Advice on what to buy

kennedy4121

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APPROXIMATE PURCHASE DATE: 1 to 2 weeks

BUDGET RANGE: US$200 - 500

SYSTEM USAGE FROM MOST TO LEAST IMPORTANT: Gaming

PARTS NOT REQUIRED: Monitor, keyboard, mouse, case.
Can these be reused? Some are fairly new.

LG GH22LP20 22X IDE Lightscribe DVD+/-RW

Western Digital 160GB EIDE Hard Drive

Cool Master eXtreme Power Plus Series 500W ATX12V V2.3 Active PFC Power Supply

2- 512Mb DDR266 SDRAM 184-Pin DIMM

PREFERRED WEBSITE(S) FOR PARTS: New Egg, Amazon

PARTS PREFERENCES: Not Sure

OVERCLOCKING: Maybe
SLI OR CROSSFIRE: Maybe

MONITOR RESOLUTION: 1024x768, 1280x1024, 1440x900

ADDITIONAL COMMENTS: I am hoping I could reuse the above items and just get a new CPU, Motherboard and Video card. Then upgrade the memory a time goes by. Also would I need to purchase new software for this to run or could I use the software that came with my old computer? (Windows XP Home but on a Powerspec PC Disc) Thanks Larry
 

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You can use those parts too on this build...

Here is a CPU and Motherboard combo...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.190817

Some new RAM too...that RAM is too old
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227189

For graphics...not sure what kinda games you like to play, but this card can run a lot.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150322

The only problem i can see with this set is running SLI or Crossfire will not be possible :(

This is about...$200 or so for all 4 items.
 
You can't reuse the RAM because these days RAM needs 240 pins, not 184. The rest is OK.

OK, now we've seen what you can get for $200. A very capable machine for e-mail and FireFox. It will even play Solitaire and movies. Of course, when it comes to Crysis or similar games, that machine will get on its knees and start crying. Let's see what you can do with $500 now.

I was thinking of a GTX 275, but that requires at least a 550W PSU so it won't do.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130479

The AMD equivalent is HD 4890, and that one does work OK with a 500W PSU according to XFX:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150360

If you don't want the HAWX game that comes with this $240 XFX HD 4890, get this Sapphire version instead for $205 after rebate and promo code:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102830

Compare the speed this way: 9500GT has 32 stream processors. GTX 275 (which trades blows with HD 4890 in games) has 240 of them. That's like 7.5 times more raw power. I'm not saying the 9500GT is garbage. It's not. It's absolutely perfect for watching movies and office work. It's just not a gaming card.

All right, so MB + CPU + RAM now, for $295 or so in total... I'll do a little research and get back to you.



 
There's an AMD version too, with this $219 combo for example:

GIGABYTE GA-MA790X-UD4P AM3/AM2+/AM2 AMD 790X
AMD X3 720 Black Edition
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.190734

Compared to the E7400+GA-EP45-UD3L, it's a bit faster in games, it has a third core (useful if you ever compress a DVD, I guess), and the MB has more features (RAID, Crossfire).

Or you can get the GA-EP45-UD3L with an E8400, if you can stretch the total budget to $530 or so.
 

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What do you think about this combo? I changed the Video card


http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.190734

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231122

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150314


Is it worth the extra $ to go to a Quad 4 Like this?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.190732

or go with the Intel

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.190803

Also when I bought my older computer it came with 2 system discs with windows XP home on them and some stuff from the supplier (Power Spec). Can I use these or will they not work with a new build and I would also need to get new system software? I tried at one time to use them on an older HP computer and they would not reboot it so I am not sure if they will only work on a PowerSpec computer. Thanks Again Larry
 
I've recommended that X3 720+GA-MA790X-UD4P combo several times recently. It's enormous bang for the buck. Compared to E8400+GA-EP45-UD3P, it's $80 less, same MB features, very much the same in games, way better at compressing videos because it has a third core.

Good RAM.

Are you sure the 9800GTX+ would fit in your case? I don't know what case you have so I can't tell you if it fits.

This HD 4850 is a bit faster, $15 less, and smaller (so no worries about fitting).

HIS HD 4850, $95 after rebate, with free S.T.A.L.K.E.R: Clear Sky
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161259

It's also more future-proof because both GA-MA790X-UD4P and GA-EP45-UD3P support Crossfire, not SLI. That is, you can use two HD 4850 cards on those MBs, but not two 9800GTX+ cards.

If you like this idea just make sure your PSU can take 2 of these cards. Something like Corsair 650TX or at least 550VX should be fine, for example.

Your XP disk should still work, unless the PowerSpec people modified it. If it doesn't work, download Windows 7 RC for free, and then buy Windows 7 in February.

 

kennedy4121

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Thanks for all the great advice!! Here is what I purchased:


Gigabyte GZ-X5BPD ATX Mid Tower Case ( I found out mine was too small )
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811233039

AMD Phenom II X4 940 Deneg 3.0GHz Socket AM2+ 125W Quad Core Black Edition
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103471

Gigabyte GA-MA790X-UD4P Board
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128387

Sapphire Radeon HD 4850
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102824MB

OCZ Platinum 4GB 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR 1066 (PC2 8500)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227298

My main concern now is getting it up and running once I put it together. I will have to start searching the Forum for advice!
 

kennedy4121

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I started to put this together and am stuck. I have 2 IDE drives ,1 hard drive and 1 DVD drive. The Gigabyte board says it will support 2 Ide drives. The dvd drive is at the top of the case and the hard drive is supposed to be mounted way below it. The cable that comes with the MB is not made to reach both devices. Do I move the HD up and fiqure out a way to install it in the larger bay? Then is the HD the master drive and the DVD the slave or do I need to purchase a IDE controller card for the DVD Drive? Thanks
 

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I've had a similar issue before, I've put my hard drive in the 3.5" Floppy slot, so it was sticking outside my case... now I just got rid of the drive and bought a SATA one.
Try putting the hard drive in the highest 3.5" slot and the DVD on the lowest, do they reach? If not, you can:
A: Buy a longer cable. (3$)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812104050
B: Buy a SATA DVD (25$)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827136152
C: Buy a 3.5" enclosure to 5.25" so you can put you HD into the 5.25" Bay. (20$)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816215114
 

kennedy4121

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Ok i think I will try to move them closer. If so will the dvd drive work ok as the slave then? Since they are different types of drives do I need to change the jumper on the hard drive to master or wont it matter?
 

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It matters... you can choose to put both on CS (Cable Select) and then put your cable correctly or put HD on Master and DVD on Slave. Then you just press F12, F8, F2 or ESC (depending on your board) to enter Boot Menu whenever you want to boot from the DVD.