Advice on PC Re-build

[Treemachine]

Asking for opinions/suggestions on anything I should change or a good alternative to the future rebuild.



Userbenchmark PC Build Comparison



(CURRENT BUILD) (bottlenecked)
Baseline Bench: Game 55%, Desk 47%, Work 32%
CPU: AMD FX-6350 Six-Core $115
GPU: Nvidia GTX 1060-6GB $285
SSD: Mushkin ECO3 240GB $98
RAM: Kingston HyperX DDR3 1600 C10 1x8GB
MBD: Asrock 970M Pro3
Total: $498

(FUTURE RE-BUILD)
Alternative Bench: Game 75%, Desk 106%, Work 105%
CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 1800X $300
GPU: Nvidia GTX 1060-6GB $285
SSD: Corsair Force MP500 NVMe PCIe M.2 240GB $135
RAM: G.SKILL Trident Z DDR4 3600 C16 2x8GB $230
MBD: MSI B350 TOMAHAWK (MS-7A34) $90
Total: $1,040



My CPU/motherboard and ram are all current bottlenecking the living hell out of my GPU. Was a pre-build I foolishly bought for my first gaming PC. After much learning and speaking with others the (FUTURE RE-BUILD) is what I've come up with so far to fix the issues for maximum performance boosts with minimal investment (as I am on a fixed low budget income)


Would greatly appreciate you computer genius's opinion on this.

 

[zoltan.boese]

I doubt that pre-built system had a decent power supply. Are you sure you want to re-use that part? May I recommend buying a Corsair CX 450W ...

 

[ARICH5]

you have no hard drive, and you need an operating system. and you have no psu in which to power the unit. and you paired a budget weak gpu with a top of the line cpu.....poor build.

 

[johnyj7657]

your basically doing a build not a rebuild.

you can either salvage the ssd and use in the new build for windows or keep it in your old pc for surfing internet or media player.

If the 1060 video card is enough for your needs you can take that out and use the integrated graphics on old pc.

Since replacing the Mobo you would need to rebuy windows as the license on prebuilts is tied to the Mobo. and your Power supply will not be enough. chances of that fitting into your prebuilts case are slim without some chopping and cob jobbing

So you are basically building a new pc.

 

[zoltan.boese]

you have no hard drive, and you need an operating system. and you have no psu in which to power the unit. and you paired a budget weak gpu with a top of the line cpu.....poor build.

The 1060 is a capable card for full HD gaming, and considering the present prices not a terrible choice.
On the other hand ARICH5 is right on the matter of storage, single games can take up 40GB space, a larger SSD or a secondary hard disk drive can come handy. Also you will need windows for gaming, that is an important point.

 

[Treemachine]

you have no hard drive, and you need an operating system. and you have no psu in which to power the unit. and you paired a budget weak gpu with a top of the line cpu.....poor build.

Well my SDD currently is my harddrive, with windows 10 installed. Doesn't that count?

And I'm looking up a way to find my power unit. I suppose I may just have to open the computer up to tell.

but the current build is running ATM, so it's not missing anything

 

[Treemachine]

you have no hard drive, and you need an operating system. and you have no psu in which to power the unit. and you paired a budget weak gpu with a top of the line cpu.....poor build.

The 1060 is a capable card for full HD gaming, and considering the present prices not a terrible choice.
On the other hand ARICH5 is right on the matter of storage, single games can take up 40GB space, a larger SSD or a secondary hard disk drive can come handy. Also you will need windows for gaming, that is an important point.

I currently have a 2TB USB 3.0 Seagate I use for slower games, and my 250gb SSD for high intensity games & my OS
and a 500gb 2.0 seagate that I use for photos/videos. I was under the impression my 1060gb was pretty good, not top end but better than most of the older cards like the 1050 or the 980.

 

[zoltan.boese]

you have no hard drive, and you need an operating system. and you have no psu in which to power the unit. and you paired a budget weak gpu with a top of the line cpu.....poor build.

The 1060 is a capable card for full HD gaming, and considering the present prices not a terrible choice.
On the other hand ARICH5 is right on the matter of storage, single games can take up 40GB space, a larger SSD or a secondary hard disk drive can come handy. Also you will need windows for gaming, that is an important point.

The 1060 is better than the 1050 and performs slightly better than the gtx980. You do not need anything stronger for 1920x1080p resolution.

I currently have a 2TB USB 3.0 Seagate I use for slower games, and my 250gb SSD for high intensity games & my OS
and a 500gb 2.0 seagate that I use for photos/videos. I was under the impression my 1060gb was pretty good, not top end but better than most of the older cards like the 1050 or the 980.

