Build Advice After years of use I am now in need of a new rig

[Tomos Woolley]

I have been quiet for a long time on the forums and keeping my self relatively up-to-date with current faux pas of computing but I am Now in some need of help. I am about to start a whole new chapter in my life I am off to uni at the ripe old age of 40 and I need to sort my self out with a computer for my engineering degree its a 6 year course so I want it to last the whole duration with as little tinkering and messing with

I want all new parts and don't want to break up my old rig as that's going to be kept as my entertainment and relaxation

I have about 2k to spend on it please help me out

 

[Why_Me]

I have been quiet for a long time on the forums and keeping my self relatively up-to-date with current faux pas of computing but I am Now in some need of help. I am about to start a whole new chapter in my life I am off to uni at the ripe old age of 40 and I need to sort my self out with a computer for my engineering degree its a 6 year course so I want it to last the whole duration with as little tinkering and messing with

I want all new parts and don't want to break up my old rig as that's going to be kept as my entertainment and relaxation

I have about 2k to spend on it please help me out

Will there be any gaming involved and you are located in the US or UK I'm guessing?

 

[Why_Me]

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: *Intel Core i7-13700 2.1 GHz 16-Core Processor ($319.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: *ID-COOLING FROZN A620 BLACK 78.25 CFM CPU Cooler ($39.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: *MSI B760 GAMING PLUS WIFI ATX LGA1700 Motherboard ($147.96 @ Amazon)
Memory: *Silicon Power XPOWER Zenith Gaming 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory ($169.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: *Acer Predator GM7000 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($136.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: *MSI VENTUS 2X BLACK OC GeForce RTX 4060 Ti 16 GB Video Card ($429.99 @ MSI)
Case: *Montech AIR 903 BASE ATX Mid Tower Case ($65.00 @ B&H)
Power Supply: *MSI MAG A750GL PCIE5 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($87.99 @ Amazon)
Operating System: *Microsoft Windows 11 Home OEM - DVD 64-bit ($119.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $1517.89
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-08-08 03:05 EDT-0400

 

[Tomos Woolley]

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: *Intel Core i7-13700 2.1 GHz 16-Core Processor ($319.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: *ID-COOLING FROZN A620 BLACK 78.25 CFM CPU Cooler ($39.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: *MSI B760 GAMING PLUS WIFI ATX LGA1700 Motherboard ($147.96 @ Amazon)
Memory: *Silicon Power XPOWER Zenith Gaming 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory ($169.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: *Acer Predator GM7000 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($136.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: *MSI VENTUS 2X BLACK OC GeForce RTX 4060 Ti 16 GB Video Card ($429.99 @ MSI)
Case: *Montech AIR 903 BASE ATX Mid Tower Case ($65.00 @ B&H)
Power Supply: *MSI MAG A750GL PCIE5 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($87.99 @ Amazon)
Operating System: *Microsoft Windows 11 Home OEM - DVD 64-bit ($119.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $1517.89
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-08-08 03:05 EDT-0400

Will there be any gaming involved and you are located in the US or UK I'm guessing?

UK and no gaming but it will need a beefy graphics card for rendering and blender

 

[Tomos Woolley]

Are Intel's 13th and 14th gen CPU all fix I heard about degradation and instability

 

[Why_Me]

Are Intel's 13th and 14th gen CPU all fix I heard about degradation and instability

The issue was with the 13 and 14 gen i9's.

 

[Tomos Woolley]

I believed it was more widespread than just i9 if that's the case that's brilliant

 

[Why_Me]

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: *Intel Core i7-13700K 3.4 GHz 16-Core Processor (£318.63 @ Amazon UK)
CPU Cooler: *ID-COOLING FX360 PRO 82.5 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler (£59.99 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: *MSI MAG Z790 TOMAHAWK WIFI ATX LGA1700 Motherboard (£219.00 @ Computer Orbit)
Memory: *Kingston FURY Beast 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory (£179.73 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: *Samsung 980 Pro 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive (£147.50 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: *Gigabyte WINDFORCE OC GeForce RTX 4070 Ti SUPER 16 GB Video Card (£769.98 @ Amazon UK)
Case: *Montech AIR 903 BASE ATX Mid Tower Case (£49.98 @ Scan.co.uk)
Power Supply: *MSI MAG A850GL PCIE5 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (£89.00 @ Computer Orbit)
Operating System: *Microsoft Windows 11 Home Retail - Download 64-bit (£101.99 @ Senetic)
Total: £1935.80
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-08-08 08:40 BST+0100

 

[ilukey77]

I believed it was more widespread than just i9 if that's the case that's brilliant

same ive read its across the whole range 14600 and up just the i9s faired worse than lower lvl CPU's ..

at this point id stick with a 7800x3d or if its not in the budget 7700 non x and spend more on a decent GPU something 12gb or more steer clear of any 8gb crap !!

