2011 I believe is still a great CPU today for reference.
It should serve you perfectly in the games you've listed, and max out most games at 1080p 60fps. Do you want a 144Hz monitor for CS:GO? Makes a massive difference.
If so, get the VG248QE. Goes for around $250, and is a great combo for your graphics card.
You also have the option of getting a GTX 1070 G1 Gaming if you play graphically demanding stuff, but again, given your listed games, a 1060 will be more than enough.

I dont plan to base it around CSGO. I am looking more for longevity, if in two years the 1070 will still be viable then ill do what I can to get it over the 1060, but if both the 1060 and the 1070 will need an upgrade around the same time then I will just go with the 1060, I dont need perfect quality gaming, just strong gaming for as long as I can. How long will the two cards last comparitevely?
And if I do go with the 1060 could I use the extra cash I saved to make the computer viable for an upgrade in 2 years? Like if the 1060 becomes obsolete would the computer still be strong enough for a new generation? Say if I upgraded the i5 to a 6600K and made the motherboard better?

 

[Chugalug_]

The 1070 is a better long term investment. 😉
The 6600k route is great in terms of futureproofing if you want to get more lifespan out of your CPU and you're into overclocking.
Go for this:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6600K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($219.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Deepcool GAMMAXX 400 74.3 CFM CPU Cooler ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z170-HD3 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($98.89 @ OutletPC)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory ($67.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: OCZ TRION 150 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($59.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($47.49 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 1070 8GB SC Gaming ACX 3.0 Video Card ($429.99 @ B&H)
Case: Zalman Z1 ATX Mid Tower Case ($24.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic S12II 520W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($58.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $1010.31
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-08-23 04:48 EDT-0400

 

[grrsona]

The 1070 is a better long term investment. 😉
The 6600k route is great in terms of futureproofing if you want to get more lifespan out of your CPU and you're into overclocking.
Go for this:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6600K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($219.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Deepcool GAMMAXX 400 74.3 CFM CPU Cooler ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z170-HD3 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($98.89 @ OutletPC)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory ($67.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: OCZ TRION 150 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($59.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($47.49 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 1070 8GB SC Gaming ACX 3.0 Video Card ($429.99 @ B&H)
Case: Zalman Z1 ATX Mid Tower Case ($24.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic S12II 520W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($58.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $1010.31
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-08-23 04:48 EDT-0400

Thanks so much for all your help! I am going to figure out monetary situation, then either get the cheaper one if I have to or hopefully go with that, thanks a ton!