 

[Treemachine]

your basically doing a build not a rebuild.

you can either salvage the ssd and use in the new build for windows or keep it in your old pc for surfing internet or media player.

If the 1060 video card is enough for your needs you can take that out and use the integrated graphics on old pc.

Since replacing the Mobo you would need to rebuy windows as the license on prebuilts is tied to the Mobo. and your Power supply will not be enough. chances of that fitting into your prebuilts case are slim without some chopping and cob jobbing

So you are basically building a new pc.

Okay I appreciate the advice. Would a
https://www.amazon.com/ROSEWILL-Stryker-Computer-Pre-installed-Desktop/dp/B00XD42G1G/ref=sr_1_2_sspa?ie=UTF8&qid=1519822696&sr=8-2-spons&keywords=LArge+PC+case&psc=1

Or perhaps

https://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Crystal-570X-RGB-CC-9011098-WW/dp/B01LE0ZKR2/ref=sr_1_4?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1519822760&sr=1-4&keywords=corsair+case

Be a large enough case to accomodate large size components such as the previously mentioned and a larger (450 -650w) power supply? I didn't know that about operating systems.. Really appreciate that tip.

 

[zoltan.boese]

We do not know how high the CPU cooler heatsink is, or how long your graphics card will be. Both case can accommodate the power supply and motherboard discussed above.

 

[zoltan.boese]

What do you think about the fractal design meshify case? It is a mix of the two you linked, good airflow, mesh front and glass side panel.

 

[Treemachine]

What do you think about the fractal design meshify case? It is a mix of the two you linked, good airflow, mesh front and glass side panel.

that is a VERY nice case. I was just made aware that there are mid -towers vs Full towers. Is a full tower recommended ?

 

[ArchitSahu]

Here are some options:
1) The Ryzen 7 1700x is much better for usage and saving money vs the 1800x, which can be matched by an OC on that 1700x.
2) Good choice on RAM, but go for 3000Mhz to save some money.
3) For the NVMe SSD, you can swap it out for a normal SSD, but I would keep it just because it is faster.
4) Pair an X370 mobo with that CPU for full usage, do not go with a B350 with that, a Ryzen 5 would be a better pair for that mobo.
5) If first time builder, go NZXT S340 as it is pretty beginner friendly.
6) For the PSU, go with a quality component. Corsair RMx 650W, or Seasonic series should be good.

What country? What budget? Maybe some options are out there.

 

[ArchitSahu]

What do you think about the fractal design meshify case? It is a mix of the two you linked, good airflow, mesh front and glass side panel.

that is a VERY nice case. I was just made aware that there are mid -towers vs Full towers. Is a full tower recommended ?

Full Towers are massive. Most Mid towers are good enough.

 

[Treemachine]

Here are some options:
1) The Ryzen 7 1700x is much better for usage and saving money vs the 1800x, which can be matched by an OC on that 1700x.
2) Good choice on RAM, but go for 3000Mhz to save some money.
3) For the NVMe SSD, you can swap it out for a normal SSD, but I would keep it just because it is faster.
4) Pair an X370 mobo with that CPU for full usage, do not go with a B350 with that, a Ryzen 5 would be a better pair for that mobo.
5) If first time builder, go NZXT S340 as it is pretty beginner friendly.
6) For the PSU, go with a quality component. Corsair RMx 650W, or Seasonic series should be good.

What country? What budget? Maybe some options are out there.

I am in USA, budget is ~1200
Those are all really good points


I found this case

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00GMG5KD8/_encoding=UTF8?coliid=I1MDMP3AFMKU4Y&colid=22JHO5PBXTZVK&psc=0

and switched out to this motherboard

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B06W2L6GBX/_encoding=UTF8?coliid=I38BQKKLF09NHA&colid=22JHO5PBXTZVK&psc=1

with this power supply

 

[Treemachine]

Here are some options:
1) The Ryzen 7 1700x is much better for usage and saving money vs the 1800x, which can be matched by an OC on that 1700x.
2) Good choice on RAM, but go for 3000Mhz to save some money.
3) For the NVMe SSD, you can swap it out for a normal SSD, but I would keep it just because it is faster.
4) Pair an X370 mobo with that CPU for full usage, do not go with a B350 with that, a Ryzen 5 would be a better pair for that mobo.
5) If first time builder, go NZXT S340 as it is pretty beginner friendly.
6) For the PSU, go with a quality component. Corsair RMx 650W, or Seasonic series should be good.

