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ezzlar

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I am thinking about buying a new graphic card in the price range $200-250 and the cards that are available at that price in my market is the Gef 5600 Ultra and Radeon 9600 Pro. Which one should I go for?
Or should I go for another card?
I like silent cards....

Today I have a Radeon 9000PRO. I am content with Nvidia too.
 

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US dollars? buy online or in a retail store?

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Some US sites will allow purchases through Paypal International and will ship to international addresses. You'll have to do a search for sites that do. Try those that list on pricewatch.com


If I go by what is listed currently on Pricewatch.com I find that the best card for 200-250 US dollars is the 9700 non pro which can be had for around 220 bucks. Then the 9700 pro which can be had for around 280 bucks. But the 9700 Pro is hard to find (not backordered) online right now. Both of those cards will slay the 5600 Ultra. Just an FYI for you. I'd go with the 9700 non Pro...that's not a bad price for it.

If you must go with the 9600...you'll be short changing yourself...even with the Pro version...because they only have 4 pixel pipelines as opposed to 8 in the 9500 Pro, 9700, 9700 Pro, and 9800 Pro and non pro. This is a performance decrease. However, if it is in your pricerange...go for the 9600 Pro 128MB.

If you must go Nvidia, everyone will tell you to go for the Geforce4 Ti 4200 which is the best bang for your buck right now. I actually like the Ti 4200 cuz it does what it says it can do. The 5600 Ultra isn't too bad pricewise...its listed at around 200 bucks on pricewatch...but I wouldn't buy it...I think it's a hunk of Poo. Of course, I am biased toward ATI....if you want to know why...just check out some of my posts in this forum. Hope this helps


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I think most of us are biased towards ATi within last month or so (Especially since yesterday). Actually, I started to lose faith in Nvidia when the introduced the GeForce 4 MX as a budget chip. I have no problems with budget cards but I do have probs with budget card (or higher end for that matter) cards that are labled something they are not. The lable on the GeForce 4 MX is two chipsets off so its really a GeForce 2 in sheep's clothing that only offered the new Anti-Aliasing feature of the GeForce which it really couldn't use anyway. Who cares about vertex/pixel shaders? *Sarcasm*. If you really think about it, that's basically the same attitude Nvidia takes today with ALL of their cards.

Still, I thought te GeForce 2 MX was awesome for a budget chip back in its day.

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I agree, nvidias mx4 was complete crap thats why we can still get a gf2 mx 400 new. But i recon the new budget card is the fx5600, which is cheaper than many Ti4200 and is sporting quite reanonable 3.6ns ram. Its also nearly half the price of many 9600 pros and its image quality is only slightly behind. ATI s 9500 mix up and 9600 release have really benifited budget game performance by dropping the price of the nividia mid range so quickly. The graphics card market is really starting to open up.

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I could get a 9700 (non-pro) for about $270. The 9600 PRO is about $180 (powercolor). The 5600Ultra is about $240.
 

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If it was my decision id go the 9700 or a 9800 if i could find a reasonable price, if i was short of funds id find a fx5600 with 3.6ns ram, shoud get one for half the price of that ultra or pro and save for somthin in the future.

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What i suggest is neither 9600pro nor 9700,its name is 9600tx!U may have heard it,if u pay more attention to the OEM market.This special edition is truly not 9600 but 9700,and they are very cheap--less than 9600pro i think and surely performancing better than 9600pro(ps:9600tx with 8 pixel channels).
 

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your reference to the 5600nonultra


yes it may be cheaper... but it performs much, much worse than a TI4200. and TI4200s are dirt cheap

Dx9 compatibility? nvidias mid-low end cards are just plain too slow for it. they are good high end DX8 cards, but GF4TIs are even better at that job

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The reviews i've read have the 9600pro leading the 5600fx and the 5600 ultra leading them both, and not by a huge margin with the Ti 4200 giving them both a run for their money until you turn AA and AF on and then the TI4200 shits itself real bad. If your happy with last generation image quality the Ti4200 is a great card to have at a great price, but with these features turned on it is comparable to the fx5200.

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Rramjet, I think it would be really nice if Nvidia can get their cards up to speed without sacrificing Image Quality. I really hoped and wish this will happen, but it looks like not even a major driver upgrade can dig Nvidia out of this hole for the next few months. Its sad too, considering that the competition in the Graphics market is needed. For DX8 games the Fx5600 is a fine card, but their won't be that many more dx8 games.

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Yeah, I saw that one at Anandtech and was really surprised how well the Ti4200 was able to hold up.

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The R9600TX is NOT an R9600 (RV350) with 8 pipes, it's an R9500pro (R300) with TSOP memory crap for overclocking) and an OC'd core (running at 300mhz instead of the R9500Pro's 275mhz).

<b>Ezzlar</b>

Go with an R9700non-pro.

But between your two choices the R9600Pro would be the beter coice, although like I said, he R9700np is your best choice IMO.

But then again that's jut my 2 frames worth.


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