Advice request for selected gaming pc components

[Tetsu_X]

Hello fellas,

First of all, I am an amateur in the pc world but I can catch up fast as long as I do my research. My gaming goal is to play racing simulation games (or any type of vehicle simulation game) at 1080p, around or above 60FPS comfortably.

My initial budget ranged from $500 to $600 but after selecting better performing parts with more room for future upgrading and longevity -according to me who is new to this scene-, it rose above it. Anyhow, I plan on acquiring these parts little by little but I still do not want to spend, well, too much.

After much research, I've gathered these parts for my first gaming build. As of now, I'm looking for advice on which radiator to go for -performance over looks but there could be a slight tradeoff here- according to my overall part selection. Currently, I have selected the Celsius S24 but I do not know if it is overkill or just right. I selected this radiator after reviewing benchmarks and reviews. I want to keep my components cool for them to provide the best performance possible.

P.S: I'm going for a black with white/dark gray accent theme, thus I'm looking to replace the stock fans of the case for 140/120 mm RGB fans such as the NZXT Aer RGB 140. Yes, this here is purely aesthetics.
With that being said, I may have to pump the power supply up.

Below, I show my current selected parts from pcpartpicker. I welcome any input/advice on any of the selected parts of this build for my intended purpose.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Pentium G4560 3.5GHz Dual-Core Processor ($57.88 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: Fractal Design - Celsius S24 87.6 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($109.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: MSI - B250 PC MATE ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($81.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Kingston - FURY 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($67.48 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($107.88 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: MSI - Radeon RX 580 8GB ARMOR OC Video Card ($229.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Fractal Design - Define C with Window ATX Mid Tower Case ($82.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - S12II 520W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($44.89 @ Newegg)
Total: $783.08
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-05-14 10:51 EDT-0400

 

[Trafalgar747]

The G4560 is definitely the way to go. You absolutely do not need a $109 cpu cooler! The one that comes free with the processor itself is more than enough.

You definitely also need an HDD, no one can survive solely on an SSD of that size.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Pentium G4560 3.5GHz Dual-Core Processor ($57.88 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte - GA-B250M-DS3H Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($69.89 @ OutletPC)
Memory: Crucial - Ballistix Sport LT 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($59.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($107.88 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($48.88 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Gigabyte - Radeon RX 580 8GB Gaming 8G Video Card ($220.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: NZXT - S340 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA - B3 450W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $675.49
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-05-14 12:52 EDT-0400

This build should better within your budget.

If you can afford a bit more, id sway the ram for faster and 16gb of it.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Pentium G4560 3.5GHz Dual-Core Processor ($57.88 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte - GA-B250M-DS3H Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($69.89 @ OutletPC)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2800 Memory ($113.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($107.88 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($48.88 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Gigabyte - Radeon RX 580 8GB Gaming 8G Video Card ($220.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: NZXT - S340 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA - B3 450W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $729.49
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-05-14 12:54 EDT-0400

 

[Tetsu_X]

Hello Trafalgar,

Thank you for taking your time by providing your input and possible ideas.

You absolutely do not need a $109 cpu cooler! The one that comes free with the processor itself is more than enough.

I probably will have to agree with you in the fact that I do not need a $110cpu cooler; however, I aesthetically dislike the regular cpu coolers thus why I want to go for a radiator. Maybe, I could aim for a single fan radiator type?

You definitely also need an HDD, no one can survive solely on an SSD of that size.

Yes, indeed you are right. I was planning on acquiring one a bit later down the line.

Motherboard: Gigabyte - GA-B250M-DS3H Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($69.89 @ OutletPC)

Could you elaborate on the differences of this mobo and the msi b250 pc mate?

Memory: Crucial - Ballistix Sport LT 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($59.99 @ Amazon)

The reason I selected the Kingston - FURY 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 was due to its low profile form, latency, and color coordination. In comparison with the one you advice, as color coordination/preference goes, the Kingston Fury seems to have a slight advantage. Unfortunately, I couldnt find a benchmark of the two at 2400 speed.

What would be the benefits of having more ram capacity, Trafalgar?

Video Card: Gigabyte - Radeon RX 580 8GB Gaming 8G Video Card ($220.99 @ SuperBiiz)

I had selected the MSI ARMOR Edition do to purely aesthetics, and probably don't even need the OC one but it is not available in pcpartpicker.

Case: NZXT - S340 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($59.99 @ Newegg)

Although I do like the sleekness of the standard NZXT S340, it lacks a top dust filter; dust filters are a most for me. Although, since the top would be an exhaust fan, would it really need a dust filter? Hmmmm...
Yes, the Define C is more pricy but for ease of cable mangement, compact size, top and front dust filters included, etc, the Defince C is my to go in this one.