 

[Tomos Woolley]

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 7900X3D 4.4 GHz 12-Core Processor (£369.98 @ Scan.co.uk)
CPU Cooler: ARCTIC Liquid Freezer III 56.3 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler (£66.98 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: ASRock X670E Steel Legend ATX AM5 Motherboard (£263.67 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: Patriot Viper Venom 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-7200 CL34 Memory (£107.99 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: Patriot Viper Venom 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-7200 CL34 Memory (£107.99 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Patriot P300 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive (£94.99 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Seagate EXOS Enterprise 4 TB 3.5" 7200 RPM Internal Hard Drive (£87.73 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: PowerColor Hellhound Radeon RX 7900 XT 20 GB Video Card (£657.98 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Case: MagniumGear NEO QUBE 2 ATX Mid Tower Case (£79.98 @ Amazon UK)
Power Supply: be quiet! Pure Power 12 M 1000 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (£144.01 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £1981.30
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-08-08 11:37 BST+0100


this is what i came up with again i havent looked really into high end parts before. i have never had this chance to go all out on a pc before. i have always spent a lot more time looking at low budget and getting the most for the least so i kind of want it to be special as its going to be my hub for 6 years of learning

 

[Zerk2012]

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 7900X3D 4.4 GHz 12-Core Processor (£369.98 @ Scan.co.uk)
CPU Cooler: ARCTIC Liquid Freezer III 56.3 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler (£66.98 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: ASRock X670E Steel Legend ATX AM5 Motherboard (£263.67 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: Patriot Viper Venom 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-7200 CL34 Memory (£107.99 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: Patriot Viper Venom 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-7200 CL34 Memory (£107.99 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Patriot P300 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive (£94.99 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Seagate EXOS Enterprise 4 TB 3.5" 7200 RPM Internal Hard Drive (£87.73 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: PowerColor Hellhound Radeon RX 7900 XT 20 GB Video Card (£657.98 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Case: MagniumGear NEO QUBE 2 ATX Mid Tower Case (£79.98 @ Amazon UK)
Power Supply: be quiet! Pure Power 12 M 1000 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (£144.01 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £1981.30
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-08-08 11:37 BST+0100


this is what i came up with again i havent looked really into high end parts before. i have never had this chance to go all out on a pc before. i have always spent a lot more time looking at low budget and getting the most for the least so i kind of want it to be special as its going to be my hub for 6 years of learning

Don't buy 2 separate kits of memory if you need 64GB then buy a 64GB kit. Use the motherboard's QVL to pick the memory.

 

[Why_Me]

same ive read its across the whole range 14600 and up just the i9s faired worse than lower lvl CPU's ..

at this point id stick with a 7800x3d or if its not in the budget 7700 non x and spend more on a decent GPU something 12gb or more steer clear of any 8gb crap !!

You would actually recommend that cpu for Blender eh. Explain please.

 

[ilukey77]

You would actually recommend that cpu for Blender eh. Explain please.

And you recommend a 13700k a few posts back hmm maybe you can explain that ?

been living under a rock ??

so a 7900 non x would be far better than intel's rubbish

 

[Eximo]

For Intel it is all 13th and 14th gen 65W and up desktop CPUs. Upcoming microcode updates should fix the root problem, so buying an Intel CPU right now is fairly safe. It was a degradation problem, a new CPU should be fine. But you must make sure to update the BIOS regularly over the next few months in case they discover new issues.

i9 were just the first to show symptoms because they use that much more power. Unlocked i7 were next. But many outlets are reporting issues with regular 13700 and 14700 chips. Not much reported on i5s, but presumably the failure rate is higher than normal.

