[SOLVED] After CPU upgrade pc slows down.

[DzonnyBravo]

Hi,



I recently upgrade new CPU I7 4790 K, i upgraded this from i5 4440,

MY biggest reason was Call OF Duty right, so i had 60 fps on low settings, i thgought i can increase something wit new CPU, however when i swap cpus, i even have less fps/spikes with new I7 4790k.



Win 10,

16Gb rm,

Motherboard MS-7817,

Thanks for any help.

 

[XxDarkMario20xX]

Check your temps and go into task manager and see what speeds your cpu is running at?

 

[DzonnyBravo]

CPU

Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4790K CPU @ 4.00GHz

Base speed: 4.00 GHz
Sockets: 1
Cores: 4
Logical processors: 8
Virtualisation: Enabled
L1 cache: 256 KB
L2 cache: 1.0 MB
L3 cache: 8.0 MB

Utilisation 55%
Speed 3.62 GHz
Up time 0:00:32:45
Processes 155
Threads 2210
Handles 62770

 

[sizzling]

Use a program like MSIAfterburner to monitor cpu temperature and usages while in game. When monitoring cpu usage look at all cores/threads and see if any are close to 100%. Also check to see if cpu speed (GHz) drops.

Other things to do. Make sure your BIOS is up to date. If it is then try clearing the CMOS and allowing the motherboard to reconfigure itself.

 

[DzonnyBravo]

Ty,
appreciate your time. !

 

[geofelt]

If your game were cpu limited, you should have seen an increase in performance.
OTOH, if your game were graphics limited you should have seen no difference.
What is the make/model of your graphics card?

Regardless you should never see a decrease in performance.
Something is wrong.
Are you still using the stock intel cooler that came with the i5-4440?

If so, I suspect that you did not mount the cooler well.
The processor will monitor it's temperature and will slow down or turn off if it detects a dangerous temperature.
That is around 100c.

----------------how to mount the stock Intel cooler--------------

The stock Intel cooler can be tricky to install.
A poor installation will result in higher cpu temperatures.
If properly mounted, you should expect temperatures at idle to be 10-15c. over ambient.

To mount the Intel stock cooler properly, place the motherboard on top of the foam or cardboard backing that was packed with the motherboard.
The stock cooler will come with paste pre applied, it looks like three grey strips.
The 4 push pins should come in the proper position for installation, that is with the pins rotated in the opposite direction of the arrow,(clockwise)
and pulled up as far as they can go.
Take the time to play with the pushpin mechanism until you know how they work.

Orient the 4 pins so that they are exactly over the motherboard holes.
If one is out of place, you will damage the pins which are delicate.
Push down on a DIAGONAL pair of pins at the same time. Then the other pair.

When you push down on the top black pins, it expands the white plastic pins to fix the cooler in place.

If you do them one at a time, you will not get the cooler on straight.
Lastly, look at the back of the motherboard to verify that all 4 pins are equally through the motherboard, and that the cooler is on firmly.
This last step must be done, which is why the motherboard should be out of the case to do the job. Or you need a case with a opening that lets you see the pins.
It is possible to mount the cooler with the motherboard mounted in the case, but you can then never be certain that the push pins are inserted properly
unless you can verify that the pins are through the motherboard and locked.

If you should need to remove the cooler, turn the pins counter clockwise to unlock them.
You will need to clean off the old paste and reapply new if you ever take the cooler off.
Clean off old paste with alcohol and a lint free paper like a coffee filter.
Apply new paste sparingly. A small rice sized drop in the center will spread our under heat and pressure.
Too much paste is bad, it will act as an insulator.
It is hard to use too little.

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------

 

[DzonnyBravo]

If your game were cpu limited, you should have seen an increase in performance.
OTOH, if your game were graphics limited you should have seen no difference.
What is the make/model of your graphics card?

Regardless you should never see a decrease in performance.
Something is wrong.
Are you still using the stock intel cooler that came with the i5-4440?

If so, I suspect that you did not mount the cooler well.
The processor will monitor it's temperature and will slow down or turn off if it detects a dangerous temperature.
That is around 100c.

----------------how to mount the stock Intel cooler--------------

The stock Intel cooler can be tricky to install.
A poor installation will result in higher cpu temperatures.
If properly mounted, you should expect temperatures at idle to be 10-15c. over ambient.

To mount the Intel stock cooler properly, place the motherboard on top of the foam or cardboard backing that was packed with the motherboard.
The stock cooler will come with paste pre applied, it looks like three grey strips.
The 4 push pins should come in the proper position for installation, that is with the pins rotated in the opposite direction of the arrow,(clockwise)
and pulled up as far as they can go.
Take the time to play with the pushpin mechanism until you know how they work.

Orient the 4 pins so that they are exactly over the motherboard holes.
If one is out of place, you will damage the pins which are delicate.
Push down on a DIAGONAL pair of pins at the same time. Then the other pair.

When you push down on the top black pins, it expands the white plastic pins to fix the cooler in place.

