Advice on powerful gaming rig - bottlenecks?

[yellowglove]

Here is the system I want to get:

Motherboard: Intel H77 Chipset

CPU: Intel Core i7 3770K Quad Core CPU, 3.5GHz

Cooling: Intel original cooling wiht heatsink

Ram: 8GB (2 x 4GB) Dual Channel DDR3 PC-12800 (1600MHz)

Video card: GTX 690

800watt PSU, other parts not as relevant to my question I guess.

What I want to know is:
(1) Will the gtx 690 be bottlenecked by games (especally cpu demanding games) IF I do not overclock the CPU and stay with the H77 motherboard (which has limited overclocking potential)

(2) If i do upgrade to Z77 and overclock to say 4 or 4.5 ghz, will I need to get a better cooling system

(3) Will better ram help for gaming at all

Basically, I want to know if the GTX 690 will be bottlenecked by other parts - I want to make the most out if it but spend as little as possible on the upgrades I have talked about - or know if any are neccessary at all. Thanks in advance.
p.s wanting to game at both 1080p and then 1400p/1600p and maybe even multiple monitors

 

[tiny voices]

1) No, it will be perfectly fine.
2) Yes, An aftermarket air cooler will be required.
3) Not really.

Advice? Get an i5 3570k. Exactly the same as the i7 in terms of gaming power. Get a z77 board.

 

[yellowglove]

1) No, it will be perfectly fine.
2) Yes, An aftermarket air cooler will be required.
3) Not really.

Advice? Get an i5 3570k. Exactly the same as the i7 in terms of gaming power. Get a z77 board.

Thanks for the reply. Ill go for the z77, its only $29 more. Ill get the system now and get a better cooler later (so I won't overclock yet)

 

[de5_Roy]

Here is the system I want to get:

Motherboard: Intel H77 Chipset

CPU: Intel Core i7 3770K Quad Core CPU, 3.5GHz

Cooling: Intel original cooling wiht heatsink

Ram: 8GB (2 x 4GB) Dual Channel DDR3 PC-12800 (1600MHz)

Video card: GTX 690

800watt PSU, other parts not as relevant to my question I guess.

What I want to know is:
(1) Will the gtx 690 be bottlenecked by games (especally cpu demanding games) IF I do not overclock the CPU and stay with the H77 motherboard (which has limited overclocking potential)

h77 doesn't only have limited oc potential. it has none. the only thing you can oc is the igpu and i am pretty sure you're not gonna use that for games (the gtx 690 will cry). according to 3770k owners, it'd worth getting an oc mobo if you get a 3770k. i'd agree. if you stick with the stock settings, the cpu might bottleneck in some games as the gtx 690 is a dual gpu card - which might have at least some cpu overhead.

(2) If i do upgrade to Z77 and overclock to say 4 or 4.5 ghz, will I need to get a better cooling system

yes.
a cm hyper 212 evo can push up to 4.3-4.4. 4.5 ghz. higher than that, you need a better cooler, like noctua nh d14. make sure you get a sturdy mobo, otherwise a heavy air cooler can flex the pcb and cause reliability issues.

(3) Will better ram help for gaming at all

some games like f1 seem to benefit from faster ram. but in gaming, the gpu matters the most, then the cpu, then ram and other components.

Basically, I want to know if the GTX 690 will be bottlenecked by other parts - I want to make the most out if it but spend as little as possible on the upgrades I have talked about - or know if any are necessary at all. Thanks in advance.
p.s wanting to game at both 1080p and then 1400p/1600p and maybe even multiple monitors

you didn't post full specs. the stock core i7 may bottleneck in some cases, but it's capable enough to get playable (as in 30-60+ fps, with details turned up) fps with most of current games.
upgrades? from what? your list is practically a new pc.

 

[ram1009]

Here is the system I want to get:

Motherboard: Intel H77 Chipset

CPU: Intel Core i7 3770K Quad Core CPU, 3.5GHz

Cooling: Intel original cooling wiht heatsink

Ram: 8GB (2 x 4GB) Dual Channel DDR3 PC-12800 (1600MHz)

Video card: GTX 690

800watt PSU, other parts not as relevant to my question I guess.