AMD would be the safer option. 9700X looks like an efficient chip if you leave PBO off. Don't forget some external storage, backup your work regularly, keep at least three copies (I went with a faster option, but you could also go for bulk) You might also want a decent sized USB flash drive for transporting files and to act as that third backup.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 9700X 3.8 GHz 8-Core Processor ($359.00 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Phantom Spirit EVO 69 CFM CPU Cooler ($49.90 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte B650 EAGLE AX ATX AM5 Motherboard ($159.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Flare X5 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory ($184.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital WD_Black SN850X 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($144.88 @ Amazon)
Video Card: PNY VERTO OC GeForce RTX 4070 SUPER 12 GB Video Card ($579.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Corsair 4000D Airflow ATX Mid Tower Case ($92.15 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: SeaSonic FOCUS GX-1000 ATX 3.0 1000 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($139.99 @ Newegg)
External Storage: Crucial X10 Pro 2 TB External SSD ($192.19 @ Amazon)
Total: $1903.08
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-08-08 09:25 EDT-0400

 

[Lucky_SLS]

mATX build for potability:

With the ryzen 9700X, the price should still be within £2k

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 9700X 3.8 GHz 8-Core Processor
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler (£37.00 @ Computer Orbit)
Motherboard: Gigabyte B650M AORUS ELITE AX Micro ATX AM5 Motherboard (£162.99 @ CCL Computers)
Memory: G.Skill Flare X5 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory (£196.26 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Kingston KC3000 2.048 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive (£123.18 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: MSI RTX 4070 Ti SUPER 16G VENTUS 3X BLACK OC GeForce RTX 4070 Ti SUPER 16 GB Video Card (£778.52 @ Amazon UK)
Case: Lian Li A3-mATX MicroATX Mini Tower Case (£69.00 @ Computer Orbit)
Power Supply: MSI MPG A850G PCIE5 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (£105.46 @ Scan.co.uk)
Case Fan: ARCTIC P12 Slim PWM PST 42.1 CFM 120 mm Fans 3-Pack (£20.47 @ Scan.co.uk)
Total: £1492.88
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-08-08 15:27 BST+0100

 

[artk2219]

Honestly i cant in good conscience recommend Intel's 13th and 14th gen CPU's right now. Yes there is a bios update that was just released, and yes the chances of you having an issue are low. But the fact is, the chance is there, and until that bios patch has been vetted out for a few months, I wouldn't be able to recommend an Intel CPU. It is a shame because for production work in general they were excellent CPU's.

PCPartPicker Part List
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/mscjmD

Type|Item|Price
:----|:----|:----
**CPU** | [AMD Ryzen 9 7950X 4.5 GHz 16-Core Processor](https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/22XJ7P/amd-ryzen-9-7950x-45-ghz-16-core-processor-100-100000514wof) | £448.97 @ Amazon UK
**CPU Cooler** | [Thermalright Phantom Spirit EVO 69 CFM CPU Cooler](https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/BRMMnQ/thermalright-phantom-spirit-evo-69-cfm-cpu-cooler-phantom-spirit-120-evo) | £44.90 @ Amazon UK
**Motherboard** | [Gigabyte B650 EAGLE AX ATX AM5 Motherboard](https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/CvcgXL/gigabyte-b650-eagle-ax-atx-am5-motherboard-b650-eagle-ax) | £139.00 @ Computer Orbit
**Memory** | [Corsair Vengeance 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory](https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/8ZQKHx/corsair-vengeance-64-gb-2-x-32-gb-ddr5-6000-cl30-memory-cmk64gx5m2b6000c30) | £209.99 @ Corsair UK
**Storage** | [Crucial P3 Plus 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive](https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/yGZ9TW/crucial-p3-plus-2-tb-m2-2280-nvme-solid-state-drive-ct2000p3pssd8) | £111.38 @ Scan.co.uk
**Video Card** | [PowerColor Fighter OC Radeon RX 7900 GRE 16 GB Video Card](https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/QgcgXL/powercolor-fighter-oc-radeon-rx-7900-gre-16-gb-video-card-rx-7900-gre-16g-foc) | £517.00 @ MoreCoCo
**Case** | [Montech AIR 903 BASE ATX Mid Tower Case](https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/kKcgXL/montech-air-903-base-atx-mid-tower-case-air-903-base-b) | £49.98 @ Scan.co.uk
**Power Supply** | [SeaSonic FOCUS GX-1000 ATX 3.0 1000 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply](https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/W2zXsY/seasonic-focus-gx-1000-atx-30-1000-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-atx3-focus-gx-1000) | £140.16 @ Amazon UK
**External Storage** | [Crucial X10 Pro 2 TB External SSD](https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/JnyH99/crucial-x10-pro-2-tb-external-ssd-ct2000x10prossd902) |-
| *Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts* |
| **Total** | **£1661.38**
| Generated by [PCPartPicker](https://pcpartpicker.com) 2024-08-08 18:26 BST+0100 |

 

[Why_Me]

And you recommend a 13700k a few posts back hmm maybe you can explain that ?

been living under a rock ??

so a 7900 non x would be far better than intel's rubbish

You recommended a 7800x3D for Blender.