If you do them one at a time, you will not get the cooler on straight.
Lastly, look at the back of the motherboard to verify that all 4 pins are equally through the motherboard, and that the cooler is on firmly.
This last step must be done, which is why the motherboard should be out of the case to do the job. Or you need a case with a opening that lets you see the pins.
It is possible to mount the cooler with the motherboard mounted in the case, but you can then never be certain that the push pins are inserted properly
unless you can verify that the pins are through the motherboard and locked.

If you should need to remove the cooler, turn the pins counter clockwise to unlock them.
You will need to clean off the old paste and reapply new if you ever take the cooler off.
Clean off old paste with alcohol and a lint free paper like a coffee filter.
Apply new paste sparingly. A small rice sized drop in the center will spread our under heat and pressure.
Too much paste is bad, it will act as an insulator.
It is hard to use too little.

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------

I think that was the problem i mount my CPU cooler wrong, because when i replaced second time it start work better,
anyway as you say i wanted to improve fps in Warzone, unfortunately swamping the cpu's is not the best option,
im using geforce asus 1050 ti gpu, i might need to replace this one aswell.

 

[DzonnyBravo]

If your game were cpu limited, you should have seen an increase in performance.
OTOH, if your game were graphics limited you should have seen no difference.
What is the make/model of your graphics card?

Regardless you should never see a decrease in performance.
Something is wrong.
Are you still using the stock intel cooler that came with the i5-4440?

If so, I suspect that you did not mount the cooler well.
The processor will monitor it's temperature and will slow down or turn off if it detects a dangerous temperature.
That is around 100c.

----------------how to mount the stock Intel cooler--------------

The stock Intel cooler can be tricky to install.
A poor installation will result in higher cpu temperatures.
If properly mounted, you should expect temperatures at idle to be 10-15c. over ambient.

To mount the Intel stock cooler properly, place the motherboard on top of the foam or cardboard backing that was packed with the motherboard.
The stock cooler will come with paste pre applied, it looks like three grey strips.
The 4 push pins should come in the proper position for installation, that is with the pins rotated in the opposite direction of the arrow,(clockwise)
and pulled up as far as they can go.
Take the time to play with the pushpin mechanism until you know how they work.

Orient the 4 pins so that they are exactly over the motherboard holes.
If one is out of place, you will damage the pins which are delicate.
Push down on a DIAGONAL pair of pins at the same time. Then the other pair.

When you push down on the top black pins, it expands the white plastic pins to fix the cooler in place.

If you do them one at a time, you will not get the cooler on straight.
Lastly, look at the back of the motherboard to verify that all 4 pins are equally through the motherboard, and that the cooler is on firmly.
This last step must be done, which is why the motherboard should be out of the case to do the job. Or you need a case with a opening that lets you see the pins.
It is possible to mount the cooler with the motherboard mounted in the case, but you can then never be certain that the push pins are inserted properly
unless you can verify that the pins are through the motherboard and locked.

If you should need to remove the cooler, turn the pins counter clockwise to unlock them.
You will need to clean off the old paste and reapply new if you ever take the cooler off.
Clean off old paste with alcohol and a lint free paper like a coffee filter.
Apply new paste sparingly. A small rice sized drop in the center will spread our under heat and pressure.
Too much paste is bad, it will act as an insulator.
It is hard to use too little.

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------

By the way, i can see you GPU Master,
which would you recommend for me ? to get best benefit and increase fps.

 

[geofelt]

What is the make/model of your graphics card?
What is the make/model of your power supply?
What is the make/model of your motherboard. cpu-Z will tell you.
What is your budget, and do you have a link as to where you might buy?
What is the make/model of your case?
Is windows C drive a Hard drive or is ti a ssd. How big is it and how full is it?

 

[DzonnyBravo]

What is the make/model of your graphics card?
What is the make/model of your power supply?
What is the make/model of your motherboard. cpu-Z will tell you.
What is your budget, and do you have a link as to where you might buy?
What is the make/model of your case?
Is windows C drive a Hard drive or is ti a ssd. How big is it and how full is it?

1. Nvidia Geforce Asus 1050 TI 4gb,
2. I'm not sure to be honest, let's say it's not the best not the worst - medium quality,
3. MSI H81M-P33,
   [*]Around 100-300, i prefer Amazon/Ebay,

4.Simply case, it's enough space for 1050,
5. 520 gb/ 120 / gb SSD Kingston, - still have 1 t, they pretty empty,

Thanks

 

[geofelt]

The reason I asked the questions:
1. If you are going to upgrade a graphics card, I now know it had be better than a GTX1050ti. Something in the GTX1660 class.