What country? What budget? Maybe some options are out there.

I am in USA, budget is ~1200
Those are all really good points


I found this case

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00GMG5KD8/_encoding=UTF8?coliid=I1MDMP3AFMKU4Y&colid=22JHO5PBXTZVK&psc=0

and switched out to this motherboard

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B06W2L6GBX/_encoding=UTF8?coliid=I38BQKKLF09NHA&colid=22JHO5PBXTZVK&psc=1

with this power supply
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B015YEI9NQ/_encoding=UTF8?coliid=I3BK48O60FVLHN&colid=22JHO5PBXTZVK&psc=0

 

[zoltan.boese]

Here are some options:
1) The Ryzen 7 1700x is much better for usage and saving money vs the 1800x, which can be matched by an OC on that 1700x.
2) Good choice on RAM, but go for 3000Mhz to save some money.
3) For the NVMe SSD, you can swap it out for a normal SSD, but I would keep it just because it is faster.
4) Pair an X370 mobo with that CPU for full usage, do not go with a B350 with that, a Ryzen 5 would be a better pair for that mobo.
5) If first time builder, go NZXT S340 as it is pretty beginner friendly.
6) For the PSU, go with a quality component. Corsair RMx 650W, or Seasonic series should be good.

What country? What budget? Maybe some options are out there.

I am in USA, budget is ~1200
Those are all really good points


I found this case

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00GMG5KD8/_encoding=UTF8?coliid=I1MDMP3AFMKU4Y&colid=22JHO5PBXTZVK&psc=0

and switched out to this motherboard

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B06W2L6GBX/_encoding=UTF8?coliid=I38BQKKLF09NHA&colid=22JHO5PBXTZVK&psc=1

with this power supply
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B015YEI9NQ/_encoding=UTF8?coliid=I3BK48O60FVLHN&colid=22JHO5PBXTZVK&psc=0

They are compatible. Great!

 

[ArchitSahu]

Here are some options:
1) The Ryzen 7 1700x is much better for usage and saving money vs the 1800x, which can be matched by an OC on that 1700x.
2) Good choice on RAM, but go for 3000Mhz to save some money.
3) For the NVMe SSD, you can swap it out for a normal SSD, but I would keep it just because it is faster.
4) Pair an X370 mobo with that CPU for full usage, do not go with a B350 with that, a Ryzen 5 would be a better pair for that mobo.
5) If first time builder, go NZXT S340 as it is pretty beginner friendly.
6) For the PSU, go with a quality component. Corsair RMx 650W, or Seasonic series should be good.

What country? What budget? Maybe some options are out there.

I am in USA, budget is ~1200
Those are all really good points


I found this case

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00GMG5KD8/_encoding=UTF8?coliid=I1MDMP3AFMKU4Y&colid=22JHO5PBXTZVK&psc=0

and switched out to this motherboard

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B06W2L6GBX/_encoding=UTF8?coliid=I38BQKKLF09NHA&colid=22JHO5PBXTZVK&psc=1

with this power supply
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B015YEI9NQ/_encoding=UTF8?coliid=I3BK48O60FVLHN&colid=22JHO5PBXTZVK&psc=0

Good choices. I made some changes to them, here is a build with that NVMe SSD you choose. Does not include the 1060. The SSD I choose is cheaper than yours and is considered better from some sources. The RAM is also cheaper and 3000Mhz, so Ryzen loves it.

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/2qPGXP
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/2qPGXP/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 1700X 3.4GHz 8-Core Processor ($279.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Corsair - H100i v2 70.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock - X370 KILLER SLI/ac ATX AM4 Motherboard ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($169.89 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Samsung - 960 EVO 250GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($110.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Phanteks - ECLIPSE P400S TEMPERED GLASS ATX Mid Tower Case ($79.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair - RMx 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $910.83
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-02-28 09:04 EST-0500

$300 cheaper than your budget.

Also consider Intel if you are gaming only as it is better in that case:
PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/nmmJxG
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/nmmJxG/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel - Core i7-8700K 3.7GHz 6-Core Processor ($334.99 @ Newegg Business)
CPU Cooler: Corsair - H100i v2 70.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: MSI - Z370-A PRO ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($117.89 @ OutletPC)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($169.89 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Samsung - 960 EVO 250GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($110.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Phanteks - ECLIPSE P400S TEMPERED GLASS ATX Mid Tower Case ($79.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair - RMx 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1003.73
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-02-28 09:05 EST-0500


Again, cheaper. PSU is good quality, and will last for some time.