What I want to know is:
(1) Will the gtx 690 be bottlenecked by games (especally cpu demanding games) IF I do not overclock the CPU and stay with the H77 motherboard (which has limited overclocking potential)

(2) If i do upgrade to Z77 and overclock to say 4 or 4.5 ghz, will I need to get a better cooling system

(3) Will better ram help for gaming at all

Basically, I want to know if the GTX 690 will be bottlenecked by other parts - I want to make the most out if it but spend as little as possible on the upgrades I have talked about - or know if any are neccessary at all. Thanks in advance.
p.s wanting to game at both 1080p and then 1400p/1600p and maybe even multiple monitors

You can't build a computer without a "bottleneck". One component will always be the slowest. If you replace it with something faster all you accomplish is to make something else the slowest.

 

[yellowglove]

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h77 doesn't only have limited oc potential. it has none. the only thing you can oc is the igpu and i am pretty sure you're not gonna use that for games (the gtx 690 will cry). according to 3770k owners, it'd worth getting an oc mobo if you get a 3770k. i'd agree. if you stick with the stock settings, the cpu might bottleneck in some games as the gtx 690 is a dual gpu card - which might have at least some cpu overhead.

Alright I will definately go for z77

yes.
a cm hyper 212 evo can push up to 4.3-4.4. 4.5 and over, you need a better cooler, like noctua nh d14. make sure you get a sturdy mobo, otherwise a heavy air cooler can flix the pcb and cause reliability issues.

What I will do is get the z77 and initially keep the processor on stock speed, and later on get better cooling and overclock it. This is just because I want it now and will have more money to spend later.

you didn't post full specs. the stock core i7 may bottleneck in some cases, but it's capable enough to get playable (as in 30-60+ fps, with details turned up) fps.
upgrades? from what? your list is practically a new pc. [/quotemsg]

I meant upgrade the individual parts in the complete new PC I am yet to get! (like H77>Z77 or better cooling or ram), not upgrade as in upgrade parts of an old pc, sorry if the way I said it was misleading. Thanks for the reply.

 

[yellowglove]

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You can't build a computer without a "bottleneck". One component will always be the slowest. If you replace it with something faster all you accomplish is to make something else the slowest.[/quotemsg]

Just want to make sure the gap between the slowest and 2nd slowest is not too big

 

[yellowglove]

sorry the quotes in my last reply were the other way around, I am noob to the forum

 

[de5_Roy]

Alright I will definately go for z77

What I will do is get the z77 and initially keep the processor on stock speed, and later on get better cooling and overclock it. This is just because I want it now and will have more money to spend later.

that's perfectly okay. i hope you know how to wipe thermal grease/paste off the cpu.

I meant upgrade the individual parts in the complete new PC I am yet to get! (like H77>Z77 or better cooling or ram), not upgrade as in upgrade parts of an old pc, sorry if the way I said it was misleading. Thanks for the reply.

i'd suggest to not upgrade the motherboard if you're buying the parts now. motherboard is one of the p.i.t.a. parts to change anyway and most of the time doesn't benefit much. the lga1155 platform (ivy bridge cpu, h77, z77 motherboards and others) is dead end as intel will launch new-but-incompatible platform this year. better to get a good mobo and stick with it. coolers, ram, gfx card, psu are easier to change/upgrade.

btw, with the new forum upgrade, i am a newbie myself. still getting to know the new system.

 

[yellowglove]

OK, thanks I think I will go for the z77 straight up. The build I have mentioned is a pre built package (for $2000 Australian, and thats cheaper than buying the parts separately here, and a good deal considering how much computers cost here) with the option to upgrade individual parts for extra $$. The H77>Z77 is an extra $30, which ill definitely go for. Ill keep the default ram and cooling for now. BTW the operative system drive is SSD.