Question Advice On What Cooling System For Ryzen 7 1800x

[Thecoombzies]

Hey Everyone,

Just looking for a bit of advice im upgrading my Ryzen 5 to A Ryzen 7 1800x and need a better cooling sysyem.

Here is what im running currently :

AMD ryzen 5 4500 @ 3.9 ghz

Super Fast game turbo white rgb 40gb ram

Gamemax rgb liquid cooling system

Dual graphics 2x Asus strix GTX 960 2gb gpu

Aorus B450 elite gaming motherboard

512gb SSD128gb SSD128gb SSD M.21tb

HDDTp link wireless wifi card

700watt psu power supply Windows 10 Pro 64 bit

Usb ports 3.0 and 2.0

If you could advice me on the best cooling system to buy for the upgrade that would be great thanks in advance

 

[Eximo]

That really wouldn't gain you much. It may have more cores, but they are slower so for any non multithreaded task you are slowing yourself down.

I would just drop in a Ryzen 5700x if you want an actual upgrade.

https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compar...400-vs-AMD-Ryzen-7-1800X-vs-AMD-Ryzen-7-5700X

 

[Thecoombzies]

That really wouldn't gain you much. It may have more cores, but they are slower so for any non multithreaded task you are slowing yourself down.

I would just drop in a Ryzen 5700x if you want an actual upgrade.

https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compar...400-vs-AMD-Ryzen-7-1800X-vs-AMD-Ryzen-7-5700X

So you think the Ryzen 5700x would be a better upgrade would this also require a cooling system upgrade ?

 

[Eximo]

If you have even a 120mm AIO that is enough for operation of any AM5 CPU. They self regulate.

You only need a better cooler if you want the absolute best the CPU can deliver.

 

[CountMike]

If you have even a 120mm AIO that is enough for operation of any AM5 CPU. They self regulate.

You only need a better cooler if you want the absolute best the CPU can deliver.

Not all AM5 Ryzen, 5800x and up need much better coolers. Yes they "self regulate" but by limiting boost and even throttling if temps go over 90-95c and so lowering performance. That's why those come without a cooler. Besides that, 120mm AIOs are not better and can be even worse than good 120-140mm air coolers.

 

[Eximo]

I agree I shouldn't have said ANY AM5 CPU, though it would still work. Just saying that if you can already cool a 1800X, then a 5700X should be little trouble and no need to spend the extra money.

 

[geofelt]

Since you have had your aio for a while, it is probably nearing the failure point(think 5 years) and should be replaced.
Yes, the R7-1800X is no upgrade at all.

Here is the cpu support list for your motherboard:
https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/B450-AORUS-ELITE-rev-1x/support#support-cpu

Noctua maintains a list of suitable air coolers for different processors.
For example, here is the list for a 5600X:
https://ncc.noctua.at/cpus/model/AMD-Ryzen-5-5600X-1047

A simple 120mm tower like the NH-U12S is suitable.

 

[Eximo]

Rather expensive cooler. Granted you pretty much only ever have to buy the one. But not sure about the chassis dimensions so there is potential that one might be too tall.

I would play it more safe with something like:

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/dd...king-90-44-cfm-cpu-cooler-assassin-king-90-d3

or

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/JcqPxr/be-quiet-pure-rock-slim-2-cpu-cooler-bk030

If there is room for a 120mm cooler, then:

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/BT...se-plus-6617-cfm-cpu-cooler-ax120r-se-plus-d6

 

[logainofhades]

Not all AM5 Ryzen, 5800x and up need much better coolers. Yes they "self regulate" but by limiting boost and even throttling if temps go over 90-95c and so lowering performance. That's why those come without a cooler. Besides that, 120mm AIOs are not better and can be even worse than good 120-140mm air coolers.

A 5800x doesn't need as much as people claim. I ran mine on a cheap Vetroo V5 without issue.

 

[geofelt]

What is the make/model of your case?
The specs should list the height available for a cpu cooler.

 

[CountMike]

A 5800x doesn't need as much as people claim. I ran mine on a cheap Vetroo V5 without issue.

Well, I run my 5800x under a 360 AIO and it was a fight to keep it at about 80c and get full performance out of it. Had to use every trick in the book to achieve it.

 

[logainofhades]

Maybe mine was a golden sample? I only hit that high running a stress test, like cinebench. Gaming never got that high. Mine was even in an ITX case.

 

[Eximo]

Well, I run my 5800x under a 360 AIO and it was a fight to keep it at about 80c and get full performance out of it. Had to use every trick in the book to achieve it.

If you mean the advertised clocks, you almost never see those out of the box without some tweaks. With good cooling and PBO on you might see 100Mhz over stock max boost, but as near as I can tell most people will hover around 50-75Mhz under the listed boost frequency while gaming. At least from all the times people complained about it when they were new.

 

[CountMike]

If you mean the advertised clocks, you almost never see those out of the box without some tweaks. With good cooling and PBO on you might see 100Mhz over stock max boost, but as near as I can tell most people will hover around 50-75Mhz under the listed boost frequency while gaming. At least from all the times people complained about it when they were new.

I want to get my money's worth and I got even a bit more than advertised frequencies. For 100MHz or so less, 5700x would be better and cheaper fit as it is much easier to cool with it's 65W TDP. .

 

[Eximo]

5700X was my recommendation at the start. 5800X was tossed out there.

 

[CountMike]

5700X was my recommendation at the start. 5800X was tossed out there.

Yes, if one doesn't want to fuss with cooling and don't mind slight drop in performance. BTW same effect could be achieved with 5800x as most BIOS versions have option to set TDP/power to 65W.

 

[Vic 40]

Not all AM5 Ryzen, 5800x and up need much better coolers.

I agree I shouldn't have said ANY AM5 CPU, though it would still work. J

This thread is talk about AM4 anyway.

If the current cooler still works fine see i no need to upgrade. He just has to keep an eye on temps. If they suddenly creep up is it time to get a new one.

 

[CountMike]

This thread is talk about AM4 anyway.

If the current cooler still works fine see i no need to upgrade. He just has to keep an eye on temps. If they suddenly creep up is it time to get a new one.

Sory, I meant AM3 because 5800x is obviously AM4.