Power Supply: EVGA - B3 450W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($49.99 @ Amazon)

I've seen this power supply being recommended alot. I've seen in videos and also read it, that its always safe to go for an extra 150W on the power supply for future expansion of the build. That is why I chose the 520W, which with possible addition of rgb fans and maybe an extra strip of rgb here and there, and who knows what else, I will pump up the Wattage and look for a semi/full modular power supply.

This build should better within your budget.

Hey man, definitely is within a lower cost budget and it's very tempting!

Let me hear your thoughts on my inputs.

 

[Trafalgar747]

For the G4560, a stock cooler is more than enough, but I understand to most people, including myself, it doesn't look very appealing in terms of aesthetics. I usually don't recommend getting an aftermarket cooler on a budget build since I usually keep performance as the 1st priority and its price ratio. If you want to get an aftermarket cooler, I would recommend the Hyper 212 Evo and the Cryorig H7. The 212 Evo is a solid contender as for a value orientated cooler, it looks decent, and performs the best in terms of price/performance. You wouldn't need to worry about your temps in most scenarios (if you don't/cant overclock), and its not uncommon to even find people using it to overclock they're i5 6600k/7700k. Now for the Cryorig H7, it offers a bit more cooler temps, is much easier to install, and just look better (but i''ll leave that for you to decide). It costs a bit more over the 212 Evo, but doesn't really offer better value than the 212 Evo. You can check out how these cards look in YouTube videos to better understand what to expect aesthetically.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU Cooler: Cooler Master - Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($24.88 @ OutletPC)
Total: $24.88
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-05-15 08:44 EDT-0400

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU Cooler: CRYORIG - H7 49.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($34.89 @ OutletPC)
Total: $34.89
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-05-15 08:48 EDT-0400

Honestly the only difference between the two motherboards is that the MSI model has support for CrossFire. Crossfire basically allows you to run two compatible or identical graphics cards together to offer more performance. However, most games don't offer good enough support for crossfire to make it a value friendly option yet, it most cases, it would be better to just sell of your current card and but a newer more powerful one, rather than buying another of what you had before to work together. Other than that, there is no real difference. The only reason i chose the Gigabyte model over the MSI because its cheaper, and is well renowned board, and i tend to lean more on to Gigabyte compared to MSI, just because of better reviews, quality, and mostly past experiences.

For the RAM, id probably say the RAM you selected earlier was better. I like Kingston HyperX more, and it has a 15 CAS Latency rather than 16 on the Crucial kit. I chose it because i'd be pretty unlikely you will actually notice that difference at all, and i was trying to shave off whatever extra cost i could from the build, if you feel like going for it, by all means go for it. But if you could, i'd recommend you get the 16GB kit of GSkill ram i recommended. Although you really don't need anything more than 8GB ram for any game i know of, that extra 8 gigs is very useful for having things running in the background, whether it be chrome tabs or just more services running. And as time goes by, 16GB will soon become a standard for gaming, as the extra 8 gigs still improved fps marginally in today's games. The MSI and Gigabyte motherboard above both have 4 DIMM slots, so you could always buy the 2x4 now and get and another 2x4 in the future, but investing in faster speed (like the GSkill kit above) can improve fps even on a non overclock able board through XMP if you desire to do so, and if you even upgrade your PC in the future to maybe a high end overclocking build, you have the high end ram that you can use with it, without having to make do with the slower ram you bought before or just chucking the slower ram and buying a whole new kit.

For the graphics card, the MSI card you liked more is currently cheaper than the Gigabyte. It runs at the same speed out of the box and they both are great choices. Definitely go for the MSI if you like it more.

http://www.outletpc.com/ew3897-msi-rx-580-armor-4g-oc.html?utm_source=ew3897-msi-rx-580-armor-4g-oc&utm_medium=shopping%2Bengine&utm_campaign=pcpartpicker&utm_content=MSI%2B-%2BVideo%20Cards

As for the case, the S340 is a fan favorite of myself and many people, although it lacks a top dust filter (which i didn't know about, thanks for informing me) , it is the exhaust fan up there like you said, and although it isn't really needed much, a dust filter is nice to have. A PC case mostly boils down to aesthetic preference, definitely go for the Define C if you like it better. Although it is more expensive, it does seem like kind of an upgraded version of the S340.

If you prefer having a smaller tower, you may also want to look at the Micro ATX version of the Define C with window.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Case: Fractal Design - Define Mini C with Window MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($79.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $79.99
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-05-15 09:16 EDT-0400

As for the power supply, definitely only look at semi/full modular. Although your PC wont even take more than 400w in high load situations, its always nice to have some headroom for future expansion and overclocking.

If your looking for reliable high faulty future heard room, this would be the best option at a relatively affordable price.

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151119&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-PCPartPicker,%20LLC-_-na-_-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID=

If you have any more questions don't hesitate to ask.