[SOLVED] aerocool quantum v3 high cpu temp

[Bart2525]

Hi

My friend bought a whole new pc and we built it together. All is working but the case is a little bit small (the height).
Its the Aerocool quantum v3. It have 3 case fans: 2 in the front and 1 in the back (all stock installed in the case). There is also place for 2 on the top and 3 on the front.
He got a cpu: AMD Ryzen 7 5700X and a cpu cooler: AMD wreath stealth.
Also the following components:
Mobo: Asus Strix B550-F
GPU: Gigabyte Geforce OC Gaming 8GB 2.0
RAM: 32 GB ram
PSU: Gigabyte GP-P1000GM.

Now the problem is his cpu is getting 90°C while gaming, what could be the problem?
I think its the cpu cooler that doesnt cool enough, or is it the air flow in the case (not enough case coolers), the cpu cooler uses pre-applied cooling paste so I dont think that would be the problem.
Or is it just the problem of the height of the case?

 

[Phaaze88]

-No side panel ventilation present for the Wraith Stealth.
-Gpu is the closest 'cool air' intake to the Wraith Stealth.
-There is a reason AMD officially includes a boxed cooler for the 5600X and below Zen 5000 cpus.

Solution:
A)Tower air cooler 157mm or less.

B)AIO/CLC, within the following restrictions:
Front: 120/240/280mm Radiator (Optional)
(for 280mm, supports max length of 323mm and max thickness of 28mm)
Rear: 120mm Radiator (Optional) [Yeah, just skip this one. Front is the only real option here.]

 

[Karadjgne]

I'd suggest leaving the stock 140mm fans in front. That case is useless with 3x 120mm in front as the bottom fan is mostly blocked.

I'd also suggest a better cooler. Something like the beQuiet DarkRock TF2 would be great, only 134mm tall. Downdraft style. No issues with ram clearance.

Or

Scythe Fuma 2, 145mm tall twin tower, but can have heatsink clearance issues at the VRM's if they are giant tall.

 

[Bart2525]

-No side panel ventilation present for the Wraith Stealth.
-Gpu is the closest 'cool air' intake to the Wraith Stealth.
-There is a reason AMD officially includes a boxed cooler for the 5600X and below Zen 5000 cpus.

Solution:
A)Tower air cooler 157mm or less.

B)AIO/CLC, within the following restrictions:
Front: 120/240/280mm Radiator (Optional)
(for 280mm, supports max length of 323mm and max thickness of 28mm)
Rear: 120mm Radiator (Optional) [Yeah, just skip this one. Front is the only real option here.]

But there was no cpu cooler included in the cpu box. Also on the specs of amd.com they say thermal solution not included so I did buy a official cooler from amd that matches the correct TDP.

I have a build where the side panel also has no intake and system runs fine. Or do you mean something else?

Do you mean a cpu cooler less then 157mm?

While building the system we needed to take the back case fan out because it was in the way for placing the motherboard in the case but it could be that we placed the back case fan in the wrong direction. Can that be the problem that the hot air has no outtake and is staying in the case? Because normally a back case fan need to blast to outside, right?

Thanks for answering and sorry if I dont understand all the things you say haha

 

[Karadjgne]

I did buy a official cooler from amd that matches the correct TDP.

Exactly. The Stealth is a @ 120w cooler, which under normal circumstances is enough to maintain operational temps on a 65w cpu.

But. That's assuming normal operation. Gaming isn't 'normal' it's excessive. You are looking at the cpu pulling the full 65w, and thats if PBO isn't enabled (default 'Auto' is same as enabled) otherwise the cpu can pull as much as 95w under heavy loads.

If the cooler isn't fully installed correctly, if it's loose on the mount because you only got the first snap, not the second, you'll have lousy connection and temps will be high.

If running at auto voltages on some motherboards, they'll be very high, higher than necessary. You'll be seeing 1.4x V loads instead of 1.2x to 1.3x V all core voltages, which bumps up the temps. Try setting in bios, the vcore offset at -0.1, or -1 or however your bios does it.