2. A GTX1050ti will run on even a junky 300w psu.
If you are going to upgrade your graphics card, say for instance to a GTX1660 or better, you need something at least 450w, probably 550w.
Here is a handy chart to size the psu you need:
http://www.realhardtechx.com/index_archivos/Page362.htm
The make/model tells me if you have a quality unit.
The name of the psu and it's power will be on a required data plate on the psu itself.
Do NOT ever buy a cheap quality psu.
A cheap PSU will be made of substandard components. It will not have safety and overload protections.
The danger is if it fails under load, it can destroy anything it is connected to.
It will deliver advertised power only at room temperatures, not at higher temperatures found when installed in a case.
The wattage will be delivered on the 3 and 5v rails, not on the 12v rails where modern parts
like the CPU and Graphics cards need it. What power is delivered may fluctuate and cause instability
issues that are hard to diagnose.
The fan will need to spin up higher to cool it, making it noisy.
A cheap PSU can become very expensive.

Do not buy one.
Here is one list of psu quality:

PSU Tier List [OLD]

Credit to @Starelementpokeand @Energycore for helping out with this long-awaited refresh of the old PSU tier list by Aniallation (who previously went several months without logging in), leaving the old list in need of help. This is simply an update of the list that was flawed in creation by the P...

linustechtips.com

It is not wrong to buy an extra strong psu, it will only use the power demanded of it, regardless of the max capability.

3. Your motherboard tells me that with a H81 chipset, you can not overclock your 4790K for added capability.
You now have the strongest processor available for your motherboard.

Your budget should allow you to buy a card as good as a GTX1660ti.
4. Some cases are extra small and will not allow a full sized graphics card or power supply.
Some cases do not have sufficient air intake capability to cool higher end parts adequately.
Your cpu cooler needs an adequate source of fresh air to do it's job.
If your case has at least two front 120mm intake fans you are ok.
If the dimensions of your power supply at the rear are 86mm x 150mm, you have a standard ATX psu.

5. A ssd for your C drive is wonderful, but 120gb is too small.
When the drive starts to fill up past 90% it will slow down and wear out faster. If your games are on the HDD, they will not run as well as if on a ssd.
That is probably not all that important for fps performance.
But some tasks such as level loads or texture loading will take longer.

To get an idea if a faster graphics card would help, try this test:
Run YOUR games, but lower your resolution and eye candy.
If your FPS increases, it indicates that your cpu is strong enough to drive a better graphics configuration.
If your FPS stays the same, you are likely more cpu limited.

 

[DzonnyBravo]

The reason I asked the questions:
1. If you are going to upgrade a graphics card, I now know it had be better than a GTX1050ti. Something in the GTX1660 class.

2. A GTX1050ti will run on even a junky 300w psu.
If you are going to upgrade your graphics card, say for instance to a GTX1660 or better, you need something at least 450w, probably 550w.
Here is a handy chart to size the psu you need:
http://www.realhardtechx.com/index_archivos/Page362.htm
The make/model tells me if you have a quality unit.
The name of the psu and it's power will be on a required data plate on the psu itself.
Do NOT ever buy a cheap quality psu.
A cheap PSU will be made of substandard components. It will not have safety and overload protections.
The danger is if it fails under load, it can destroy anything it is connected to.
It will deliver advertised power only at room temperatures, not at higher temperatures found when installed in a case.
The wattage will be delivered on the 3 and 5v rails, not on the 12v rails where modern parts
like the CPU and Graphics cards need it. What power is delivered may fluctuate and cause instability
issues that are hard to diagnose.
The fan will need to spin up higher to cool it, making it noisy.
A cheap PSU can become very expensive.

Do not buy one.
Here is one list of psu quality:

PSU Tier List [OLD]

Credit to @Starelementpokeand @Energycore for helping out with this long-awaited refresh of the old PSU tier list by Aniallation (who previously went several months without logging in), leaving the old list in need of help. This is simply an update of the list that was flawed in creation by the P...

linustechtips.com

It is not wrong to buy an extra strong psu, it will only use the power demanded of it, regardless of the max capability.

3. Your motherboard tells me that with a H81 chipset, you can not overclock your 4790K for added capability.
You now have the strongest processor available for your motherboard.

Your budget should allow you to buy a card as good as a GTX1660ti.
4. Some cases are extra small and will not allow a full sized graphics card or power supply.
Some cases do not have sufficient air intake capability to cool higher end parts adequately.
Your cpu cooler needs an adequate source of fresh air to do it's job.
If your case has at least two front 120mm intake fans you are ok.
If the dimensions of your power supply at the rear are 86mm x 150mm, you have a standard ATX psu.

5. A ssd for your C drive is wonderful, but 120gb is too small.
When the drive starts to fill up past 90% it will slow down and wear out faster. If your games are on the HDD, they will not run as well as if on a ssd.
That is probably not all that important for fps performance.
But some tasks such as level loads or texture loading will take longer.

To get an idea if a faster graphics card would help, try this test:
Run YOUR games, but lower your resolution and eye candy.
If your FPS increases, it indicates that your cpu is strong enough to drive a better graphics configuration.
If your FPS stays the same, you are likely more cpu limited.

Thanks for your help, wish you good luck buddy !