 

[Bart2525]

Exactly. The Stealth is a @ 120w cooler, which under normal circumstances is enough to maintain operational temps on a 65w cpu.

But. That's assuming normal operation. Gaming isn't 'normal' it's excessive. You are looking at the cpu pulling the full 65w, and thats if PBO isn't enabled (default 'Auto' is same as enabled) otherwise the cpu can pull as much as 95w under heavy loads.

If the cooler isn't fully installed correctly, if it's loose on the mount because you only got the first snap, not the second, you'll have lousy connection and temps will be high.

If running at auto voltages on some motherboards, they'll be very high, higher than necessary. You'll be seeing 1.4x V loads instead of 1.2x to 1.3x V all core voltages, which bumps up the temps. Try setting in bios, the vcore offset at -0.1, or -1 or however your bios does it.

So if I understand what you mean is that the cpu cooler is not enough for gaming?

 

[Phaaze88]

But there was no cpu cooler included in the cpu box. Also on the specs of amd.com they say thermal solution not included so I did buy a official cooler from amd that matches the correct TDP.

Of course there wasn't. It's like that intentionally. 5600X and below Zen 5000 cpus come with Wraith Stealth.
3950X has none. AMD even recommends a liquid cooler on their site.
3700X - 3900X, Wraith Prism.
3600X and below, Wraith Stealth.

The Stealth and Prism aren't appropriate for the 5700X and above, that's why they didn't bother including one.

I have a build where the side panel also has no intake and system runs fine. Or do you mean something else?

Depends on the system components. The Wraith is a type of air cooler known as a downdraft.
The performance of downdrafts is hindered by solid side panels and open air gpus that dump their waste heat inside the PC - the higher that gpu's power use, the harder things will be on downdrafts - basically, cooling down on gpu 'sloppy seconds'.

Do you mean a cpu cooler less then 157mm?

Equal to, or less than 157mm. Aerocool's site states a max clearance of 158mm, but if you opt for a cooler with the same height, none of us can guarantee it would fit, so to be on the safe side, I go down 1mm.

 

[Bart2525]

Of course there wasn't. It's like that intentionally. 5600X and below Zen 5000 cpus come with Wraith Stealth.
3950X has none. AMD even recommends a liquid cooler on their site.
3700X - 3900X, Wraith Prism.
3600X and below, Wraith Stealth.

The Stealth and Prism aren't appropriate for the 5700X and above, that's why they didn't bother including one.


Depends on the system components. The Wraith is a type of air cooler known as a downdraft.
The performance of downdrafts is hindered by solid side panels and open air gpus that dump their waste heat inside the PC - the higher that gpu's power use, the harder things will be on downdrafts - basically, cooling down on gpu 'sloppy seconds'.


Equal to, or less than 157mm. Aerocool's site states a max clearance of 158mm, but if you opt for a cooler with the same height, none of us can guarantee it would fit, so to be on the safe side, I go down 1mm.

Okay thanks alot men! Now I know why my cpu is so hot and also why cpu cooler isnt delivered with ryzen 7 5x Series.

 

[Bart2525]

Of course there wasn't. It's like that intentionally. 5600X and below Zen 5000 cpus come with Wraith Stealth.
3950X has none. AMD even recommends a liquid cooler on their site.
3700X - 3900X, Wraith Prism.
3600X and below, Wraith Stealth.

The Stealth and Prism aren't appropriate for the 5700X and above, that's why they didn't bother including one.


Depends on the system components. The Wraith is a type of air cooler known as a downdraft.
The performance of downdrafts is hindered by solid side panels and open air gpus that dump their waste heat inside the PC - the higher that gpu's power use, the harder things will be on downdrafts - basically, cooling down on gpu 'sloppy seconds'.


Equal to, or less than 157mm. Aerocool's site states a max clearance of 158mm, but if you opt for a cooler with the same height, none of us can guarantee it would fit, so to be on the safe side, I go down 1mm.

Will the Bequit shadow rock 3 be enough for the cpu amd ryzen 7 7500X? It has 190 TDP.

 

[Phaaze88]

Will the Bequit shadow rock 3 be enough for the cpu amd ryzen 7 7500X?

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